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On March 20 2017 08:22 darthfoley wrote:you're annoying me. Why disformation?
Tell me what disformation has actually done lately.
All of his posts since N1 are extremely boring and you could take them all out without missing anything since there is no notable contribution to the discussion. Even his VCA posts - something he prides himself on - are generic and didn't say anything interesting.
By all means, flag up a post since N1 that is extremely townie or useful. I would like to see it.
In fact, I'm going to vote for him. Again.
##vote disformation
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On March 20 2017 01:58 Damdred wrote: And honestly I am a bit annoyed at not being more town read.
I had a great catch on tumble around eod which is very much scum indicative imo and his explanations still don't do it justice.
Eden seems to be scum to from the way he went about the vote, whatvi said earlier and that post during nightbphase.
Unflipped I know but still.should count for more than just a lean, quet annoying tbh
@rayn
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Also it's quite amazing that even when I point out how useless disformation has been, nobody cares.
Looking for widely-town-read scummer? Check!
Looking for someone who is coasting and saying basically nothing? Check!
Looking for someone who is rarely discussed and who nobody seems to give a shit about? We have a winner!
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BTW I'd like to point out that if rayn is JK and if Damdred is town then ALL of the leading D1 wagons were town.
So unless anyone has a stellar argument for scumdred then it's unlikely that scum would have given a fuck.
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Yes it is. You would have thought that more people would have wanted to mislynch disformation or at least smear his name in discussions. But no, Rels and Onegu come up way more. It's weird.
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Because Tweedledumb is smart and realises that we're all extremely townie?
He took the words out of my mouth with that town circle since that's basically what I've been operating with since N1
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On March 20 2017 08:49 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 08:47 Calix wrote:Because Tweedledumb is smart and realises that we're all extremely townie? He took the words out of my mouth with that town circle since that's basically what I've been operating with since N1  I've come around to the idea that you're probably town, but I also don't want to look like a fool post game so can you explain where the town read on me and Xata comes from?
You'll be disappointed because it's nothing specific. It's just that you two are always trying to push your ideas of a townie agenda whenever you two post in the thread, you two try to keep the discussion rolling and I don't see any overarching scum motivations behind the things that you are doing.
This is extremely vague since I haven't filter-dived you two and don't plan on it for the foreseeable future. It's just an overall impression that is impervious to minor flaws in your postings.
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Well I'm going to bed.
I retract my paranoia for now as an Eden/ disformation/ Rels (or Onegu, but Rels more likely) scum-team is looking increasingly likely. None of them are very influential and it feels like it's the start of some epic town steamroll.
Or maybe I'm just thinking that so that I don't have to put in more effort. I'll see 'when' any of them turn up.
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On March 20 2017 16:39 darthfoley wrote: Hope I wake up to 4 new pages of activity. It's more fun that way
Good joke. Where the hell did Eden/ Rels go? lol
On March 20 2017 15:51 Xatalos wrote: Hmm... thinking further about rayn's claim... I'm starting to get more suspicious.
Let's consider the possibilities.
1) VT - no way in hell. He'd be strongly playing against his win condition, baiting a counter-claim.
2) JK - plausible, but statistically quite unlikely (around 5%). More importantly, if this is the case, there is also a Roleblocker. This means rayn just ruined his crucial role forever from a little pressure. Is this townie play?
3) Mafia - quite plausible. As scum, he would know the setup. If there is no true JK, he can claim being roleblocked and push his agenda freely until LYLO. If there is a counter-claim, well, he's baited out the JK. But I'd expect him to claim later in the day in that case, now that plan is a bit too premature.
All in all.. I'd put his chances of being scum higher than town, probably, considering the motivations and statistics in each case.. hm
Yes but the fact is that rayn will be outed as scum if he lives for long enough or if nobody else claims TPR down the line. I don't see the problem for now if we just let him do whatever
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I mean, if anyone outside of the four people I mentioned earlier are mafia (excluding rayn because of TPR claim) then they are playing one hell of a game right now.
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disformation, that was an extremely lame OMGUS (again, lol) and the fact that you put more effort into defending yourself than you have into doing anything else is not helping you.
