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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 16 2017 23:25 GMT
#181
On March 17 2017 08:21 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:18 Damdred wrote:
Pst koshi you violating your 92 hour rule bro


I actually think he could be town for that.

Only because it's like he can't help but post ITT even when he doesn't want to and scum generally don't have that impulse

But I can't tell whether this read is bullshit or brilliant -.-


Its a decent thought, I thought it to so we will just call it good.

Could scum koshi do it maybe. But it might be safe to say town atm...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 16 2017 23:25 GMT
#182
On March 17 2017 07:59 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Koshi is probably town by the way.

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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:25 GMT
#183
DeepBlue seems to have a pretty cohesive/townie thought process so...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
DeepBlueSea89
Profile Joined March 2017
18 Posts
March 16 2017 23:26 GMT
#184
On March 17 2017 08:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:18 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:10 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:09 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Ok so since dis going to go for a bit.

I think xata and cal are both town right now.

Deepblue is moving towards scummy territory with the fearless read of koshi being town for no real reason I guess?

Probable scum post.


Why?

It just seemed like an easy jump and the thought process felt shallow.

Here's how I see it:
1. Scum typically lurk (at least more often than not) and I've scumread people in the past who answer irrelevant fluff questions without participating in the major discussion in the thread at the time especially early on in the game.
2. Koshi asked me a question.
3. I ignore everything else (the discussion between Xatalos and Damdred for instance) and respond to that pretty much instantly.
4. This shows I was reading the thread and refreshing it fairly often even if I'm not commenting. That's more often than not something scum do although there were extenuating circumstances here.
5. Koshi picked up on it and asked why I was lurking. That showed me he was on the lookout for possible scum even outside the major thread of discussion. So, I think he's probably town. It's not solid but that's the best read I have this early on.
6. Damdred I think missed the subtext entirely. He just threw out a shallow read "oh, he's appeasing someone who engaged him so he could be scum." It's just an easy read on someone he thinks would be an easy target. He doesn't really wonder why I townread Koshi or even straight up ask me.

Why are you townreading Damdred?

Join us. Vote Damdred.

I'm a little confused by the voting system here. Why are people voting in thread when there's a separate thread specifically for voting? Am I supposed to vote in both threads?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 16 2017 23:26 GMT
#185
On March 17 2017 08:24 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Also, Damdred applying newb-scumtells like "appeasing someone who engaged him" to me right after I said I played mafia for several years also seems a bit too simplistic.


What is up with people putting words in people's mouths when they didn't say them?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:26 GMT
#186
lolrayn
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 16 2017 23:27 GMT
#187
Yeah, you're all on the wrong D

disformation is where it's at. He was on the defensive the entire time while everyone else hasn't been once they've climbed out of their shells.

(this was kinda why I wanted Koshi's take on the disfo/ Xat/ DD thing but oh well)
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:27 GMT
#188
On March 17 2017 08:26 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:24 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:18 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:10 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:09 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Ok so since dis going to go for a bit.

I think xata and cal are both town right now.

Deepblue is moving towards scummy territory with the fearless read of koshi being town for no real reason I guess?

Probable scum post.


Why?

It just seemed like an easy jump and the thought process felt shallow.

Here's how I see it:
1. Scum typically lurk (at least more often than not) and I've scumread people in the past who answer irrelevant fluff questions without participating in the major discussion in the thread at the time especially early on in the game.
2. Koshi asked me a question.
3. I ignore everything else (the discussion between Xatalos and Damdred for instance) and respond to that pretty much instantly.
4. This shows I was reading the thread and refreshing it fairly often even if I'm not commenting. That's more often than not something scum do although there were extenuating circumstances here.
5. Koshi picked up on it and asked why I was lurking. That showed me he was on the lookout for possible scum even outside the major thread of discussion. So, I think he's probably town. It's not solid but that's the best read I have this early on.
6. Damdred I think missed the subtext entirely. He just threw out a shallow read "oh, he's appeasing someone who engaged him so he could be scum." It's just an easy read on someone he thinks would be an easy target. He doesn't really wonder why I townread Koshi or even straight up ask me.

Why are you townreading Damdred?

Join us. Vote Damdred.

I'm a little confused by the voting system here. Why are people voting in thread when there's a separate thread specifically for voting? Am I supposed to vote in both threads?


It's completely optional to vote in the actual thread. Only votes in the voting thread count.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 16 2017 23:28 GMT
#189
On March 17 2017 08:26 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:24 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:18 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:10 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:09 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Ok so since dis going to go for a bit.

I think xata and cal are both town right now.

Deepblue is moving towards scummy territory with the fearless read of koshi being town for no real reason I guess?

Probable scum post.


Why?

It just seemed like an easy jump and the thought process felt shallow.

Here's how I see it:
1. Scum typically lurk (at least more often than not) and I've scumread people in the past who answer irrelevant fluff questions without participating in the major discussion in the thread at the time especially early on in the game.
2. Koshi asked me a question.
3. I ignore everything else (the discussion between Xatalos and Damdred for instance) and respond to that pretty much instantly.
4. This shows I was reading the thread and refreshing it fairly often even if I'm not commenting. That's more often than not something scum do although there were extenuating circumstances here.
5. Koshi picked up on it and asked why I was lurking. That showed me he was on the lookout for possible scum even outside the major thread of discussion. So, I think he's probably town. It's not solid but that's the best read I have this early on.
6. Damdred I think missed the subtext entirely. He just threw out a shallow read "oh, he's appeasing someone who engaged him so he could be scum." It's just an easy read on someone he thinks would be an easy target. He doesn't really wonder why I townread Koshi or even straight up ask me.

