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On February 02 2017 09:37 Silverika wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 09:04 sicklucker wrote:On February 02 2017 07:06 Silverika wrote:
great game guys, really fun, having a blast here
why are you mad? now you get to pick a team... scummy mc scum scum Yeah, cuz as scum I'd be mad if we had yet another rejected team and it had to come to us. I really hope you aren't town and this bad. ~SilverWolf77
you shouldnt be mad as either alignment you have all the power... which is why your actions make no sense. its amazing really
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silvers so mad at me and it does not make anysense. like it has to be fake rage right? wtf did I even do
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On February 02 2017 21:55 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 21:32 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 02 2017 21:18 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't really understand why rtani is scum reading me so much for wanting me to value their opinion over mine. Sharkie seemingly has a bone to pick with me for reasons which seem pretty nebulous and won't answer any questions of mine lol. sharkie/ika/grack is OK for same reasons that tumble could replace sharkie.
I dunno I think we should just do vivax/ika/grack, I feel fairly comfortable with that Can you tell me what happened that caused these doubts On February 01 2017 04:48 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm mostly worried since tumble and super aren't in thread and there's like 2 hrs till deadline.
On both Super who didn't post anything of substance and Tumble who didn't post anything whilst Grack posted good shit like On February 01 2017 05:43 Grackaroni wrote:I don't want to be too WIFOMy so I'll break this up into 3 possible scenarios and you can choose which one you think is the most likely scenario. Either: 1) Silver/Super/Tumblewood are all town. The 3 people who are most in favor of the Super/Tumble/Silver team are also town. (1st choice given by Vivax/EC/Artisoul). In this scenario the game is basically solved. The scum team is Me/Sharkie/Sicklucker and we completely flopped, while the entire town was able to effectively coalesce around a town team. + Show Spoiler + Latest team suggestionsOn January 31 2017 18:13 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 17:26 emperorchampion wrote:
This game is cold as ice lol, I've been following along and I think i want to start with this team:
##nominate: emperorchampion grackattack superbia cause they are known to be cool people. Could you replace superbia with sicklucker? Then we can make our no more emphatic ^^ On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right." You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good. And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead. ~SilverWolf77 The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team. That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:Cause grack's a bro: Scum hunting: On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic. On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax. On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul? no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now Town circling: On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team? I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought. So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf. I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads: super/silver/grack Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in: On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though. So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people? ~SilverWolf77 super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two. I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise. Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK. We will yay-vote silver/super/tumble. Have issues with Vivax though. On February 01 2017 00:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Our biggest problem is that we don't want vivax subbing in for tumble. Kinda equal between Super/Vivax. On January 30 2017 08:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2017 08:41 Silverika wrote:On January 30 2017 06:35 sharkie wrote:
Oh god calix is next leader, can we afford that? This is why I'm kind of annoyed the first one didn't pass. That said, Calix's complete lack of activity is unusual for her as either alignment and if we could get a replacement in, if needed, that would probably help a lot with reading that slot. ~SilverWolf Would you be fine with superbia/you/tumble? On January 30 2017 08:47 Vivax wrote:
I'm blatantly advertising this team so we actually get something to pass at some point and if you have issues with any of its members speak up. On February 01 2017 01:08 emperorchampion wrote:
##UN-nominate: emperorchampion grackattack super
##nominate: super silver tumble