Not to mention that claiming I called you mafia because Koshi put you in his shit-list without explanation (???) is the most retarded argument in the thread.
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But congratulations on actually turning up! You're doing better than your team mates already
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On March 20 2017 17:40 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 17:38 Calix wrote: disformation, that was an extremely lame OMGUS (again, lol) and the fact that you put more effort into defending yourself than you have into doing anything else is not helping you.
Not to mention that claiming I called you mafia because Koshi put you in his shit-list without explanation (???) is the most retarded argument in the thread. No. You are lock scum to me. You pushed me most of D1 and then did nothing. N1 you only argue around a bit, but basically do nothing. PPL call you out on doing nothing you push me again.
So I'm only 'lock scum' after I push you again? K
Tell me what YOU'VE done this game. Go on, I'll wait.
I can't wait to see how you can accuse me of 'basically doing nothing' when your filter is 90% defending, going along with thread sentiment and fluff posts. The irony is extremely high right now.
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Also I don't give a shit if Rels once pushed you as scum because as you might have noticed, I'M NOT RELS.
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On March 20 2017 17:45 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 17:43 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 17:40 disformation wrote:On March 20 2017 17:38 Calix wrote: disformation, that was an extremely lame OMGUS (again, lol) and the fact that you put more effort into defending yourself than you have into doing anything else is not helping you.
Not to mention that claiming I called you mafia because Koshi put you in his shit-list without explanation (???) is the most retarded argument in the thread. No. You are lock scum to me. You pushed me most of D1 and then did nothing. N1 you only argue around a bit, but basically do nothing. PPL call you out on doing nothing you push me again. So I'm only 'lock scum' after I push you again? K Tell me what YOU'VE done this game. Go on, I'll wait. I can't wait to see how you can accuse me of 'basically doing nothing' when your filter is 90% defending, going along with thread sentiment and fluff posts. The irony is extremely high right now. isnt telling you what ive done this game even more defending?  and going along with the thread sentiment is extremely nai for me, as anyone who ever played with you can tell very easily.
LOL, YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL US WHAT YOU'VE ACHIEVED.
And you have what, 8? 9? pages of filter at this point. Holy shit, do I need to summarise it for you? Because it won't be pretty, mate.
Ooh, NAI. That's kinda my point. You have not done anything 'townie' this game, just things which don't 'look' scummy on the surface. But under that, there's nothing. You're so forgettable that it's not even funny.
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As a side note, I don't see why I constantly get flak for putting a lot of effort into defending my town-reads and ""not scum-hunting"".
Anyone who actually knows my meta would realise I do that every single game because that's how I play. It means absolutely nothing for my alignment as I have reasons to do it as town and mafia.
#selfmeta
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On March 20 2017 17:56 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 17:47 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 17:45 disformation wrote:On March 20 2017 17:43 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 17:40 disformation wrote:On March 20 2017 17:38 Calix wrote: disformation, that was an extremely lame OMGUS (again, lol) and the fact that you put more effort into defending yourself than you have into doing anything else is not helping you.
Not to mention that claiming I called you mafia because Koshi put you in his shit-list without explanation (???) is the most retarded argument in the thread. No. You are lock scum to me. You pushed me most of D1 and then did nothing. N1 you only argue around a bit, but basically do nothing. PPL call you out on doing nothing you push me again. So I'm only 'lock scum' after I push you again? K Tell me what YOU'VE done this game. Go on, I'll wait. I can't wait to see how you can accuse me of 'basically doing nothing' when your filter is 90% defending, going along with thread sentiment and fluff posts. The irony is extremely high right now. isnt telling you what ive done this game even more defending?  and going along with the thread sentiment is extremely nai for me, as anyone who ever played with you can tell very easily. LOL, YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL US WHAT YOU'VE ACHIEVED. And you have what, 8? 9? pages of filter at this point. Holy shit, do I need to summarise it for you? Because it won't be pretty, mate. Ooh, NAI. That's kinda my point. You have not done anything 'townie' this game, just things which don't 'look' scummy on the surface. But under that, there's nothing. You're so forgettable that it's not even funny. lol what the fuck do you expect me to say? I tried to figure out ppl alignments and talk to ppl in thread? and then get "lol your posts are boring" or ppl who didnt even read them? or that i had to spend a fuckton of time d1 explaining a throwaway post i made early on?
