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On February 09 2017 23:51 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2017 23:47 Vivax wrote:
Tinfoil time:
Could it be super + sharkie are both spy and the reason they passed the first mission was that their only out was to both scumread swika, so when the second mission failed their only out is to scumread me? I'd guess you mean grack+me, not super? If that were the case I am pretty sure one of us would have played the total scapegoat and the other the loyal resistance player...
No cause you'd still have passed the first mission and there was no reason to.
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On February 09 2017 23:57 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2017 23:56 Silverika wrote:On February 09 2017 23:33 sharkie wrote:On February 09 2017 23:26 Silverika wrote:On February 09 2017 23:21 sharkie wrote:On February 09 2017 23:18 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 09 2017 23:14 sharkie wrote:
Since I am running out of people to add in the team, currently if I had to nominate a team I'd propose: RtaniSoul/Sharkie/Silverika/Super
I cannot add vivax as he is my prime suspect and if I add Grack the team won't happen anyway. And out of all lazy players super seems the most likely candidate for resistance I guess? How certain are you that Vivax is the spy over Grack? 70-30 that vivax is spy and not Grack for me. I can understand your and silver's arguments from your point of views. They just don't fit with mine... On February 09 2017 23:19 Silverika wrote:
sharkie you realize you can go back and read the games that vivax has been in instead of complaining about your lack of info/meta?
also grack whats the status of reading those scum games of ours have you reached a conclusion yet? I am not complaining about a lack of info/meta. I am complaining that you two read too much into past games... why should we not? if there is a treand that someone has over games that they show why should it not be used? the thing that someone already said is that meta is the use of what one subconsciously does so for them to fake it as scum they must first be aware of the said thing and then consciously do/not do it. ever play poker? real question it will help in anlogy format cus i feel like you are missing what we are saying Well you used meta a few days ago to put vivax/grack on the resistance side and me on the spy side. Clearly that did not work as you had hoped it would be. If you had been wrong once, why not wrong twice? After such a 180 from Grack (which you clearly would have never expected), why is not that not liable for vivax? Sharkie, if you keep assigning motives to us that are not true, I'm gonna drop my townread on you pretty quickly. We were NOT hoping things would work out any certain way. You keep throwing this out there and twisting it. We re-evaluated our read on you and Rtani Soul and have explained it very thoroughly so just stop with the subtle jabs unless you want to start calling us a spy, then come at me bro directly. None of this pussyfooting around garbage. ~SW Where the heck am I accusing you ever of being a spy? O.O
UNLESS YOU WANT TO START CALLING US A SPY
Basically, ika and I feel like you are going to great lengths to discredit us and I fail to see the reasoning for it if you don't spy read us.
Like where is your town motivation in this?
~SW
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You know what?
Sharkie and Grack can both stay off any mission going forward and I'll be happy.
I'm done here for awhile.
~SW
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On February 10 2017 00:05 Silverika wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2017 23:57 sharkie wrote:On February 09 2017 23:56 Silverika wrote:On February 09 2017 23:33 sharkie wrote:On February 09 2017 23:26 Silverika wrote:On February 09 2017 23:21 sharkie wrote:On February 09 2017 23:18 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 09 2017 23:14 sharkie wrote:
Since I am running out of people to add in the team, currently if I had to nominate a team I'd propose: RtaniSoul/Sharkie/Silverika/Super
I cannot add vivax as he is my prime suspect and if I add Grack the team won't happen anyway. And out of all lazy players super seems the most likely candidate for resistance I guess? How certain are you that Vivax is the spy over Grack? 70-30 that vivax is spy and not Grack for me. I can understand your and silver's arguments from your point of views. They just don't fit with mine... On February 09 2017 23:19 Silverika wrote:
sharkie you realize you can go back and read the games that vivax has been in instead of complaining about your lack of info/meta?