@grack I think I prefer to have super or myself over vivax on the team you mention 2) Super/Tumble/Silver are still town, but in this scenario one of Vivax/Artisoul/EC is secretly hoping that the team does not pass, and they were only in favor of the team to try to appear townie. *For this scenario I could only really see this being true with mafia! Artisoul. Vivax wanted the Tumble/Super/Silver team early on and EC laid out several different teams that he could have chosen from before settling on Tumble/Super/Silver. 3) At least one of Super/Tumble/Silver is mafia. I believe that this should be all of the possible scenarios. I think the 3rd one is the most likely. I know my role so I know that 1 isn't possible. But even if I didn't I would be quite surprised if both Sharkie and Sicklucker are mafia. in the hours leading up to the deadline for the team, yet you refused to swap Super or even Tumble out for Grack despite stating yourself a willingness to do so: On February 01 2017 06:42 emperorchampion wrote:On February 01 2017 06:27 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote:
@art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me
Sorry this is from mobile we trust grack more than super  if it's all equal to you that shouldn't be an issue, right? I mean I trust supe more I think lol Idk where tumble is tho, maybe tumble for grack Why did you still go with silver/super/tumble instead of subbing one of the latter for Grack? I mean I pretty much picked the team to see how tumble and super will deal with each, and on the basis of townread on super and silver. So tumble and super not posting at all after that was a bit meh. I still felt like the team was valid for the original reasons though. In addition neither posted in the last cycle, I think super has dropped a bit for me. In retrospect yeah I maybe should have swapped super -> grack, but part of me is worried why it's such an issue 1hr before the deadline, and not maybe 6hrs ago when I proposed it. Also an issue for me was that I pretty much wasn't actually able to switch the teams since I was busy with irl stuff. So yeah it's pretty annoying to have that happen right before the end of the deadline. In the end I just decided it was better to go with what I had originally thought than swap right then. Are you still waffly on super? What do you think of neither tumble nor super posting in the last cycle?
If you picked the team to see how tumble and super dealt with each other, and then they didn't deal with each other at all during that phase, why did you stick with it?
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On February 02 2017 09:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 09:37 Silverika wrote:On February 02 2017 09:04 sicklucker wrote:On February 02 2017 07:06 Silverika wrote:
great game guys, really fun, having a blast here
why are you mad? now you get to pick a team... scummy mc scum scum Yeah, cuz as scum I'd be mad if we had yet another rejected team and it had to come to us. I really hope you aren't town and this bad. ~SilverWolf77 This is a great post.
no its fucking not he has the 5th team and hes mad it got rejected. it basicly means he can send who he wants to send which is what everyone wants to do. if I was him I would be dancing in the streets. I cant tell if hes an angry person or someone like me who fakes rage to have something to talk about as mafia. but it makes no fucking sense
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On February 02 2017 19:14 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 19:06 Vivax wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with what emc did he came into the thread yolo nominated a team, then readjusted it based on feedback. Nothing wrong with not being stubborn especially when he just came in as replacement.
Anyway this isn't just about the team I want but about the team that most of town can agree on.
TW, SL are staying out of it. That's not questionable atm.
Me, Grack, ika sounds tempting but includes me and that goes against my philosophy and I don't want to spend time arguing why I'm resistance anyway. Others can do that when they feel like noming me.
Grack, ika, super looks viable to me atm. Still paranoid of rtanisoul. Even you shouldn't be able to ignore how Superbia and TW looked pretty awful near the end of the day and EC went Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 06:46 emperorchampion wrote:
Mm I think I just stick with original + I'm peacing soon
I feel good about this team :D and I encourage y'all to vote yay!! Which sounds pretty godawful to me. Also why are you paranoid about us? Any reasons or just standard Vivax tinfoil?
super is like 70% mafia i think. standard disappearance act
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On February 02 2017 21:59 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 21:55 emperorchampion wrote:On February 02 2017 21:32 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 02 2017 21:18 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't really understand why rtani is scum reading me so much for wanting me to value their opinion over mine. Sharkie seemingly has a bone to pick with me for reasons which seem pretty nebulous and won't answer any questions of mine lol. sharkie/ika/grack is OK for same reasons that tumble could replace sharkie.
I dunno I think we should just do vivax/ika/grack, I feel fairly comfortable with that Can you tell me what happened that caused these doubts On February 01 2017 04:48 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm mostly worried since tumble and super aren't in thread and there's like 2 hrs till deadline.
