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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 21 2017 22:14 GMT
#2201
I don't think both scummers are on Xatalos either unless the scum team is Koshi/ Adam or rayn is somehow bullshitting beyond all levels of logic.

It's entirely possible that the scum thought "eh, Eden's a lost cause, let's just vote and cut our losses" and that the Xatalos wagon is pure, actually.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2017 22:15 GMT
#2202
How long are we gonna let TW get away with reads changing every two seconds, and defending everything based off of gut reads and "vibes?"

but actually
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 22:16 GMT
#2203
On March 22 2017 07:12 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 07:08 Calix wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:04 Calix wrote:
Does this basically confirm Xatalos as town due to VCA? Damdred/ disfo, pls chip in here.


By the way, in that case, which of my pushers do you think were scum?


This is something that requires me to look back. Remind me to give a shit about that build-up on you tomorrow.

From votes, Tweedledumb just sitting on disformation when he could have plausibly voted for Xatalos is quite interesting.

Adam looks 'obviously terrible' if you get my drift since he defended Eden a lot. However, that doesn't necessarily mean he's mafia as the 'paranoid townie' theory holds.

Koshi's read progression on you may warrant further investigation.

Nobody else's votes stand out to me right now.


Remember that TW played the "paranoid townie" role EoD1 when Malongo flipped town. Now AMG plays the paranoid townie role D2 and Eden flips mafia.

Meh, I need to think on this and what it could mean for AMG/TW. I can see why Adam might stick his neck out for a teammate and try to put off the lynch for an extra day. But the fact that Eden was Goon kinda counters that


Eden was pretty worthless both as a thread presence and a role. Well, I guess getting one additional mislynch out of him and wasting D3 on him would have still been nice for them. I doubt both remaining scum went hard for me though... One might have. AMG?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 21 2017 22:16 GMT
#2204
On March 22 2017 07:12 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 07:08 Calix wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:04 Calix wrote:
Does this basically confirm Xatalos as town due to VCA? Damdred/ disfo, pls chip in here.


By the way, in that case, which of my pushers do you think were scum?


This is something that requires me to look back. Remind me to give a shit about that build-up on you tomorrow.

From votes, Tweedledumb just sitting on disformation when he could have plausibly voted for Xatalos is quite interesting.

Adam looks 'obviously terrible' if you get my drift since he defended Eden a lot. However, that doesn't necessarily mean he's mafia as the 'paranoid townie' theory holds.

Koshi's read progression on you may warrant further investigation.

Nobody else's votes stand out to me right now.


Remember that TW played the "paranoid townie" role EoD1 when Malongo flipped town. Now AMG plays the paranoid townie role D2 and Eden flips mafia.

Meh, I need to think on this and what it could mean for AMG/TW. I can see why Adam might stick his neck out for a teammate and try to put off the lynch for an extra day. But the fact that Eden was Goon kinda counters that


Just my gut reactiong but I don't think Adam would do that when Eden was kinda 100% today.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 22:16 GMT
#2205
On March 22 2017 07:14 Calix wrote:
I don't think both scummers are on Xatalos either unless the scum team is Koshi/ Adam or rayn is somehow bullshitting beyond all levels of logic.

It's entirely possible that the scum thought "eh, Eden's a lost cause, let's just vote and cut our losses" and that the Xatalos wagon is pure, actually.

both scummers being on xata would be like fairly bad for distancing purposes imo.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 21 2017 22:17 GMT
#2206
Though calix kinda mind melds with me about tumble. So glad I still jab her town.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 22:17 GMT
#2207
All of rayn/Koshi/AMG couldn't be scum in any case
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 22:17 GMT
#2208
last point can be a bit wifomy, but id say its too risky for a teammate hats like super probably dead anyways
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 21 2017 22:18 GMT
#2209
PSA: Asking whether Adam would have the balls to hard-defend a team mate on the day that team mate gets lynched is WIFOM. Scum can do whatever they want with regards to their team mates. It's how he defended Eden that matters.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2017 22:19 GMT
#2210
On March 22 2017 07:16 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 07:12 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:08 Calix wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:04 Calix wrote:
Does this basically confirm Xatalos as town due to VCA? Damdred/ disfo, pls chip in here.


By the way, in that case, which of my pushers do you think were scum?


This is something that requires me to look back. Remind me to give a shit about that build-up on you tomorrow.

From votes, Tweedledumb just sitting on disformation when he could have plausibly voted for Xatalos is quite interesting.

Adam looks 'obviously terrible' if you get my drift since he defended Eden a lot. However, that doesn't necessarily mean he's mafia as the 'paranoid townie' theory holds.

Koshi's read progression on you may warrant further investigation.

Nobody else's votes stand out to me right now.


