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On March 22 2017 00:22 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 00:18 Xatalos wrote: That's not even a case, just a side-note. Besides you probably misunderstood it (on purpose or not). I just meant that your reads were a bit too unnaturally static until then, never even reconsidering with new info, just repeating old points. It doesnt matter what it is, it matter Calix' filter says she scumread me for it so why don't you scumread her then for a shit read? I don't think Calix put you to scum based on that note. She just said it was better than my pre-flip stuff I was talking previously. Here is exactly what is fucking wrong with you in this game.....
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You buy everyone else's stuff at face value except for mine, for no fucking reason.
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On March 20 2017 04:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 04:48 Xatalos wrote: Maybe it'll do good to distance myself from this mess a bit. At the moment I have a significantly stronger scumlean on rayn than before N1 started though. Every time rayn has scumread me for stupid reasons like that EOD thing, he's been scum so far.. I guess we've fought our fair share as town vs town too, but then it's usually been because I made some sort of huge blunder, not because he's trying to fling random small points against me. That's only happened with scum rayn.
Note also how he's scumread me pretty much all game, only with shifting (weak) reasons.
Well, AFK for a while now... If I happen to die, keep a close eye on rayn. You should probably lay off the meta reads. Correct me if I am wrong but you two haven't played together since...2014? 2015? Your meta tells are probably outdated if I'm right.I'm starting to think that the townie-looking people who aren't really DOING anything are more likely to be mafia. disformation. Can anyone tell me what he is doing? Because I can't remember a single thing he's done outside of the early game. His VCA posts are a more boring version of my own take on the votes. It didn't feel like his analysis was very insightful. Koshi. Again, nice filter but hasn't done a lot. Not so sure on this one, could just be busy for 92 hours like he said. ritoky. Lots of debate-orientated points in his posts to DF which are great theoretically but don't mean anything for his alignment. Has the Eden post, however. Rels/ Onegu. I think Rels is more likely to be scum here, just because I don't spot any incongruencies with Onegu's current posting. Eden does not actually fit into this heuristic. He has those forceful posts on me going for him. Will have to see his response to the current events though. She has read me town allllll the way up until here. Then comes this:
On March 20 2017 06:22 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 06:21 Xatalos wrote: Notable also that rayn's suspect list stayed the through the whole D1 (me/Damdred/Malongo). Even now it's mostly the same, after Malongo flipped town. This is actually a good point. And you didn't even need meta for that  And hey, suddenly after:
On March 20 2017 07:05 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 07:03 Xatalos wrote: I wouldn't be against having rayn vs Eden wagons today. Wouldn't even surprise me if they're both scum. I'm not super-convinced here but two wagons is always a good idea so I'll help with this endeavour.
On March 20 2017 07:09 Calix wrote:Three of Eden, disformation, Onegu, Rels and as of late, rayn. You and Koshi are also possible but not a priority by any means and Koshi's latest posts were decent. Kinda POE since I think I have decent reasons for town-reading everyone else.
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I will rephrase my question. Why THE FUCK did you scumread me Calix, if not for that?
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(Note that this is intended to be a question where there is no right answer)
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If Eden is mafia Calix is always mafia.
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On March 22 2017 00:42 Calix wrote: Are you fucking stupid, rayn? I literally say in those quotes that I voted because of sheeping and wagon stuff and then made a post where you were POE because everyone else is townier? That is not a scum read still and you will never find evidence proving otherwise because none exists.
Literally have been incredibly townie the entire game and you scum-read me for the dumbest shit that doesn't show mafia agenda in the slightest. Bad bad bad bad bad. Boo-hoo-hoo. No. It is a scumread because you literally defended me just before and pointed out those you "POE'd townier" as more scummy just fucking hours ago. So what happened between there if not the most obvious Xatalos post you agreed with?
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On March 22 2017 00:44 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 00:42 Calix wrote: Are you fucking stupid, rayn? I literally say in those quotes that I voted because of sheeping and wagon stuff and then made a post where you were POE because everyone else is townier? That is not a scum read still and you will never find evidence proving otherwise because none exists.
Literally have been incredibly townie the entire game and you scum-read me for the dumbest shit that doesn't show mafia agenda in the slightest. Bad bad bad bad bad. rayn this game in a nutshell  Fuck you scum.
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Wait no not only that, you dumped all your scumreads for "townie-looking reads who haven't done a lot" ..... :o :o :o
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Jesus, they are both scum. Now who is the third. Can it be Eden?
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Both vote for me instead of Eden. I need a couple of hours to figure this shit out.
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Koshi you know this is true.
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On March 22 2017 00:55 Koshi wrote: No Calix can never be mafia rayn. incorrect.
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I have claimed parity cop at the start of D1 as a parity cop so dunked.
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On March 22 2017 01:21 Damdred wrote: Also i'm not sure if I would call it desperate claim either. It's not, if he read my discussion with Adam he would know but obviously he has some other agendas to push for it.
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On March 22 2017 01:24 Xatalos wrote:OK, seems like you have. Not sure how much of that game state transfers to this one, since it seemed to be more blue-focused and a smaller game, but at least you have. How many times have you fakeclaimed though?  6 times in one game as town.
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On March 22 2017 01:25 Damdred wrote: Like if you compare his claim to some of his other claims like guardians of the galaxy as scum, that one looks a lot different and actually looks desperate.
This looks really different and in line with his town games. In that game i trolled hardcore because my scumteam was shit and the town somehow magically managed to lose to them anyways.... Like jesus christ 2 scum claimed vigilante and i think sicklucker even shot Toad or something. Every scum called every scum mafia so i didn't bother. What a fucking clusterfuck.
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On March 22 2017 01:30 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:24 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:08 Xatalos wrote: Question: why would he be so FUCKING DESPERATE as town to waste away his JK role for having a couple of votes on himself at D2 start? How does town come to that conclusion? I never would. And I haven't seen him do that before either. He does like risky gambles though, and fake claiming would be just his style. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/439578-extractor-trick-mini-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet/dunked OK, seems like you have. Not sure how much of that game state transfers to this one, since it seemed to be more blue-focused and a smaller game, but at least you have. How many times have you fakeclaimed though?  6 times in one game as town. kk Lynched all the scum though, except for onegu because sno_man is a terrible player and we had to consolidate on him in lylo with yamato. Onegu almost shot me AFTER lylo when he thought i might be SK.
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On March 22 2017 01:33 Xatalos wrote: Kind of felt similar to me though. Similarly done to sway the lynch situation to his favor for a short-term gain? LOL Oh god this is so fucking terrible. EVEN COMPARING Guardinas game to ANY other game i have EVER played is trashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... :D
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