On both Super who didn't post anything of substance and Tumble who didn't post anything whilst Grack posted good shit like On February 01 2017 05:43 Grackaroni wrote:I don't want to be too WIFOMy so I'll break this up into 3 possible scenarios and you can choose which one you think is the most likely scenario. Either: 1) Silver/Super/Tumblewood are all town. The 3 people who are most in favor of the Super/Tumble/Silver team are also town. (1st choice given by Vivax/EC/Artisoul). In this scenario the game is basically solved. The scum team is Me/Sharkie/Sicklucker and we completely flopped, while the entire town was able to effectively coalesce around a town team. + Show Spoiler + Latest team suggestionsOn January 31 2017 18:13 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 17:26 emperorchampion wrote:
This game is cold as ice lol, I've been following along and I think i want to start with this team:
##nominate: emperorchampion grackattack superbia cause they are known to be cool people. Could you replace superbia with sicklucker? Then we can make our no more emphatic ^^ On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right." You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good. And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead. ~SilverWolf77 The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team. That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:Cause grack's a bro: Scum hunting: On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic. On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax. On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul? no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now Town circling: On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team? I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought. So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf. I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads: super/silver/grack Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in: On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though. So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people? ~SilverWolf77 super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two. I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise. Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK. We will yay-vote silver/super/tumble. Have issues with Vivax though. On February 01 2017 00:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Our biggest problem is that we don't want vivax subbing in for tumble. Kinda equal between Super/Vivax. On January 30 2017 08:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2017 08:41 Silverika wrote:On January 30 2017 06:35 sharkie wrote:
Oh god calix is next leader, can we afford that? This is why I'm kind of annoyed the first one didn't pass. That said, Calix's complete lack of activity is unusual for her as either alignment and if we could get a replacement in, if needed, that would probably help a lot with reading that slot. ~SilverWolf Would you be fine with superbia/you/tumble? On January 30 2017 08:47 Vivax wrote:
I'm blatantly advertising this team so we actually get something to pass at some point and if you have issues with any of its members speak up. On February 01 2017 01:08 emperorchampion wrote:
##UN-nominate: emperorchampion grackattack super
##nominate: super silver tumble
@grack I think I prefer to have super or myself over vivax on the team you mention 2) Super/Tumble/Silver are still town, but in this scenario one of Vivax/Artisoul/EC is secretly hoping that the team does not pass, and they were only in favor of the team to try to appear townie. *For this scenario I could only really see this being true with mafia! Artisoul. Vivax wanted the Tumble/Super/Silver team early on and EC laid out several different teams that he could have chosen from before settling on Tumble/Super/Silver. 3) At least one of Super/Tumble/Silver is mafia. I believe that this should be all of the possible scenarios. I think the 3rd one is the most likely. I know my role so I know that 1 isn't possible. But even if I didn't I would be quite surprised if both Sharkie and Sicklucker are mafia. in the hours leading up to the deadline for the team, yet you refused to swap Super or even Tumble out for Grack despite stating yourself a willingness to do so: On February 01 2017 06:42 emperorchampion wrote:On February 01 2017 06:27 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote:
@art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me
Sorry this is from mobile we trust grack more than super if it's all equal to you that shouldn't be an issue, right? I mean I trust supe more I think lol Idk where tumble is tho, maybe tumble for grack Why did you still go with silver/super/tumble instead of subbing one of the latter for Grack? I mean I pretty much picked the team to see how tumble and super will deal with each, and on the basis of townread on super and silver. So tumble and super not posting at all after that was a bit meh. I still felt like the team was valid for the original reasons though. In addition neither posted in the last cycle, I think super has dropped a bit for me. In retrospect yeah I maybe should have swapped super -> grack, but part of me is worried why it's such an issue 1hr before the deadline, and not maybe 6hrs ago when I proposed it. Also an issue for me was that I pretty much wasn't actually able to switch the teams since I was busy with irl stuff. So yeah it's pretty annoying to have that happen right before the end of the deadline. In the end I just decided it was better to go with what I had originally thought than swap right then. Are you still waffly on super? What do you think of neither tumble nor super posting in the last cycle? If you picked the team to see how tumble and super dealt with each other, and then they didn't deal with each other at all during that phase, why did you stick with it?
Yeah that was arguably stupid, and probably a large part of why the team got voted down lol. I guess I was hoping for better in the next phase.
