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Now this is smart Damdred.
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I mean, the game is so different in any way of my games ever. Scum or town. I was completely tiltted from the first second of that game when the first posts in the thread are all my scumbuddies bussing the fuck out of each other and noone has said anything in scum Qt...
If you just look at my posting there, for a one fucking second you will see it has nothing to do with any game of mafia ever because i was just spouting shit out of my mouth with nothing at all.. Except for calling all my scumbuddies scum jsut because .... Claiming because why not... then i just replaced out because of the XXX game end as i was so fucking burned out as i tried so hard and got lynched for being not scummy but fucking blabla something else..
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On March 22 2017 01:43 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:On March 22 2017 01:36 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:34 Damdred wrote:
Totally different though, Rayn was actually up for lynch near eod. We had little time to really discuss it or parse anything.
Here we've had 48 hours almsot to talk about it and his reasoning is 9000000% better to claim here It would make a ton of sense to claim later though. He could judge the reactions and how the wagons develop, then claim if needed to shock the scumteam. He wouldn't be scared of pressure as town. And risk being lynched with how afk the game is near eod generally? And really why are you going so crazy on you v rayn here? We have 5 hours for lynch really and I do not think the game is going to lynch rayn here. Your best bet if you are town is to convince the game you are by finding the other scum etc. I'm fine with being lynched if that's what it takes. I'm VT anyway. It would break my 10-game record or so of not being lynched as town, but it would probably solve the game. Especially if Eden is scum. So it's kind of OK. I just have this nagging feeling that rayn is still scum that won't go away, so it's very hard to resist talking.
So you think i am mafia but you're okay with being lynched?
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On March 22 2017 01:44 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:30 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:24 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:08 Xatalos wrote:
Question: why would he be so FUCKING DESPERATE as town to waste away his JK role for having a couple of votes on himself at D2 start? How does town come to that conclusion? I never would. And I haven't seen him do that before either. He does like risky gambles though, and fake claiming would be just his style. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/439578-extractor-trick-mini-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet/dunked OK, seems like you have. Not sure how much of that game state transfers to this one, since it seemed to be more blue-focused and a smaller game, but at least you have. How many times have you fakeclaimed though?  6 times in one game as town. kk Lynched all the scum though, except for onegu because sno_man is a terrible player and we had to consolidate on him in lylo with yamato. Onegu almost shot me AFTER lylo when he thought i might be SK.  Such a good game
Yes, i correctly identified marv (who was like mafia god at that time) as mafia roleblocker over a CONFIRMED mafia and fucking yelled Hapa to lynch him for like fucking 1902738 hours. <3
So good, and then snodude ruined it all. 
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On March 22 2017 01:46 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:43 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:On March 22 2017 01:36 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:34 Damdred wrote:
Totally different though, Rayn was actually up for lynch near eod. We had little time to really discuss it or parse anything.
Here we've had 48 hours almsot to talk about it and his reasoning is 9000000% better to claim here It would make a ton of sense to claim later though. He could judge the reactions and how the wagons develop, then claim if needed to shock the scumteam. He wouldn't be scared of pressure as town. And risk being lynched with how afk the game is near eod generally? And really why are you going so crazy on you v rayn here? We have 5 hours for lynch really and I do not think the game is going to lynch rayn here. Your best bet if you are town is to convince the game you are by finding the other scum etc. I'm fine with being lynched if that's what it takes. I'm VT anyway. It would break my 10-game record or so of not being lynched as town, but it would probably solve the game. Especially if Eden is scum. So it's kind of OK. I just have this nagging feeling that rayn is still scum that won't go away, so it's very hard to resist talking. So you think i am mafia but you're okay with being lynched? I think you have about 30% chance of being scum. Eden is maybe 80% and DF 60%. But this EOD will tell a lot.
No Xatalos. Who is mafia and why. No percentages. No bullshit.
Who is mafia and why?
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On March 22 2017 01:53 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:46 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:43 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:On March 22 2017 01:36 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:34 Damdred wrote:
Totally different though, Rayn was actually up for lynch near eod. We had little time to really discuss it or parse anything.
