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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 13:01 GMT
#2990
Damdred + AMG is not possible and Xatalos is not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 13:32 GMT
#3004
Xatalos is the deadline now 1am for us?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 13:33 GMT
#3007
On March 27 2017 22:04 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred + AMG is not possible and Xatalos is not mafia.

why is damdy + amg not possible?

It makes zero sense by D2.
And i know very well why i am voting for you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 13:34 GMT
#3008
On March 27 2017 22:33 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is the deadline now 1am for us?


Yes seems so. 17+8=25

Ok then i have 2hrs after work to explain shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 15:41 GMT
#3017
Xatalos just go and look at the possible combinations.
AMG cant be mafia with anyone but Koshi and based on today that doesnt make any sense. Someone can argue Damdred but that doesnt make any sense based on D2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 17:04 GMT
#3031
On March 28 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden

I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting.

Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi.
Top scum is Calix.

Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.

I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well:
On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read
2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads
3) "look how much work i already did"

if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place


I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway.

That's about all I got that I think matters right now.

From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred.

Koshi this is baaaaaadddddd.

Damdred was the first one to scumread Eden. Eden voted for Damdred on D1.

The read on disformation is "if calix is scum then disfo is town". Trrrible read when if Calix is town then he can again say whatever he wants on disfo.

How about you guys read what people said on Eden and not orherwise? Double-bus theory is super dumb imo.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 17:35 GMT
#3033
So like AMG + anyone but Koshi is like:
"Hey let me bus Eden and lets have you super hard-defend him so i then you have to call you scum later for that" (which is also what happened...


Suuuper duuuper dumb.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 17:35 GMT
#3034
I have to call you scum*
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 19:43 GMT
#3082
disformation / Tumblewood / (Koshi)

LEt me gather my thoughts real quick i just got home.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 19:44 GMT
#3083
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 19:57 GMT
#3095
First of all who are town:

Xatalos basically because of Darthfoley getting roleblocked N2. That's something that doesn't go with his scumplay (aka not roleblocking me). No no no never.

Damdred. Called Eden mafia on D1. Eden voted for Damdred when there was actually a chance of him getting lynched. The double-bus theory is very very dumb especially since Damdred would be a scum PR and Eden is not. If there was a bus between them it would be Eden being bussed. 100%.

AMG. There is no fucking way AMG comes to D2 and yells that Eden is town. No way, especially since he can't give an answer to "why ritoky died?". I already talked about this, it's absolutely 0% chance of working, and like 80% chance of you getting scumread after Eden flip. The only reason for AMG's behaviour is that he is town and genuinely thought Eden is town for whatever reason. It jsut doesn't make sense any other way.. Then there is this voting thing on D4. IF we assume Damdred is town (which is like fucking 99.9% certain), AMG cannot be mafia because everyone and their mother wanted to kill him just a while ago. Mafia wanting to lynch mafia on this day is super duper dumb. They COULD want to lynch their roleblocker here for end-game town credit but that would mean they had shot me instead of Darthfoley last night (because who the fuck would care about his check - even if it was on the RB since the bus play has to be planned already). So yeah, he is town.




Koshi. I have a very hard time beliving Koshi actually thinks AMG + Damdred is the mafia team. Although Koshi thinks i am mafia in all of the games ever so i don't even know what Koshi can think.... Makes perfect sense if he is scum with disformation, especially after that dumb read from Eden's filter where Eden basically gave "if this then that" read on disformation. But then again i don't know why he wouldn't vote for Eden D2? Maybe they wanted +1 on Xatalos, who the hell knows, i don't.