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On February 02 2017 22:06 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 21:59 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 02 2017 21:55 emperorchampion wrote:On February 02 2017 21:32 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 02 2017 21:18 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't really understand why rtani is scum reading me so much for wanting me to value their opinion over mine. Sharkie seemingly has a bone to pick with me for reasons which seem pretty nebulous and won't answer any questions of mine lol. sharkie/ika/grack is OK for same reasons that tumble could replace sharkie.
I dunno I think we should just do vivax/ika/grack, I feel fairly comfortable with that Can you tell me what happened that caused these doubts On February 01 2017 04:48 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm mostly worried since tumble and super aren't in thread and there's like 2 hrs till deadline.
On both Super who didn't post anything of substance and Tumble who didn't post anything whilst Grack posted good shit like On February 01 2017 05:43 Grackaroni wrote:I don't want to be too WIFOMy so I'll break this up into 3 possible scenarios and you can choose which one you think is the most likely scenario. Either: 1) Silver/Super/Tumblewood are all town. The 3 people who are most in favor of the Super/Tumble/Silver team are also town. (1st choice given by Vivax/EC/Artisoul). In this scenario the game is basically solved. The scum team is Me/Sharkie/Sicklucker and we completely flopped, while the entire town was able to effectively coalesce around a town team. + Show Spoiler + Latest team suggestionsOn January 31 2017 18:13 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 17:26 emperorchampion wrote:
This game is cold as ice lol, I've been following along and I think i want to start with this team:
##nominate: emperorchampion grackattack superbia cause they are known to be cool people. Could you replace superbia with sicklucker? Then we can make our no more emphatic ^^ On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo Nope Care to elaborate? I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right." You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good. And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead. ~SilverWolf77 The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team. That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:Cause grack's a bro: Scum hunting: On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic. On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax. On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul? no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now Town circling: On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team? I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought. So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf. I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads: super/silver/grack Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in: On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?
Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though. So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people? ~SilverWolf77 super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two. I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise. Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK. We will yay-vote silver/super/tumble. Have issues with Vivax though. On February 01 2017 00:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Our biggest problem is that we don't want vivax subbing in for tumble. Kinda equal between Super/Vivax. On January 30 2017 08:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2017 08:41 Silverika wrote:On January 30 2017 06:35 sharkie wrote:
Oh god calix is next leader, can we afford that? This is why I'm kind of annoyed the first one didn't pass. That said, Calix's complete lack of activity is unusual for her as either alignment and if we could get a replacement in, if needed, that would probably help a lot with reading that slot. ~SilverWolf Would you be fine with superbia/you/tumble? On January 30 2017 08:47 Vivax wrote:
I'm blatantly advertising this team so we actually get something to pass at some point and if you have issues with any of its members speak up. On February 01 2017 01:08 emperorchampion wrote:
##UN-nominate: emperorchampion grackattack super
##nominate: super silver tumble
@grack I think I prefer to have super or myself over vivax on the team you mention 2) Super/Tumble/Silver are still town, but in this scenario one of Vivax/Artisoul/EC is secretly hoping that the team does not pass, and they were only in favor of the team to try to appear townie. *For this scenario I could only really see this being true with mafia! Artisoul. Vivax wanted the Tumble/Super/Silver team early on and EC laid out several different teams that he could have chosen from before settling on Tumble/Super/Silver. 3) At least one of Super/Tumble/Silver is mafia. I believe that this should be all of the possible scenarios. I think the 3rd one is the most likely. I know my role so I know that 1 isn't possible. But even if I didn't I would be quite surprised if both Sharkie and Sicklucker are mafia. in the hours leading up to the deadline for the team, yet you refused to swap Super or even Tumble out for Grack despite stating yourself a willingness to do so: On February 01 2017 06:42 emperorchampion wrote:On February 01 2017 06:27 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 01 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote:
@art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me
Sorry this is from mobile we trust grack more than super if it's all equal to you that shouldn't be an issue, right? I mean I trust supe more I think lol Idk where tumble is tho, maybe tumble for grack Why did you still go with silver/super/tumble instead of subbing one of the latter for Grack? I mean I pretty much picked the team to see how tumble and super will deal with each, and on the basis of townread on super and silver. So tumble and super not posting at all after that was a bit meh. I still felt like the team was valid for the original reasons though. In addition neither posted in the last cycle, I think super has dropped a bit for me. In retrospect yeah I maybe should have swapped super -> grack, but part of me is worried why it's such an issue 1hr before the deadline, and not maybe 6hrs ago when I proposed it. Also an issue for me was that I pretty much wasn't actually able to switch the teams since I was busy with irl stuff. So yeah it's pretty annoying to have that happen right before the end of the deadline. In the end I just decided it was better to go with what I had originally thought than swap right then. Are you still waffly on super? What do you think of neither tumble nor super posting in the last cycle? If you picked the team to see how tumble and super dealt with each other, and then they didn't deal with each other at all during that phase, why did you stick with it? Yeah that was arguably stupid, and probably a large part of why the team got voted down lol. I guess I was hoping for better in the next phase.