I'd expect you to at least know what impact you've had on the game or what original contributions you've made and if you can't do that then you're mafia and can die.
And yes, your posts are shamefully dull. It's my tried and tested heuristic. Townies are interesting and proactive. Mafia are bland and passive. You are the textbook example of the second. It's like HTS in Dark Tournament (if we're going to cross-reference players )
You didn't 'have to' spend a load of time talking about it. You made that choice...at the expense of anything else Nice deflecting of responsibility for your own actions when you could have just told Xatalos and co to fuck right off and then blow them away with ACTUAL scum-hunting.
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On March 20 2017 17:57 disformation wrote: if it turns out to be koshi/eden/calix imma be fairly pissed.
See, this doesn't make any sense. That means 2/3 of the mafia are actually playing the game, for starters. And why would you be pissed that the 'mafia' are trying to 'mislynch' you? lol
And since when was Koshi scum? Please show your working.
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BTW Koshi, I remember you said something about how 'four people entered the thread and didn't take a stance on disformation' - can you remember who those people were again?
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On March 20 2017 18:08 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 18:01 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 17:56 disformation wrote:On March 20 2017 17:47 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 17:45 disformation wrote:On March 20 2017 17:43 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 17:40 disformation wrote:On March 20 2017 17:38 Calix wrote: disformation, that was an extremely lame OMGUS (again, lol) and the fact that you put more effort into defending yourself than you have into doing anything else is not helping you.
Not to mention that claiming I called you mafia because Koshi put you in his shit-list without explanation (???) is the most retarded argument in the thread. No. You are lock scum to me. You pushed me most of D1 and then did nothing. N1 you only argue around a bit, but basically do nothing. PPL call you out on doing nothing you push me again. So I'm only 'lock scum' after I push you again? K Tell me what YOU'VE done this game. Go on, I'll wait. I can't wait to see how you can accuse me of 'basically doing nothing' when your filter is 90% defending, going along with thread sentiment and fluff posts. The irony is extremely high right now. isnt telling you what ive done this game even more defending?  and going along with the thread sentiment is extremely nai for me, as anyone who ever played with you can tell very easily. LOL, YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL US WHAT YOU'VE ACHIEVED. And you have what, 8? 9? pages of filter at this point. Holy shit, do I need to summarise it for you? Because it won't be pretty, mate. Ooh, NAI. That's kinda my point. You have not done anything 'townie' this game, just things which don't 'look' scummy on the surface. But under that, there's nothing. You're so forgettable that it's not even funny. lol what the fuck do you expect me to say? I tried to figure out ppl alignments and talk to ppl in thread? and then get "lol your posts are boring" or ppl who didnt even read them? or that i had to spend a fuckton of time d1 explaining a throwaway post i made early on? I'd expect you to at least know what impact you've had on the game or what original contributions you've made and if you can't do that then you're mafia and can die. And yes, your posts are shamefully dull. It's my tried and tested heuristic. Townies are interesting and proactive. Mafia are bland and passive. You are the textbook example of the second. It's like HTS in Dark Tournament (if we're going to cross-reference players  ) You didn't 'have to' spend a load of time talking about it. You made that choice...at the expense of anything else  Nice deflecting of responsibility for your own actions when you could have just told Xatalos and co to fuck right off and then blow them away with ACTUAL scum-hunting. Welcome to town!disformation. Thanks for describing my town meta and say that is scum. You could also have attempted a meta read on me, since i was scum together with hats in dark tournament. and thats not how i work @ xata. in the same way that i keep arguing with you instead of doing work.
Oh give me a break with your meta references. I don't give a shit about meta analysis when your play this game is exactly what mafia in this situation would do.
Telling me "oh it's my town meta" instead of actually showing me that you're town via your actions is incredibly mafia, actually.
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