Why are you townreading Damdred?

Join us. Vote Damdred.

I'm a little confused by the voting system here. Why are people voting in thread when there's a separate thread specifically for voting? Am I supposed to vote in both threads?

You need to vote in the voting thread for it to "count". In this thread we also vote because it shows your thought process when we reread filters later.
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:29 GMT
#190
Damdred is always scum anyway
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:31 GMT
#191
But yeah, the other D seems more promising.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
DeepBlueSea89
Profile Joined March 2017
18 Posts
March 16 2017 23:32 GMT
#192
On March 17 2017 08:26 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:24 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Also, Damdred applying newb-scumtells like "appeasing someone who engaged him" to me right after I said I played mafia for several years also seems a bit too simplistic.


What is up with people putting words in people's mouths when they didn't say them?

My mistake. You said "fearless read on Koshi for no real reason." Calix was the one who said "try to appease someone engaging with him."

I find both of these things pretty shallow actually. What did you imagine my reason was?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 16 2017 23:36 GMT
#193
On March 17 2017 08:32 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:26 Damdred wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:24 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Also, Damdred applying newb-scumtells like "appeasing someone who engaged him" to me right after I said I played mafia for several years also seems a bit too simplistic.


What is up with people putting words in people's mouths when they didn't say them?

My mistake. You said "fearless read on Koshi for no real reason." Calix was the one who said "try to appease someone engaging with him."

I find both of these things pretty shallow actually. What did you imagine my reason was?


If you are scum it would be tmi hehe.

As for I you were town, the motivation with a one liner would be harder to ascertain in that situation. Initial thought would be koshi was being to much of a dick to be scum with his I won't do anything shtick
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:37 GMT
#194
I can see the "fearless read on Koshi for no real reason" coming from town though. Because scum like to throw random (light) townreads around to appear as they're doing something when they're really not... But falter when asked to explain any good reasons. That just doesn't really apply here since DeepB has explained well all his random assertions.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
DeepBlueSea89
Profile Joined March 2017
18 Posts
March 16 2017 23:38 GMT
#195
On March 17 2017 08:36 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:32 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:26 Damdred wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:24 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Also, Damdred applying newb-scumtells like "appeasing someone who engaged him" to me right after I said I played mafia for several years also seems a bit too simplistic.


What is up with people putting words in people's mouths when they didn't say them?

My mistake. You said "fearless read on Koshi for no real reason." Calix was the one who said "try to appease someone engaging with him."

I find both of these things pretty shallow actually. What did you imagine my reason was?


If you are scum it would be tmi hehe.

As for I you were town, the motivation with a one liner would be harder to ascertain in that situation. Initial thought would be koshi was being to much of a dick to be scum with his I won't do anything shtick

So, what's the scum motive to post an early read? And if you can see a potential town reason I'd townread Koshi as town, why would posting that read move me into scum territory?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 16 2017 23:41 GMT
#196
FWIW I feel like this entire discussion is pure so I cannot be arsed to contribute much until something new happens.

It's not really based on filter-diving or whatever. I just feel like everyone who is talking right now is posting without an agenda and is just saying what they have so far and is being reasonable and helping the town.

So imo we shouldn't lynch among Xat/ DD/ Koshi/ Blue today.

Does this sound really premature? Maybe but that's my impressions of the 'atmosphere' of the game so far so I'm pretty confident here. Don't feel like the chat is very mafia-influenced right now.

If this doesn't make sense then ask away. I feel like a hippie right now xD
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 16 2017 23:43 GMT
#197
On March 17 2017 08:38 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:36 Damdred wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:32 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:26 Damdred wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:24 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Also, Damdred applying newb-scumtells like "appeasing someone who engaged him" to me right after I said I played mafia for several years also seems a bit too simplistic.


What is up with people putting words in people's mouths when they didn't say them?

My mistake. You said "fearless read on Koshi for no real reason." Calix was the one who said "try to appease someone engaging with him."

I find both of these things pretty shallow actually. What did you imagine my reason was?


If you are scum it would be tmi hehe.

As for I you were town, the motivation with a one liner would be harder to ascertain in that situation. Initial thought would be koshi was being to much of a dick to be scum with his I won't do anything shtick

So, what's the scum motive to post an early read? And if you can see a potential town reason I'd townread Koshi as town, why would posting that read move me into scum territory?


There's tons of scum reasons to do it. To look active, to get on a players good sside. Tohave actual reads in your filter to look better.

Because the light logic read that has nothing behind it ttn the thread is more likely to come from nervous mafia than town. (Generally)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 16 2017 23:45 GMT
#198
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:46 GMT
#199
On March 17 2017 08:41 Calix wrote:
FWIW I feel like this entire discussion is pure so I cannot be arsed to contribute much until something new happens.

It's not really based on filter-diving or whatever. I just feel like everyone who is talking right now is posting without an agenda and is just saying what they have so far and is being reasonable and helping the town.

So imo we shouldn't lynch among Xat/ DD/ Koshi/ Blue today.

Does this sound really premature? Maybe but that's my impressions of the 'atmosphere' of the game so far so I'm pretty confident here. Don't feel like the chat is very mafia-influenced right now.

If this doesn't make sense then ask away. I feel like a hippie right now xD


No, that's mostly what I felt as well. Only disformation felt a bit out of place so far. Dunno about rayn yet since he only trolled for now.

Damdred is my eternal suspect, but at least I don't see any good reason for lynching him at this point. I'll let you know when I have one
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:47 GMT
#200
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.


Which ones?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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