also grack whats the status of reading those scum games of ours have you reached a conclusion yet? I am not complaining about a lack of info/meta. I am complaining that you two read too much into past games... why should we not? if there is a treand that someone has over games that they show why should it not be used? the thing that someone already said is that meta is the use of what one subconsciously does so for them to fake it as scum they must first be aware of the said thing and then consciously do/not do it. ever play poker? real question it will help in anlogy format cus i feel like you are missing what we are saying Well you used meta a few days ago to put vivax/grack on the resistance side and me on the spy side. Clearly that did not work as you had hoped it would be. If you had been wrong once, why not wrong twice? After such a 180 from Grack (which you clearly would have never expected), why is not that not liable for vivax? Sharkie, if you keep assigning motives to us that are not true, I'm gonna drop my townread on you pretty quickly. We were NOT hoping things would work out any certain way. You keep throwing this out there and twisting it. We re-evaluated our read on you and Rtani Soul and have explained it very thoroughly so just stop with the subtle jabs unless you want to start calling us a spy, then come at me bro directly. None of this pussyfooting around garbage. ~SW Where the heck am I accusing you ever of being a spy? O.O UNLESS YOU WANT TO START CALLING US A SPY Basically, ika and I feel like you are going to great lengths to discredit us and I fail to see the reasoning for it if you don't spy read us. Like where is your town motivation in this? ~SW
I am not discrediting you. I make it official right now and here. I am not trying anything with you.
I just want you to see my way of thinking. Can you? If yes then we have no problem except that we agree to disagree with our two views.
My resistance motivation behind this is to avoid having vivax on a team again. Which he seems to be fine with anyway?
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Silver, what do you believe his spy motivation for that is? Both Vivax and Grack are pretty spy-read by different players, meaning he'd be in a much better position not picking a needless fight with you.
From where I'm sitting, the most likely motivation is stubbornness with a healthy dosis of righteousness, which I'd generally see as resistance traits.
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I do however understand your frustration.
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Sharkie who is spy with me?
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I'm at emc/Grack/superbia
Or Grack/you/superbia atm.
SL has earned himself a yolo townread from me. But don't ask me why it's all guts.
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On February 10 2017 00:17 Vivax wrote:
Sharkie who is spy with me?
The two worst players of the game
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i should pretend i'm not amused by the amount of miscommunication i'm reading >>
i really should >>
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On February 09 2017 21:41 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:
I think EC is a spy because he never takes a hard stand on anything. Most of his comments are very blendy and he doesn't stick out on anything.
Rtani Soul is very Town. Not only because of the amount of analysis in the game, but the tone of the posting, the level of frustration, and they make no sense as scum with anyone on the failed mission.
I thought Grack would never fail a mission with sharkie there to take the fall but I'm gonna stop using this kind of stuff to analyze and actually filter dive grack more. There are things from sharkie and Vivax that look pretty Town so I can't write either of them off as spies.
Also, I want to look at that old resistance game so many of you were in. Will do this in a little bit-filter dive grack and look at that game.
~SilverWolf77
Hmm your first two sentences are false. I stood up for my initial team, I stood up against 1 scum on the initial 3, I stood up for super as town, now I'm pretty sure that vivax is town. just nobody cared when the first mission passed, until the second one failed. Show nested quote +On February 08 2017 21:54 RtaniSoul wrote:
EC, who do you currently think is mafia? ugh fuck, vivax looks like town to me, same with super still. You're maybe town, unfortunately. sharkie thinking vivax is mafia is logical to me, but I don't see vivax as scum here. silver still town. between sharkie and grack, grack probably town. I didn't really like his crazy theory of rtani and vivax. I can see the basis, but I think it's more likely grack mafia then rtani/vivax. hmm sl I kinda liked his list. I think it's right to exclude grack/sharkie, but I don't trust sl himself. His game position is such that he can just sack himself on the next mission. I think I'm still rolling with sharkie/sl/ +1. +1 is probably tumble, with a pretty outside chance of rtani. sharkie is maaaybe grack, but I think the others are less likely imo.
It is very difficult for me not to call you mafia for believing we're "maybe town" when Vivax said we're an easy townread.
Vivax.
Vivax.
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Oh wait Vivax only reads me town when I'm scum, shit
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On February 10 2017 00:19 sharkie wrote:The two worst players of the game
Sorry I'm just really trying to figure out for a day who you would actually send on a mission cause all I see is you being completely hung up on this grack/me thingy.
On February 09 2017 01:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2017 00:47 sharkie wrote:
What is wrong with you all?
