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On March 20 2017 22:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:27 Calix wrote:
I don't get how you spend more time calling rayn mafia than you do looking at, I dunno, disformation or Tweedledumb or any of your town-reads and asking them questions.
It's a massive waste of time on someone who is extremely likely town even though you think someone else claimed blue ???
You're not making any sense and it's just a bunch of crap.
As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation. I guess I should let it slide for today already. It gets harder to resist every time rayn appears in the thread though.
Legit question. When was the last time that you took your own initiative and scum-hunted?
Yes, this question makes me a hypocrite but I don't care. Put a sock in it about how rayn's mafia in these implausible scenarios which are based on NOTHING and start talking about actual people, God.
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On March 20 2017 22:32 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:31 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 22:29 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 22:27 Calix wrote:
I don't get how you spend more time calling rayn mafia than you do looking at, I dunno, disformation or Tweedledumb or any of your town-reads and asking them questions.
It's a massive waste of time on someone who is extremely likely town even though you think someone else claimed blue ???
You're not making any sense and it's just a bunch of crap.
As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation. I guess I should let it slide for today already. It gets harder to resist every time rayn appears in the thread though. Legit question. When was the last time that you took your own initiative and scum-hunted? Yes, this question makes me a hypocrite but I don't care. Put a sock in it about how rayn's mafia in these implausible scenarios which are based on NOTHING and start talking about actual people, God. rayn would get offended if he's not even an actual person 
I carefully considered your suggestion that clogging up the chat with speculative claim wankery counts as 'scum-hunting' and then laughed and chucked it in the shredder.
Do something else please instead of being glib about your current anti-town behaviour 
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On March 20 2017 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation. It depends of if he is talking about the night kill or the pre-emptive daypost. If it's the former he is always mafia because he thought ritoky's case was super good and Eden is scummy so there should be no "wow why did mafia shoot ritoky????", never.
I'm pretty sure he was talking about the kill because someone saying "wait what, didn't see that one coming O.o" about the resolution period while ignoring the kill doesn't make much sense.
But I don't think it makes him 100% mafia since there were a lot of people, myself included, who thought ritoky's post was good and that Eden was scummy and were still surprised that ritoky died.
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On March 20 2017 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Calix, i want your opinion on this :
Assume the following scenarios:
1) rayn = mafia, Eden = mafia
2) rayn = mafia, Eden = town
Why does rayn kill ritoky? Why does rayn claim JK?
Not the best person to ask since I don't like NKA that much and I'm not good at it but:
1. As part of some weird, TL-tier bussing strategy where you swoop in and take the cred for pushing ritoky's scum-read?
2. Framing?
I don't consider these reasons to be particularly strong since I've never seen anyone kill a player to frame someone on this site. And I don't see why you, specifically, would kill ritoky since you scum-read him, he town-read you and mafia aren't usually fans of killing their scum-reads and reducing support for them in the thread.
It doesn't necessarily 'clear' you by NKA standards alone since there are multiple mafia members left but I do not see why you would have chosen to kill ritoky.
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What about Xatalos, Koshi? I actually think Rayn has a valid point with his latest post (#1464).
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On March 20 2017 23:09 Koshi wrote:
If Damdred and Xatalos are mafia this game I failed horrible but I don't believe it. They are just lock towns for me.
So I can still be mafia? I'm flattered, if not surprised 
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What the fuck did I just read?
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On March 20 2017 23:24 disformation wrote:bestest post i ever made. working on derdmad, the ethereal oak got that started before I saw the current ongoings, so will finish that before reading xata solatax, the rolling thunder
The only question it poses is, disformation, why are you such a dork?
Also my internet is shit because I'm in the middle of a massive thunderstorm.
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On March 20 2017 23:38 AMG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like what about them you don't like. He parks his vote on mal for being "suspect". Never elaborated on what that even meant. Does not even attempt to engage Mal in any questioning or conversation. Makes a case on why Eden might be better lynch, vote stays on mal, says he does not feel comfortable being on the same wagon as DR, yet never moved his vote off. Talks about how little resistance there is to mals lunch, does not get off it.
Let's not kill this guy today.
He is providing fresh points that do not suck and do not look like he's painting people as scum. This is good for town discussion.
Even if he is mafia, his current actions are pro-town and he should be kept around for that reason.
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Xatalos, are you always this agreeable? It's pinging me but I don't know if that's just your personality because I remember that you were pretty "go with the flow" in our scum chat as well.
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On March 20 2017 23:54 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 23:51 Calix wrote:
Xatalos, are you always this agreeable? It's pinging me but I don't know if that's just your personality because I remember that you were pretty "go with the flow" in our scum chat as well. Hmm... you just finished accusing me of disrupting the flow too much?
Much like you did with Skynx?
I mean, you've agreed with a lot of stuff this game so I'd like to know.
