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On March 17 2017 08:18 Damdred wrote: Pst koshi you violating your 92 hour rule bro I actually think he could be town for that. Only because it's like he can't help but post ITT even when he doesn't want to and scum generally don't have that impulse  But I can't tell whether this read is bullshit or brilliant -.- | ||
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On March 17 2017 08:18 DeepBlueSea89 wrote: It just seemed like an easy jump and the thought process felt shallow. Here's how I see it: 1. Scum typically lurk (at least more often than not) and I've scumread people in the past who answer irrelevant fluff questions without participating in the major discussion in the thread at the time especially early on in the game. 2. Koshi asked me a question. 3. I ignore everything else (the discussion between Xatalos and Damdred for instance) and respond to that pretty much instantly. 4. This shows I was reading the thread and refreshing it fairly often even if I'm not commenting. That's more often than not something scum do although there were extenuating circumstances here. 5. Koshi picked up on it and asked why I was lurking. That showed me he was on the lookout for possible scum even outside the major thread of discussion. So, I think he's probably town. It's not solid but that's the best read I have this early on. 6. Damdred I think missed the subtext entirely. He just threw out a shallow read "oh, he's appeasing someone who engaged him so he could be scum." It's just an easy read on someone he thinks would be an easy target. He doesn't really wonder why I townread Koshi or even straight up ask me. Why are you townreading Damdred? Tah for the explanation, it's good to see where you're coming from. I'm not spotting any logical inconsistencies in your logic so I have no problem with your Koshi interaction atm. As for Damdred, it's mostly tone. He's chill, not defensive or overly antagonistic or trying to blend in or be disruptive. And he looks like he's trying to get shit done ITT. That's the gist of it, basically. | ||
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 disformation is where it's at. He was on the defensive the entire time while everyone else hasn't been once they've climbed out of their shells. (this was kinda why I wanted Koshi's take on the disfo/ Xat/ DD thing but oh well) | ||
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It's not really based on filter-diving or whatever. I just feel like everyone who is talking right now is posting without an agenda and is just saying what they have so far and is being reasonable and helping the town. So imo we shouldn't lynch among Xat/ DD/ Koshi/ Blue today. Does this sound really premature? Maybe but that's my impressions of the 'atmosphere' of the game so far so I'm pretty confident here. Don't feel like the chat is very mafia-influenced right now. If this doesn't make sense then ask away. I feel like a hippie right now xD | ||
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On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote: disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2. Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter? Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off. I don't see how Damdred is comparable. | ||
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On March 17 2017 08:55 Koshi wrote: Yes. Disformation his filter is crappy. But is he mafia? Dunno. Why don't you vote for him and find out? | ||
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How is that 'since dis is going to go for a bit' line bad? If he said that and then shit-talked disformation then I'd see your point but all Damdred does is give reads. That seems more town to me. Pretty weak imo. | ||
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@Koshi, your only remotely valid point is that Damdred hasn't talked much about disformation so I will await his response there. Otherwise I stand by what I said earlier. | ||
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On March 17 2017 09:29 Koshi wrote: Well. It is quite obvious you are basing your Xata and Calix townread on what they said about disformation. Or at least are hinting on that. But the only pressure you put against disformation was some cynical comment somewhere. Which wasn't the worst when I first read it. But meh. Not sure if I like it now. And then he leaves and you still don't share your read on disformation? Just lazy townreads on who attacked him. Meh. I dislike it. I disagree with the bolded. He didn't give any indication as to why we were town-reads. His opening line does not correlate with the next line. They are given separately. Given that this is the crux of your argument here, I think your conclusion is misguided and elusive. "Meh meh" kind of thing. | ||
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On March 17 2017 09:35 darthfoley wrote: Useless qualifier that is attempting to scum read someone while also defending a walk back later by saying it was off "vibes." I always find the "player X person is 'defensive' = they're mafia!" such an easy read for mafia to make early game especially. The read feels forced and similar to scum!Calix of last game I played with her. lol DF, this is terrible. Saying that my read is based off 'vibes' isn't a qualifier. It means that it's not based on any particular post or grounded in logic. It's also not something that I did a lot when I was mafia with you so that's just factually incorrect. The fact that you're trying to sell that as me 'backtracking' is a stretch so big that you'll be placing first in the Olympic Gymnastics. | ||
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On March 17 2017 09:39 Koshi wrote: Like I don't even know why you are defending Damdred... Let him do it himself as soon as he figures out why he is scumreading disformation lool I'm attacking your argument because I think it's weak and I have no idea how you think it's better than the case on disformation. The fact that it's focused on Damdred is secondary to that. | ||
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And what do you think of DF? I think his posts on me are fucking terrible but I'm incredibly biased and it's also possible that DF came out of that mafia game and now thinks he knows everything about my scum meta. But that doesn't explain why he's using it as a replacement for actual analysis though  | ||
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On March 17 2017 09:48 Koshi wrote: Damdred is making bad posts when it matters. Scumhunting (rayn example). Pressuring (where?). And explaining his reads. (what I said). But looks "ok" in his other posts. disformation his filter looks plain horrible. Could he be mafia? Yes. Could he be town? Yes. Is mafia going to backseat push him then? Yes. Your logic about disformation just as easily applies to Damdred given that he's the leading train and you, a supposed townie, are pushing him, yet you do not consider this. Why? | ||
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On March 17 2017 09:48 darthfoley wrote: That wasn't the qualifier I was talking about, rather, it was the unnecessary way in which you began your read by telling us what your read wasn't, rather than what it was. "Nothing to do with what you're saying, really..." It's an awkward way of wording something and doesn't feel natural to me. That's still not backtracking. All it is saying is "it's not what disfo said, it's how he said it" but in a casual way. Unless you step up your analysis, I'm not impressed with you so far. | ||
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On March 17 2017 09:51 darthfoley wrote: lol can someone link me to a time someone accused calix of being scummy without her immediately solar flare flaming you, Maze Runner style? +1 for Maze Runner reference. | ||
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On March 17 2017 09:56 darthfoley wrote: Tell me where I said you were backtracking now? ??? How would me saying "lol it's his tone/ vibes" or whatever = a way for me to avoid accountability later? I'm still the person championing disformation's wagon right now - a clear contradiction to this idea. If you're not arguing that then I don't understand what your point was to begin with. | ||
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I'm not 100% sure on disformation or anywhere close but he's the person who has stuck out to me the most so I'd like to hear more from him when he wakes up or whatever. Plenty to talk about at this stage tbh. | ||
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On March 17 2017 10:07 darthfoley wrote: Reading the thread enough to vote, but not posting anything of substance. #LurkModeInitiated Is Raynpelikoneet also scummy to you? If not, why? | ||
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