Remember that TW played the "paranoid townie" role EoD1 when Malongo flipped town. Now AMG plays the paranoid townie role D2 and Eden flips mafia.

Meh, I need to think on this and what it could mean for AMG/TW. I can see why Adam might stick his neck out for a teammate and try to put off the lynch for an extra day. But the fact that Eden was Goon kinda counters that


Eden was pretty worthless both as a thread presence and a role. Well, I guess getting one additional mislynch out of him and wasting D3 on him would have still been nice for them. I doubt both remaining scum went hard for me though... One might have. AMG?


I agree that it's super unlikely that both mafia went after you (if you're town).

If we're in the cop setup, cop has a 50/50 chance of confirming a scum as town if he hits a scum, which is kinda scary. Statistics say it's unlikely, but that would shit.

If vigi setup, use your shot tonight please
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2017 22:21 GMT
#2211
On March 22 2017 07:16 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 07:12 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:08 Calix wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 07:04 Calix wrote:
Does this basically confirm Xatalos as town due to VCA? Damdred/ disfo, pls chip in here.


By the way, in that case, which of my pushers do you think were scum?


This is something that requires me to look back. Remind me to give a shit about that build-up on you tomorrow.

From votes, Tweedledumb just sitting on disformation when he could have plausibly voted for Xatalos is quite interesting.

Adam looks 'obviously terrible' if you get my drift since he defended Eden a lot. However, that doesn't necessarily mean he's mafia as the 'paranoid townie' theory holds.

Koshi's read progression on you may warrant further investigation.

Nobody else's votes stand out to me right now.


Remember that TW played the "paranoid townie" role EoD1 when Malongo flipped town. Now AMG plays the paranoid townie role D2 and Eden flips mafia.

Meh, I need to think on this and what it could mean for AMG/TW. I can see why Adam might stick his neck out for a teammate and try to put off the lynch for an extra day. But the fact that Eden was Goon kinda counters that


Just my gut reactiong but I don't think Adam would do that when Eden was kinda 100% today.


Was he really 100% tho? At one point with less than 4 hours in the day I believe it was like 6-4 Eden-Xata. That's quite close imo and with Eden's voting lying around, who knows.

As I mentioned, today got a lot more interesting than it should've, but it's actually pretty useful that it did. I'll have to go through Eden's filter later and see what I find.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 21 2017 22:22 GMT
#2212
I distinctly remember Eden saying that I spewed disformation as town, lol.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2017 22:23 GMT
#2213
+ Show Spoiler +
waiting for rayn to say he was 100% baiting people on to Xata and that he actually town reads him.

10/10 would nut
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 21 2017 22:24 GMT
#2214
It was like 6-1 or something like that when Adam did his defense though
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 22:25 GMT
#2215
but why didnt he try to get ppl on me then? i think i still had like 3 ppl on me.
instead he calls me and eden town?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 22:26 GMT
#2216
Well we deserved this flip. It was a good day.

I am back to lynching Onegu/Xatalos/AGM/df atm.
Liked what I saw from Eden on disformation. He might be town.
We still can fear read Tumble/Damdred but I feel content now in a world they are town.
Eden flipped goon so VT setup is possible. But unless it is confirmed rayn is conf town. And who are we kidding rayn is town and/or clinically insane.
Calix conf town.

Anyway. We did well. I am proud.
I had a good night of sleep.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 21 2017 22:27 GMT
#2217
Okay so what I got from Eden's filter was this.

- Lots and lots of wankery over how scummy I am.
- Asking disformation about why he 'took his Doctor claim at face value' which didn't really go anyway
- The 'disfo is totes town because mafia Calix spewed him that' post
- A wishy-washy 'read' on Damdred
Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.

As for Damdred, I didn't say that I don't think he's mafia, just that he didn't make an impression one way or another. I'm still not really prepared to say that he isn't, either. Just seems like he's said a lot of words and made a lot of posts, but very little has made a strong impression either way. I'll go and reread his filter and try to develop a more crystallized opinion of him for you though, since that's your wagon for today and I trust your motivations.

- An absurd amount of time spent on explaining why rayn is town because of meta

That's about it, really.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 22:29 GMT
#2218
On March 22 2017 07:25 disformation wrote:
but why didnt he try to get ppl on me then? i think i still had like 3 ppl on me.
instead he calls me and eden town?

mh. might be wifom stuff.
whatever, bed for reals now.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 21 2017 22:29 GMT
#2219
Given that Eden basically plagiarised disformation's reasons for scum-reading me, this might mean that disformation is town after all.

Mafia usually aren't in the business of copying each other's reads/ reasoning that blatantly.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 21 2017 22:30 GMT
#2220
Imo his reaction to disf reaction to his opening post makes disf town just off that. I don't think you would go ham like that on a scum made who had already rehashed that.

But yeah the youbspewing disf town is a nice find.
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