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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 15:03 GMT
#355
On March 17 2017 08:26 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:24 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Also, Damdred applying newb-scumtells like "appeasing someone who engaged him" to me right after I said I played mafia for several years also seems a bit too simplistic.


What is up with people putting words in people's mouths when they didn't say them?

Can you answer this too?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 15:05 GMT
#356
And what exactly have you explained to other people? Like you explained how you tried to put words in disformation's mouth?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 15:15 GMT
#359
On March 18 2017 00:09 Xatalos wrote:
I don't really read roleplay-posts. I see them as encrypted messages. If it was something important, it would be said plainly. So most likely it's fluff. If it became important later, it would become decrypted at that time anyway.

Sorry, rayn, I don't know what you were saying until your recent posts. I thought your Murloc posts were trolling and the Batman post maybe had some non-important reads hidden within (if it was important, it wouldn't be hidden to begin with).

You seriously cannot think this is correct since i literally put either a <3 or a vote in my posts (other than the one what was talking about Malongo). I even colored the quote from Damdred's post.

Like you can not pay attention to what i am actually saying but you literally cannot think i am not saying anything because you are too smart for that.

Here is a question to you (and for everyone else):

What would you think about if i made a post like this:

"I think Koshi is a good town player and town in this game. Now you, [insert your name here], would you say Koshi is bad town or scum? Because you must think one or the other. You should know the right answer and btw i am not calling you scum here."
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 15:16 GMT
#360
Also Xatalos explain to me where you get the idea of everyone scum/null reading me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 15:44 GMT
#379
On March 18 2017 00:25 disformation wrote:
You could say he is hedging / keeping his options open, but imo this post is more likely to come from town. Esp. since I think scum would be more eager to vote the counter wagon to himself.
[...]
guess the question is whether rayn is right and damdred tried to set me up with that question, or if it was part of the miscommunication that was going on. =/

There is no miscommunication in what i said. He literally just gave an answer to something and then pointed you to a question on that something where all the answers he "accepted from you" were wrong.

Like there is necessarily nothing wrong in that, but the question is useless in the first place because he should already have a conclusion since he knows every answer you give will point into same direction.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 15:47 GMT
#383
On March 18 2017 00:35 Koshi wrote:
@rayn. I am liking Damdred atm. This is a good post.
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

I don't. The last part makes no sense and is not a reason to "doubt" anyone.

The Tumble read is also bad (as you pointed it out now). There is nothing weird in saying "these people are too good to be read town early on for their posting". There is nothing wrong in that. There is nothing interesting in that, it doesn't mean anything since Tumble just pointed out (in case he is town - which i am quite sure he is) what he believes to be true, and it makes sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 15:52 GMT
#387
On March 18 2017 00:36 Xatalos wrote:
By the way, rayn, you said disfo had no problems. Isn't it a bit hard to just ignore him like that? He did basically make up things I never said and also acted very defensive/tense when just questioned. Those are at least slight problems in my eyes.

I am not sure where he made up something, could you point me out to that?
Being defensive/tense has nothing to do with alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 15:55 GMT
#398
On March 18 2017 00:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 18 2017 00:35 Koshi wrote:
@rayn. I am liking Damdred atm. This is a good post.
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

I don't. The last part makes no sense and is not a reason to "doubt" anyone.

The Tumble read is also bad (as you pointed it out now). There is nothing weird in saying "these people are too good to be read town early on for their posting". There is nothing wrong in that. There is nothing interesting in that, it doesn't mean anything since Tumble just pointed out (in case he is town - which i am quite sure he is) what he believes to be true, and it makes sense.

No. I understand the doubting on the DBS read. DBS is more likely town than mafia, way more likely. But if he is mafia, he had it pretty easy so far.

But there is no reason to doubt a townread on him atm. You jsut don't "doubt" something unless they do something scummy (which is not something DBS has done). Especially coming from Damdred who has a tendency to afk for large amount of times in games lately. It's just bs to even imply DBS could be mafia for that because it's never something that is associated with one's alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 15:57 GMT
#400
The only thing i see Xatalos is you saying "disformation was describing I said things I didn't" and i don't know which those things are.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:03 GMT
#410
On March 18 2017 00:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 18 2017 00:51 Koshi wrote:
On March 18 2017 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 18 2017 00:35 Koshi wrote:
@rayn. I am liking Damdred atm. This is a good post.
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

I don't. The last part makes no sense and is not a reason to "doubt" anyone.