You understand that this explanation doesn't help your case >>
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I feel like a lot of these questions/comments directed at us would be answered if anybody read our posts.
~SilverWolf77
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On February 02 2017 19:21 sharkie wrote:My analysis of the last day: - Show nested quote +On February 01 2017 13:23 Vivax wrote:
Morning gents.
Today I want to see superbia and TW fighting as they both distrust each other yet as spies they should want the team to pass.
Looking forward to their reasoning for the respective vote. I really want to highlight this post. This was the first time we had our two resident debaters on the same team and just like vivax I was looking forward to their posts to this team nomination. However, neither posted anything about this team and chose the safe way out (rejecting the team). Now I am sure both people will come up with some excuse why yesterday was the day they could not post a lot. But this is way too much coincidence for me as if either had been town they would have surely spoken up and gave us their thoughts about being on the same team. So for me the suspicion of both rose up quite a lot after yesterday. - My next point or question is "wtf silver?" Why did you approve of this team nomination of EC? I thought we were in agreement that EC is very suspicious of being a spy so why do you approve his mission? No way you can believe that a spy will not try to smuggle at least one spy in this team especially the way he acted. Yes, he gave us several suggestions based on our feedback but in the end he chose out of the several possibilities. You were 100% for me but this vote put a dent (small but still) in your reputation imo. - I really liked SL's posts the other day. I think he realised that he posted some stupid things and did try to make up for it (and successfully in my point of view). I hope that resurgence of his posts is not a one time thing and he will now assist us more in team selections!
Great, every post we make, someone is gonna come in and say we are going down a peg. If you can't see how everyone townread us and suddely most everyone has a problem is a cause for concern, I don't know what to tell you. It's in scum's best interest to not let anyone get too townread as they can't lynch. Similar to a nightless so discrediting is the next step.
On your WTF point, please read our posts as we explained this in depth yesterday during our arguments with Ritani Soul and sicklucker. Ritani Soul actually came out of that looking a lot better that sicklucker BTW who continues to mud sling at us and nothing else this game. We were on the team and EC was not. We were reasonably o.k. with the other two so we said o.k. so we can get a mission passed and get some info. It's not necessarily true that spies will fail the first mission. It highlights them a little too much. Putting a town team in there that would make them look good is exactly what happened last game of this that I played. But regardless, keeping the gamestate stagnated is not helpful to anyone but scum. It creates apathy and that is not good.
~SilverWolf77
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On February 02 2017 19:00 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 18:27 Silverika wrote:
Sorry guys, got super busy and I'm exhausted now and don't think I can even think straight to do those filters right now.
As far as emperorchampion Vivax-do you have reasons you want to give him a chance? Are you suggesting putting him on the team and if so why?
I don't consider the replace in scummy. Calix not posting is null. The only points I don't like are the fact he seemed really appeasy as far as putting up teams. It's like he didn't want to ruffle any feathers at all. And I am not sure why you wouldn't put yourself in as team leader on a small team because if you know you are town, then you know 1/3 of the mission is town and you just need to find two more townreads.