Tumblewood. His voting record is absolutely horrible and his play is filled with heuristics that don't really have anything to do with actual reads in my opinion. Like "this and this guy are the same alignment because..." is a good example. I first looked this at as a townie thing but meehhh... It makes sense either way, if he is mafia with disformation (defending scumbuddy without actually defending him) or if not (being "right" in "this is TvT fight").

disformation. His play can be summarized with one word. Coasting. There is pretty much nothing else i can say about it. No hard stances, no pushing anything, not really even arguing anything, throughout whole game. A big list of reads after a big lig list of reads after [continue].... and never getting anywhere. I am quite sure he is mafia.




disformation - Tumblewood (60%)
disformation - Koshi (30%)
Tumblewood - Koshi (10%)
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 20:02 GMT
#3098
On March 28 2017 05:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
Damdred. Called Eden mafia on D1. Eden voted for Damdred when there was actually a chance of him getting lynched. The double-bus theory is very very dumb especially since Damdred would be a scum PR and Eden is not. If there was a bus between them it would be Eden being bussed. 100%.

HE WAS BUSSED YOU MORON

HE WASN'T ON D!. BECAUSE DAMDRED'S BUS WOULD HAVE THEN BEEN "WOE KILL ME BECAUSE RAYN DOESN'T LISTEN TO ME AND MY READS BOOHOOO..."

That's not a fucking bus.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 20:07 GMT
#3102
On March 28 2017 05:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 28 2017 05:01 Koshi wrote:
Damdred. Called Eden mafia on D1. Eden voted for Damdred when there was actually a chance of him getting lynched. The double-bus theory is very very dumb especially since Damdred would be a scum PR and Eden is not. If there was a bus between them it would be Eden being bussed. 100%.

HE WAS BUSSED YOU MORON

HE WASN'T ON D!. BECAUSE DAMDRED'S BUS WOULD HAVE THEN BEEN "WOE KILL ME BECAUSE RAYN DOESN'T LISTEN TO ME AND MY READS BOOHOOO..."

That's not a fucking bus.

I don't even understand what you are saying here and I am pretty sure I don't want to know.

That is exactly what Damdred did on D1. Called Eden mafia and when people voted for Malongo and him instead he wanted to kill himself. What a fucking bus!!!?!?!? That's how you bus, right? No, you fucking tell why the person you are bussing is scum and yell it through -- or be silent and forget about it and laugh inside, you don't tell people to kill you instead.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 20:09 GMT
#3106
And if there is bussing going on on D1 do you seriously think the person being bussed is Damdred who would be a mafia power role over Eden? No no nono... no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 20:12 GMT
#3111
On March 28 2017 05:08 Xatalos wrote:
Although rayn, disfo did go swiftly after Eden on D2 (even before you claimed, and just after Damdred). And stayed on him to the end. I'm not really confident if scum disfo does that.

He has benn calling Eden out already after ritoky's post. What else is he gonna do?

Like i can lynch Tumblewood too. I really don't care. I just think the case on AMG + Damdred are super fucking terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 20:13 GMT
#3113
On March 28 2017 05:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 05:11 disformation wrote:
my only problem with that is, that I dont remember the damdred lynch ever being realistic, with a lot of ppl being very adamant on the Mal lynch.
still incredible risky though.

This is true as well.

Damdred + AMG fits so fucking well.

Now here is one super fucking bad conversation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 20:15 GMT
#3114
I also fucking hate voting threads and they should never exist. It's impossible to check anything. Lazy hosts.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 20:15 GMT
#3116
How about we put the voting thread on some completely other forum and change our usernames there so it becomes a little bit harder for players to play the game..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 20:17 GMT
#3118
my only problem with that is, that I dont remember the damdred lynch ever being realistic

I am not gonna change my vote from the person who said this. This is not how D1 went.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2017 20:25 GMT
#3135
On March 28 2017 05:21 Koshi wrote:
It is so obviously Damdred/AMG. Everything fits.

Low page filters

let's talk about Damdred here. Do you understand he has spent like a fucking week in a hospital or something?
No scumhunting what so ever

Has been better at scumhunting than you have.
Town based on 'events' instead of townie posts

Incorrect. You have even yourself ARGUED AGAINST THIS?!?!?!?!!?
Bad starts D1

Yeah dude, and that's why you thought i am 100% scum on N1 and D2? Because that WAS ALL I WAS SAYING DURING THOSE PHASES!!! What the fucking fuck Koshi?
Very limited view on the game

No.
Disappearing acts when under pressure

No. In fact 100% no, Damdred has mostly been here defending himself - at least to me.
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