Xatalos just go and look at the possible combinations.
AMG cant be mafia with anyone but Koshi and based on today that doesnt make any sense. Someone can argue Damdred but that doesnt make any sense based on D2.

raynpelikoneet

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March 27 2017 17:04 GMT

#3031

On March 28 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:

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From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred.

Koshi this is baaaaaadddddd.

Damdred was the first one to scumread Eden. Eden voted for Damdred on D1.

The read on disformation is "if calix is scum then disfo is town". Trrrible read when if Calix is town then he can again say whatever he wants on disfo.

How about you guys read what people said on Eden and not orherwise? Double-bus theory is super dumb imo.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 17:35 GMT

#3033

So like AMG + anyone but Koshi is like:
"Hey let me bus Eden and lets have you super hard-defend him so i then you have to call you scum later for that" (which is also what happened...

Suuuper duuuper dumb.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 17:35 GMT

#3034

I have to call you scum*

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 19:43 GMT

#3082

disformation / Tumblewood / (Koshi)

LEt me gather my thoughts real quick i just got home.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 19:44 GMT

#3083

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 19:57 GMT

#3095

First of all who are town:

Xatalos basically because of Darthfoley getting roleblocked N2. That's something that doesn't go with his scumplay (aka not roleblocking me). No no no never.

Damdred. Called Eden mafia on D1. Eden voted for Damdred when there was actually a chance of him getting lynched. The double-bus theory is very very dumb especially since Damdred would be a scum PR and Eden is not. If there was a bus between them it would be Eden being bussed. 100%.

AMG. There is no fucking way AMG comes to D2 and yells that Eden is town. No way, especially since he can't give an answer to "why ritoky died?". I already talked about this, it's absolutely 0% chance of working, and like 80% chance of you getting scumread after Eden flip. The only reason for AMG's behaviour is that he is town and genuinely thought Eden is town for whatever reason. It jsut doesn't make sense any other way.. Then there is this voting thing on D4. IF we assume Damdred is town (which is like fucking 99.9% certain), AMG cannot be mafia because everyone and their mother wanted to kill him just a while ago. Mafia wanting to lynch mafia on this day is super duper dumb. They COULD want to lynch their roleblocker here for end-game town credit but that would mean they had shot me instead of Darthfoley last night (because who the fuck would care about his check - even if it was on the RB since the bus play has to be planned already). So yeah, he is town.

Koshi. I have a very hard time beliving Koshi actually thinks AMG + Damdred is the mafia team. Although Koshi thinks i am mafia in all of the games ever so i don't even know what Koshi can think.... Makes perfect sense if he is scum with disformation, especially after that dumb read from Eden's filter where Eden basically gave "if this then that" read on disformation. But then again i don't know why he wouldn't vote for Eden D2? Maybe they wanted +1 on Xatalos, who the hell knows, i don't.

Tumblewood. His voting record is absolutely horrible and his play is filled with heuristics that don't really have anything to do with actual reads in my opinion. Like "this and this guy are the same alignment because..." is a good example. I first looked this at as a townie thing but meehhh... It makes sense either way, if he is mafia with disformation (defending scumbuddy without actually defending him) or if not (being "right" in "this is TvT fight").

disformation. His play can be summarized with one word. Coasting. There is pretty much nothing else i can say about it. No hard stances, no pushing anything, not really even arguing anything, throughout whole game. A big list of reads after a big lig list of reads after [continue].... and never getting anywhere. I am quite sure he is mafia.

disformation - Tumblewood (60%)
disformation - Koshi (30%)
Tumblewood - Koshi (10%)

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 20:02 GMT

#3098

On March 28 2017 05:01 Koshi wrote:

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HE WAS BUSSED YOU MORON

HE WASN'T ON D!. BECAUSE DAMDRED'S BUS WOULD HAVE THEN BEEN "WOE KILL ME BECAUSE RAYN DOESN'T LISTEN TO ME AND MY READS BOOHOOO..."

That's not a fucking bus.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 20:07 GMT

#3102

On March 28 2017 05:04 Koshi wrote:

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I don't even understand what you are saying here and I am pretty sure I don't want to know.

That is exactly what Damdred did on D1. Called Eden mafia and when people voted for Malongo and him instead he wanted to kill himself. What a fucking bus!!!?!?!? That's how you bus, right? No, you fucking tell why the person you are bussing is scum and yell it through -- or be silent and forget about it and laugh inside, you don't tell people to kill you instead.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 20:09 GMT

#3106

And if there is bussing going on on D1 do you seriously think the person being bussed is Damdred who would be a mafia power role over Eden? No no nono... no.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 20:12 GMT

#3111

On March 28 2017 05:08 Xatalos wrote:
Although rayn, disfo did go swiftly after Eden on D2 (even before you claimed, and just after Damdred). And stayed on him to the end. I'm not really confident if scum disfo does that.

He has benn calling Eden out already after ritoky's post. What else is he gonna do?

Like i can lynch Tumblewood too. I really don't care. I just think the case on AMG + Damdred are super fucking terrible.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 20:13 GMT

#3113

On March 28 2017 05:12 Koshi wrote:

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This is true as well.

Damdred + AMG fits so fucking well.

Now here is one super fucking bad conversation.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 20:15 GMT

#3114

I also fucking hate voting threads and they should never exist. It's impossible to check anything. Lazy hosts.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 20:15 GMT

#3116

How about we put the voting thread on some completely other forum and change our usernames there so it becomes a little bit harder for players to play the game..

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 20:17 GMT

#3118

my only problem with that is, that I dont remember the damdred lynch ever being realistic

I am not gonna change my vote from the person who said this. This is not how D1 went.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 27 2017 20:25 GMT

#3135

On March 28 2017 05:21 Koshi wrote:
It is so obviously Damdred/AMG. Everything fits.

Low page filters

let's talk about Damdred here. Do you understand he has spent like a fucking week in a hospital or something?

No scumhunting what so ever

Has been better at scumhunting than you have.

Town based on 'events' instead of townie posts

Incorrect. You have even yourself ARGUED AGAINST THIS?!?!?!?!!?

Bad starts D1

Yeah dude, and that's why you thought i am 100% scum on N1 and D2? Because that WAS ALL I WAS SAYING DURING THOSE PHASES!!! What the fucking fuck Koshi?

Very limited view on the game

No.

Disappearing acts when under pressure

No. In fact 100% no, Damdred has mostly been here defending himself - at least to me.