The Tumble read is also bad (as you pointed it out now). There is nothing weird in saying "these people are too good to be read town early on for their posting". There is nothing wrong in that. There is nothing interesting in that, it doesn't mean anything since Tumble just pointed out (in case he is town - which i am quite sure he is) what he believes to be true, and it makes sense.

No. I understand the doubting on the DBS read. DBS is more likely town than mafia, way more likely. But if he is mafia, he had it pretty easy so far.

But there is no reason to doubt a townread on him atm. You jsut don't "doubt" something unless they do something scummy (which is not something DBS has done). Especially coming from Damdred who has a tendency to afk for large amount of times in games lately. It's just bs to even imply DBS could be mafia for that because it's never something that is associated with one's alignment.

Not true. You have to factor in afkness. My best games have been when I made a list and constantly updated that list. If a person didn't post during a long period he automatically moves down the list. This way mafia players that had a good moment have to keep turning up and perform.

If DBS doesn't post tonight. He falls low very fast.

See your last conclusion is okay. Damdred's conclusion however is that DBS has already fallen on the list because he could be sleeping or working or whatever....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:04 GMT
#412
I don't think there is anything alignment indicative in that event except for Damdred. I don't think that's what disformation was doing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:05 GMT
#414
On March 18 2017 01:03 Koshi wrote:
Hmm. I think I have 90 minutes left and then I am gone for something like 27h30m at least. Like... I should be home for deadline but I could not be home. But normally I should have at least 30 minutes. Can't imagine us eating later than 22h00 my time. And very maybe this night when I am home on time. I should be. But I really want to go to bed early today. 00:00 latest.

Shower now. Ask me stuff.

Vote for Damdred or Malongo, i am 90% sure both are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:06 GMT
#416
Disformation is not mafia. Even if what Xatalos says is right no mafia jsut straight up makes up shit on some random person at the start of the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:12 GMT
#421
On March 18 2017 01:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 18 2017 01:03 Koshi wrote:
Hmm. I think I have 90 minutes left and then I am gone for something like 27h30m at least. Like... I should be home for deadline but I could not be home. But normally I should have at least 30 minutes. Can't imagine us eating later than 22h00 my time. And very maybe this night when I am home on time. I should be. But I really want to go to bed early today. 00:00 latest.

Shower now. Ask me stuff.

Vote for Damdred or Malongo, i am 90% sure both are mafia.

way ahead of you.

In fact you're not
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:14 GMT
#423
On March 18 2017 01:10 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disformation is not mafia. Even if what Xatalos says is right no mafia jsut straight up makes up shit on some random person at the start of the game.


I thought he lost track of his supposed thoughts / real events and too forcibly twisted the narrative or something.

Is this true disformation?
Can you give your view of the things and how they went in your opinion?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:21 GMT
#427
So disformation, explain this very concisely.
Why did you pull something out of thin air?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:22 GMT
#428
On March 18 2017 01:18 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 00:56 darthfoley wrote:
On March 18 2017 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
you can poke holes in my TvT argument but I know I'm right, I've never missed a read like this. and if you are baffled by how else disfo could respond to an accusation, look at what I've done all game


can you summarize your thoughts on the game atm: lynch trains/reads/no lynch circle for you, etc?

calix & disfo are town
I liked dbs but that read's back to null again after a disappointing continuation
malongo is a slight town lean
I like rayn and xata by gut buuut I can't explain why
Damdred is ok? Koshi too
no one who is actually playing is striking me as scummy so I might just park my vote on onegu

Explain to me why you think i am town when i have called out people you are townreading and you said you cannot make a good read on vets so far?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:27 GMT
#432
6. Note that I don't even attribute a single bit of scumminess to this, as I know that I just pulled that out of thin air in looking for a possible explanation for damdreds vote.
7. everyone blows up in my face

I mean yes man, that's what you get in (7) usually when you do (6).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:29 GMT
#434
On March 18 2017 01:26 disformation wrote:

I was trying to see if I could figure out why damdred was scumread xatalos, because I didnt get that damdred was joke voting xatalos and that was the best thing i could come up with. so i was expecting something good from damdred and was disappointed when damdred came up with something even worse than what i had.

I am confused. This doesn't really answer my question. What do you mean by the "best thing i could come up with"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 16:30 GMT
#435
I don't scumread Xatalos anymore, i can now see where he is coming from.
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