Better chance of passing that way.
~SilverWolf77 That's one of the only things EC has done that we don't find scummy. If no one's townreading your slot it doesn't make sense to put yourself up as that mission will never pass the first stage.
He would do this as either alignment and I haven't seen a lot out of him outside this. If this isn't scummy to you, what do you not like about him? Why is he your number two scumread?
~SilverWolf77
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On February 02 2017 21:58 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 09:37 Silverika wrote:On February 02 2017 09:04 sicklucker wrote:On February 02 2017 07:06 Silverika wrote:
great game guys, really fun, having a blast here
why are you mad? now you get to pick a team... scummy mc scum scum Yeah, cuz as scum I'd be mad if we had yet another rejected team and it had to come to us. I really hope you aren't town and this bad. ~SilverWolf77 you shouldnt be mad as either alignment you have all the power... which is why your actions make no sense. its amazing really
Thanks for telling me how I should feel and spending so much of your posting throwing shade at us. Now, play the game if you are town, or tell us how me getting frustrated yesterday in any way comes from scum who has control of the 5th mission.
~SilverWolf77
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On February 02 2017 21:59 sicklucker wrote:
silvers so mad at me and it does not make anysense. like it has to be fake rage right? wtf did I even do
Yeah, I'm really raging out. You continue to do nothing but talk about us though.
~SilverWolf77
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On February 02 2017 22:00 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 09:45 Vivax wrote:On February 02 2017 09:37 Silverika wrote:On February 02 2017 09:04 sicklucker wrote:On February 02 2017 07:06 Silverika wrote:
great game guys, really fun, having a blast here
why are you mad? now you get to pick a team... scummy mc scum scum Yeah, cuz as scum I'd be mad if we had yet another rejected team and it had to come to us. I really hope you aren't town and this bad. ~SilverWolf77 This is a great post. no its fucking not he has the 5th team and hes mad it got rejected. it basicly means he can send who he wants to send which is what everyone wants to do. if I was him I would be dancing in the streets. I cant tell if hes an angry person or someone like me who fakes rage to have something to talk about as mafia. but it makes no fucking sense
Read my posts instead of coming in here and going on and on about how you think I'm fake. Seriously, when I have time I'm gonna ISO you and see what percentange of your posts is talking about how you don't like us because I bet it's pretty darn high.
Also, tell me why scum would even care about missions failing if they get the 5th? That's why Vivax said we made a good point. I'm a female BTW and you haven't seen me get angry in a game. Frustrated yet, but if I were to get angry, there'd be no doubt. Luckily, it hasn't happened yet.
Regarding faking rage/emotion and how you do that as scum, this outrage of your towards us looks fake as hell. It's like you don't have anything else to talk about as mafia.
~SilverWolf77
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On February 02 2017 22:56 Silverika wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 19:00 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 02 2017 18:27 Silverika wrote:
Sorry guys, got super busy and I'm exhausted now and don't think I can even think straight to do those filters right now.
As far as emperorchampion Vivax-do you have reasons you want to give him a chance? Are you suggesting putting him on the team and if so why?
I don't consider the replace in scummy. Calix not posting is null. The only points I don't like are the fact he seemed really appeasy as far as putting up teams. It's like he didn't want to ruffle any feathers at all. And I am not sure why you wouldn't put yourself in as team leader on a small team because if you know you are town, then you know 1/3 of the mission is town and you just need to find two more townreads.
Better chance of passing that way.
~SilverWolf77 That's one of the only things EC has done that we don't find scummy. If no one's townreading your slot it doesn't make sense to put yourself up as that mission will never pass the first stage. He would do this as either alignment and I haven't seen a lot out of him outside this. If this isn't scummy to you, what do you not like about him? Why is he your number two scumread? ~SilverWolf77
First it's the double sub. Second, it's everything that happened around the previous nomination which I quoted last page.