I also don't get why you're literally apologising for voting for someone else or why disformation's RP and being a nerd makes him town.
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On March 21 2017 00:07 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 23:58 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 23:54 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 23:51 Calix wrote:
Xatalos, are you always this agreeable? It's pinging me but I don't know if that's just your personality because I remember that you were pretty "go with the flow" in our scum chat as well. Hmm... you just finished accusing me of disrupting the flow too much? Much like you did with Skynx? I mean, you've agreed with a lot of stuff this game so I'd like to know. I also don't get why you're literally apologising for voting for someone else or why disformation's RP and being a nerd makes him town. Still not sure about disfo, but he's clearly trying to do things, and not in a way that directly makes himself look better (which would be the main scum motivation).Can't remember the Skynx reference anymore. In general I haven't played almost at all for the last two years or so? I'd say I'm most proactive as town when I'm the most active poster / "thread leader" regardless of alignment. When the thread is already progressing fine, I become more passive (see the PYP game - I mostly much followed thread sentiment with town rayn/Marv/Palmar leading the discussion). If things are going badly, I often un-lazy myself and push more aggressively. As scum... I'm pretty survival-focused, I think. Often even willing to bus to gain cred. And avoid attention as much as can be done. Take that as you will.
That makes more sense re: disformation.
And that's a yes then
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God damn, how are you reading through these filters so fast??
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On March 21 2017 01:45 Xatalos wrote:
Tumble is bit of WTF as well. Feels more genuine and spontaneous with his WTFness though. With disfo it's more of a "crafted" WTFness... Tumble just feels like he says whatever he thought a second ago.
The sudden RP wasn't a tip-off as to something being up? P:
I mean, I'd like more elaboration here since you thought scumformation was townie at least partly for his weird RP a while back.
What changed?
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On March 21 2017 01:58 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 01:51 Calix wrote:On March 21 2017 01:45 Xatalos wrote:
Tumble is bit of WTF as well. Feels more genuine and spontaneous with his WTFness though. With disfo it's more of a "crafted" WTFness... Tumble just feels like he says whatever he thought a second ago. The sudden RP wasn't a tip-off as to something being up? P: I mean, I'd like more elaboration here since you thought scumformation was townie at least partly for his weird RP a while back. What changed? Not sure I understand your question. My read on disfo didn't really change significantly after reading his filter. I just compared him to Tumble and Tumble's WTF antics felt more natural, so I'd put him a bit above disfo in towny rankings.
Oh, I misunderstood you then.
Not gonna lie, I largely have the reads that I do because everyone else looks ten times townier and I don't see any flaws in the current town reads that I have. This is partly why I'm being incredibly lazy because I don't see how half the players in the thread can be mafia this game and the other half of the game aren't prolific posters.
Well, I remember thinking that DF could maybe possibly be mafia but I forget why. So I might filter him later just to be super-duper-double sure 
But aside from that, I'm bored, don't feel like constantly arguing with people who I don't really scum-read 'just to be sure' and I probably won't do anything for a while unless my main suspects talk.
So yeah, AFK time for now.
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Yo scumformation, how's that lock scum Calix and Koshi possibly scum thing going?
As for the other two chumps, I know that I'm notoriously off with my reads as town but that doesn't mean I'm always wrong
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You know, I don't even think disformation is that mafia anymore since there wasn't anything that bad in the reads that he did give and you two made some valid points in his favour. It's mostly POE that keeps him from being a town-read but you can't push someone for that.
So as it stands, my vote is me being a hipster/ avoiding mod-kill because Eden is getting lynched anyway and I don't scum-read anyone harder so I don't care to stop that.
As for DF, haven't read him yet. But I might do that in an hour or so, a bit busy atm.
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I laugh at how we're basically saying the same shit about each other. #Rels #TouhouMafia
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Yo DF, Xatalos and DDD are tinfoiling you as scum iirc. You should check that out.
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On March 21 2017 04:52 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 04:42 darthfoley wrote:On March 21 2017 04:38 Calix wrote:
Yo DF, Xatalos and DDD are tinfoiling you as scum iirc. You should check that out. Yea I saw. Xata frames it as hedging when I consider it to be logical and reasoned play, especially regarding you. I realized mid way through day 1 that I was spending way too much brain power on you and making tons of pre flip associations and shit that were counterproductive. I didnt hedge at all on Malongo and gave him multiple chances for me to rethink my vote. I don't think this game is as easy as everyone seems to think and I don't have huge PoE town circles to work off of. Top town are rayn given the claim and you, followed by koshi. After that it gets very muddled for me and I'm by sure what to think Maybe. There isn't anything super scummy about you. Just the general careful/hedging feel of many posts and POE.
Seems like a common refrain today from most people, eh?
On March 21 2017 04:57 disformation wrote:
getting tired, so lazy mode until bed. sue me. =p
Oh we will. My lawyer will be in touch.
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