Here we've had 48 hours almsot to talk about it and his reasoning is 9000000% better to claim here It would make a ton of sense to claim later though. He could judge the reactions and how the wagons develop, then claim if needed to shock the scumteam. He wouldn't be scared of pressure as town. And risk being lynched with how afk the game is near eod generally? And really why are you going so crazy on you v rayn here? We have 5 hours for lynch really and I do not think the game is going to lynch rayn here. Your best bet if you are town is to convince the game you are by finding the other scum etc. I'm fine with being lynched if that's what it takes. I'm VT anyway. It would break my 10-game record or so of not being lynched as town, but it would probably solve the game. Especially if Eden is scum. So it's kind of OK. I just have this nagging feeling that rayn is still scum that won't go away, so it's very hard to resist talking. So you think i am mafia but you're okay with being lynched? I think you have about 30% chance of being scum. Eden is maybe 80% and DF 60%. But this EOD will tell a lot. No Xatalos. Who is mafia and why. No percentages. No bullshit. Who is mafia and why? Eden almost certainly. DF is also a strong candidate due to POE and less than impressive posts / ever weaker impact on the thread as the game went on. Rest is in you/AMG/Onegu probably.
Why AMG?
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On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately.
Why Tumble town?
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On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1)
I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense?
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I concur, until the very last 15 minutes of the day 1 when you decided it's fun to try lynch rayn.
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For the record i am gonna go play poker in about an hour or 2 and then i will be back before the deadline but not necessarily on computer. I am almost certain Xatalos is mafia. Sheep me or not but i am almost certain.
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On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are.
How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment?
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On March 22 2017 02:08 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:05 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:56 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both vote for me instead of Eden. I need a couple of hours to figure this shit out. Why in the name of all that is holy would you risk your own life as JK? Or claim in the first place, if I might ask? I would never do either of those actions as a blue, and you're very willing to abandon your role usage for some thread clout. Why would he do it as mafia? Why ask this question? And why are you ignoring my 3 posts I made on you? Sorry, I was keeping up with the thread on my phone in short bursts earlier. Didn't read your posts in detail. I'll get to them eventually. Could you maybe summarize your case? Because like a couple of pages ago I was your top town, now top scum. The change is really radical. As scum his actions would make a lot of sense. Gain some credibility by fakeclaiming (especially in a vanilla setup), direct the lynch away from himself/Eden, maybe get 1-2 mislynches before getting caught. If it's not a vanilla setup, he could alternatively catch the blues before going down. As town..... just why would he abandon his crucial role with ease and even want people to vote for him vs me? As scum he would certainly want that, since it'd be easier to win him vs me than Eden vs me. I already explained to you that there is no way rayn fucking fakeclaims to save his partner Eden. This is not fucking lylo and he can ALWAYS be counter to be CONFIRMED mafia. Why would he be THIS FUCKING DESPERATE AS MAFIA? Well in the vanilla setup it would make perfect sense. The situation was pretty desperate with scum vs scum wagons (assuming they're both scum). This is why I am uncomfortable lynching Xata for the time being. He seems to be the only one seriously considering THIS specifical scenario in which rayn can't be CC'd. Is it likely? Not really, but the fact that he's arguing it is townie IMO. Like why throw this much shade towards a blue, if you're scum!Xata?????? What is the end goal
I am not getting lynched today 100%. If he is mafia he is gonna draw out the other PR and "cannot be blamed about it because he was right in that if it's all vanilla setup rayn can be mafia".
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yes i can be mafia if it is an all vanilla setup but i never shoot ritoky because i am a retard if i do that.
so stop df, don't draw out the other pr if you're town.
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On March 22 2017 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment?
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On March 22 2017 02:11 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment? Well, by some simple logic. If we make the assumption that we're both town and competing on "rightness".... You were sure Malongo was scum. I was unsure. He wasn't. You're sure I'm scum. I'm not. I'm not sure you're scum. You're ??? (if not, then at least I'm closer to the truth again). Damdred is probably town. I'm probably right. Etc. etc.
wow wow wow...... "At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are."
No. "not sure" does not comply.
How are you CERTAINLY closer to truth than i am?
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Are you saying youre closer because i appear confident and you dont? Or what?
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On March 22 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:11 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment? Well, by some simple logic. If we make the assumption that we're both town and competing on "rightness".... You were sure Malongo was scum. I was unsure. He wasn't. You're sure I'm scum. I'm not. I'm not sure you're scum. You're ??? (if not, then at least I'm closer to the truth again). Damdred is probably town. I'm probably right. Etc. etc. wow wow wow...... "At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are." No. "not sure" does not comply. How are you CERTAINLY closer to truth than i am? Based on Malongo's flip and my own alignment. That's all I know for sure at this point. (ritoky not included since we never really debated that)
So if i am town and Tumble is town and Damdred is mafia how are you closer to truth than i am?
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No, i am never switching my vote here.
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And how exactly did i push Malongo except for 1 post ~3hrs into the game?
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