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On February 02 2017 21:59 sicklucker wrote:
silvers so mad at me and it does not make anysense. like it has to be fake rage right? wtf did I even do
When someone comes in and says they never do anything in a game and that's town for them, they are asking for a free pass to continue to act that way. It's antitown and best and scummy at worst. I have a history of having very little tolerate for "this person is always like this as town so let them be lazy" especially when it comes from the person themselves. I have gotten some pretty good reads in the past out of poking people who do this. Your reaction is not what I was hoping for which is all I'm not gonna say right now.
~SilverWolf77
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On February 02 2017 19:34 Vivax wrote:
Super also dropped off drifting off into SLesque shitposting style as of late, so his 6 pages of filter don't impress my eyes as much. But he seems like he's just trying to have fun with the game at times, so dnu, unsure on him still.
Taking a look just at the votes I feel like swika approves a bit too often for my taste and I would like an explanation of why they approved with emc on the team as sharkie pointed out, but otherwise still am not particularly distrustful of that slot. Frustration about not passing seemed genuine too.
emc wasn't on the team
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On February 02 2017 23:07 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 22:56 Silverika wrote:On February 02 2017 19:00 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 02 2017 18:27 Silverika wrote:
Sorry guys, got super busy and I'm exhausted now and don't think I can even think straight to do those filters right now.
As far as emperorchampion Vivax-do you have reasons you want to give him a chance? Are you suggesting putting him on the team and if so why?
I don't consider the replace in scummy. Calix not posting is null. The only points I don't like are the fact he seemed really appeasy as far as putting up teams. It's like he didn't want to ruffle any feathers at all. And I am not sure why you wouldn't put yourself in as team leader on a small team because if you know you are town, then you know 1/3 of the mission is town and you just need to find two more townreads.
Better chance of passing that way.
~SilverWolf77 That's one of the only things EC has done that we don't find scummy. If no one's townreading your slot it doesn't make sense to put yourself up as that mission will never pass the first stage. He would do this as either alignment and I haven't seen a lot out of him outside this. If this isn't scummy to you, what do you not like about him? Why is he your number two scumread? ~SilverWolf77 First it's the double sub. Second, it's everything that happened around the previous nomination which I quoted last page.
I tend to not judge slots on subbing or using that as a reason to scumread. However, your other points are perfectly valid. I don't think he's able to explain an inconsistent thought process on picking teams and this is something town should have an easier time with than scum who just want to push one of their team members on it.
~SilverWolf77
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On February 02 2017 19:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:
Also if you don't want us in the team, put sharkie there instead of super. I'd vote for that. Approved. I like his thoughts to the super and tumble matter as I also dislike them much more since they literally didn't care. And I like that you suggest this. Next suggestion is Sharkie/Ika/Grack
I'm gonna discuss this with ika when he's awake, Grack is o.k. and I like a lot of sharkie's recent post but ika didn't like Chariman Ray. I'll see if he still feel strongly about that after recent posting and get back to you. He's been working a lot so I've been doing most of the posting.
~SilverWolf77
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ok FYI for everyone i am working overnights i said this pregame and has not changed.
i will not accpet any missions with sharkie or sicklucker
sick has only had basicly a sole focus on us and had basicly tanuted silverwolf over and over again. i have told her to ignore the slot until further notice
sharkies posting has not really change my view at all. CR post was bad and then he suddenly goes missing after bign called out. i find it quesionable becasue sharkie started out bing "well this team is fine this is fine" and then goes on later doing the opposite and looking at 597 i feel like his reads are waffled. while i am using POE myself at this point i dont stust him offhand. if i see more i am willing to reconsider but i would be willing to send him on a team of 3 if its us and someone i trust
EC did offer way too much of "well what does everyone want" so i dont want someone who is not trying to narrow the pool down in the sent.
basicly the people i will auto reject if sent is EC and sicker
sharkie i would send on conditional
TW i would have to iso cus i find him ifffy but im quickly passing out so my mind is fuzzing over
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Hey friends I'm still town. Just made the mistake of starting my first game of diplomacy. Oops. :D
Will maybe read a bit this evening.
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