Suddenly Grack is everyone's favourite guy to hit upon? How can anyone turn from most trusted guy (wanted on the team by literally everyone) to the dumping ground of mistrust. And the most surprising thing out of all is how vivax and RT totally forgot their vendetta with each other and suddenly are best buddies (not saying that both of them are spies). I don't think I have ever seen anyone jump up so high in trust as vivax did while being in a failed mission.
Everyone can imagine Grack being the mastermind from the shadows, manipulating everyone from day one. Yesterday most didn't even bother listening to what I was saying how good spies don't play it the conventional way and you believed that I have to be obvious spy 100% (with the exception of RT). If you can consider Grack being a spy then surely silver can be a spy too (not saying that they are but has to be kept in mind). Way too many people are ganging up on Grack (math wise).
Also I even read how SL could be a possible resistance player, now that is one thing I cannot imagine at all. That guy doesn't care one bit about what is happening in the game. He doesn't even know who was sent out for the second mission..
Now I expect I get shit for defending Grack just like RT did yesterday for defending me... who would you sub in instead of me and if it fails, who is the spy?
Also this.
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On February 10 2017 00:19 Vivax wrote:
I'm at emc/Grack/superbia
Or Grack/you/superbia atm.
SL has earned himself a yolo townread from me. But don't ask me why it's all guts.
where do you stand on tumble, viva? i notice he's not on there as lex was very annoyingly pointing out, which would imply you think he's town, but we don't have a similar read on tumble (or any certainty of anything at all regarding him lol ><) so why? i'd say what lex already told me he thinks your reason is but i'd rather hear it from you than assume ^^
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On February 10 2017 00:21 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 00:19 Vivax wrote:
I'm at emc/Grack/superbia
Or Grack/you/superbia atm.
SL has earned himself a yolo townread from me. But don't ask me why it's all guts. where do you stand on tumble, viva? i notice he's not on there as lex was very annoyingly pointing out, which would imply you think he's town, but we don't have a similar read on tumble (or any certainty of anything at all regarding him lol ><) so why? i'd say what lex already told me he thinks your reason is but i'd rather hear it from you than assume ^^
Old reasons: He has me successfully pocketed by calling me and swika super town all the time. His lists don't look too shabby. Bad reasons but those were the reasons.
Reasons after I checked his filter again:
Also he lacks self promotion, he just kinda sits there hoping to get picked up without pushing himself while analyzing the game from his PoV.
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hm, thanks. i wish that was enough to convince us lol >< assuming you're right on his alignment, anyway
guess we'll have to not be lazy and figure it out for ourselves ^^
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On February 10 2017 00:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 00:19 sharkie wrote:On February 10 2017 00:17 Vivax wrote:
Sharkie who is spy with me? The two worst players of the game Sorry I'm just really trying to figure out for a day who you would actually send on a mission cause all I see is you being completely hung up on this grack/me thingy. Show nested quote +On February 09 2017 01:18 Vivax wrote:On February 09 2017 00:47 sharkie wrote:
What is wrong with you all?
Suddenly Grack is everyone's favourite guy to hit upon? How can anyone turn from most trusted guy (wanted on the team by literally everyone) to the dumping ground of mistrust. And the most surprising thing out of all is how vivax and RT totally forgot their vendetta with each other and suddenly are best buddies (not saying that both of them are spies). I don't think I have ever seen anyone jump up so high in trust as vivax did while being in a failed mission.
Everyone can imagine Grack being the mastermind from the shadows, manipulating everyone from day one. Yesterday most didn't even bother listening to what I was saying how good spies don't play it the conventional way and you believed that I have to be obvious spy 100% (with the exception of RT). If you can consider Grack being a spy then surely silver can be a spy too (not saying that they are but has to be kept in mind). Way too many people are ganging up on Grack (math wise).
Also I even read how SL could be a possible resistance player, now that is one thing I cannot imagine at all. That guy doesn't care one bit about what is happening in the game. He doesn't even know who was sent out for the second mission..
Now I expect I get shit for defending Grack just like RT did yesterday for defending me... who would you sub in instead of me and if it fails, who is the spy? Also this.
I am sorry I am just fed up atm because silver is totally misunderstanding me...
I did answer both your questions you know? Who I would sub instead of you and also who I would send out for the next team...
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On February 10 2017 00:32 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 00:21 Vivax wrote:On February 10 2017 00:19 sharkie wrote:On February 10 2017 00:17 Vivax wrote:
Sharkie who is spy with me? The two worst players of the game Sorry I'm just really trying to figure out for a day who you would actually send on a mission cause all I see is you being completely hung up on this grack/me thingy. On February 09 2017 01:18 Vivax wrote:On February 09 2017 00:47 sharkie wrote:
What is wrong with you all?
Suddenly Grack is everyone's favourite guy to hit upon? How can anyone turn from most trusted guy (wanted on the team by literally everyone) to the dumping ground of mistrust. And the most surprising thing out of all is how vivax and RT totally forgot their vendetta with each other and suddenly are best buddies (not saying that both of them are spies). I don't think I have ever seen anyone jump up so high in trust as vivax did while being in a failed mission.
Everyone can imagine Grack being the mastermind from the shadows, manipulating everyone from day one. Yesterday most didn't even bother listening to what I was saying how good spies don't play it the conventional way and you believed that I have to be obvious spy 100% (with the exception of RT). If you can consider Grack being a spy then surely silver can be a spy too (not saying that they are but has to be kept in mind). Way too many people are ganging up on Grack (math wise).
Also I even read how SL could be a possible resistance player, now that is one thing I cannot imagine at all. That guy doesn't care one bit about what is happening in the game. He doesn't even know who was sent out for the second mission..
Now I expect I get shit for defending Grack just like RT did yesterday for defending me... who would you sub in instead of me and if it fails, who is the spy? Also this. I am sorry I am just fed up atm because silver is totally misunderstanding me... I did answer both your questions you know? Who I would sub instead of you and also who I would send out for the next team...
Well I might be missing it but I have no idea who your suggestion for team spy is.
Me/?/?
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On February 10 2017 00:36 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 00:32 sharkie wrote:On February 10 2017 00:21 Vivax wrote:On February 10 2017 00:19 sharkie wrote:On February 10 2017 00:17 Vivax wrote:
Sharkie who is spy with me? The two worst players of the game Sorry I'm just really trying to figure out for a day who you would actually send on a mission cause all I see is you being completely hung up on this grack/me thingy. On February 09 2017 01:18 Vivax wrote:On February 09 2017 00:47 sharkie wrote:
What is wrong with you all?
Suddenly Grack is everyone's favourite guy to hit upon? How can anyone turn from most trusted guy (wanted on the team by literally everyone) to the dumping ground of mistrust. And the most surprising thing out of all is how vivax and RT totally forgot their vendetta with each other and suddenly are best buddies (not saying that both of them are spies). I don't think I have ever seen anyone jump up so high in trust as vivax did while being in a failed mission.
Everyone can imagine Grack being the mastermind from the shadows, manipulating everyone from day one. Yesterday most didn't even bother listening to what I was saying how good spies don't play it the conventional way and you believed that I have to be obvious spy 100% (with the exception of RT). If you can consider Grack being a spy then surely silver can be a spy too (not saying that they are but has to be kept in mind). Way too many people are ganging up on Grack (math wise).
Also I even read how SL could be a possible resistance player, now that is one thing I cannot imagine at all. That guy doesn't care one bit about what is happening in the game. He doesn't even know who was sent out for the second mission..
Now I expect I get shit for defending Grack just like RT did yesterday for defending me... who would you sub in instead of me and if it fails, who is the spy? Also this. I am sorry I am just fed up atm because silver is totally misunderstanding me... I did answer both your questions you know? Who I would sub instead of you and also who I would send out for the next team... Well I might be missing it but I have no idea who your suggestion for team spy is. Me/?/?
EC asked me that yesterday and my answer hasn't changed yet.
EC or TL / vivax / SL
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Since I am running out of people to add in the team, currently if I had to nominate a team I'd propose: RtaniSoul/Sharkie/Silverika/Super
This is the closest I find to you actually broadening your horizon in this game.
It leaves the following open:
Why not TW?
Why not SL?
Why not emc?
Why is super resistance?
Can you cook up a team without yourself in it?
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