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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22251 Posts
January 27 2017 18:49 GMT
#221
On January 28 2017 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 03:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:27 Silverika wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Fyi I'm rejecting cause I don't trust RtaniSoul yet.

Superbia Silverika seems fine to me though.


could you elaborate on all of these?


You seem R cause gut feeling.
Superbia seems R cause he seems to be plaing to the best of his abilities which is a good indicator. Also liked his read on me but that's a more subjective reason.
RtaniSoul seem derpy and too hung up on sending themselves. I suspect them of being S while sending two R along with them.

Why would they not send themselves on their own mission??

I'd find it pretty strange to exclude themselves during the first selection.


It's always safe to send yourself cuz of the "i know im town argument" duh.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
January 27 2017 18:49 GMT
#222
On January 28 2017 03:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:27 Silverika wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Fyi I'm rejecting cause I don't trust RtaniSoul yet.

Superbia Silverika seems fine to me though.


could you elaborate on all of these?


You seem R cause gut feeling.
Superbia seems R cause he seems to be plaing to the best of his abilities which is a good indicator. Also liked his read on me but that's a more subjective reason.
RtaniSoul seem derpy and too hung up on sending themselves. I suspect them of being S while sending two R along with them.

Why would they not send themselves on their own mission??

I'd find it pretty strange to exclude themselves during the first selection.


It's always safe to send yourself cuz of the "i know im town argument" duh.

But wouldn't you send yourself?
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 18:53 GMT
#223
On January 28 2017 03:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:27 Silverika wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Fyi I'm rejecting cause I don't trust RtaniSoul yet.

Superbia Silverika seems fine to me though.


could you elaborate on all of these?


You seem R cause gut feeling.
Superbia seems R cause he seems to be plaing to the best of his abilities which is a good indicator. Also liked his read on me but that's a more subjective reason.
RtaniSoul seem derpy and too hung up on sending themselves. I suspect them of being S while sending two R along with them.

Why would they not send themselves on their own mission??

I'd find it pretty strange to exclude themselves during the first selection.


It's always safe to send yourself cuz of the "i know im town argument" duh.


-shrugs- won't argue strategy with you, but suffice to say that wouldn't be very bright of us lol in your world

more interested in sharkie's response...cheerleader dude beginning to get to me :/
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 18:55 GMT
#224
also, grack, i think i'd rather you be forthright with your vote. can't really conceive of a reason as to why you'd hide it
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
January 27 2017 19:05 GMT
#225
On January 28 2017 03:55 RtaniSoul wrote:
also, grack, i think i'd rather you be forthright with your vote. can't really conceive of a reason as to why you'd hide it

Because it makes for great suspense.

Plus you (or your partner) mentioned that it would sometimes make sense for town to lie about how they're going to vote. The same reasons would apply for me keeping my vote a secret.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22251 Posts
January 27 2017 19:21 GMT
#226
On January 28 2017 03:49 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 03:49 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:27 Silverika wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Fyi I'm rejecting cause I don't trust RtaniSoul yet.

Superbia Silverika seems fine to me though.


could you elaborate on all of these?


You seem R cause gut feeling.
Superbia seems R cause he seems to be plaing to the best of his abilities which is a good indicator. Also liked his read on me but that's a more subjective reason.
RtaniSoul seem derpy and too hung up on sending themselves. I suspect them of being S while sending two R along with them.

Why would they not send themselves on their own mission??

I'd find it pretty strange to exclude themselves during the first selection.


It's always safe to send yourself cuz of the "i know im town argument" duh.

But wouldn't you send yourself?


Seems like a stupid question tbh, both alignments want that, and that's why I don't want that.

So no, I won't suggest myself when I nominate unless others widely recognized my alignment.

For the information value.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 19:30 GMT
#227
On January 28 2017 04:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 03:55 RtaniSoul wrote:
also, grack, i think i'd rather you be forthright with your vote. can't really conceive of a reason as to why you'd hide it

Because it makes for great suspense.

Plus you (or your partner) mentioned that it would sometimes make sense for town to lie about how they're going to vote. The same reasons would apply for me keeping my vote a secret.


did he? i don't read the swill he writes ^^ i suppose i can ask him when he gets back from his mother's, though

-flicks things at viva- then i expect you to have a reason not to trust us that doesn't involve us putting ourselves on the first team, since by your own admission that means nothing whatsoever for our alignment

did i miss where you said a grouping you would trust? cause i'm more interested in that than whatever dumbassery this is lol ><
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 19:32 GMT
#228
On January 28 2017 04:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 03:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:49 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:27 Silverika wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Fyi I'm rejecting cause I don't trust RtaniSoul yet.

Superbia Silverika seems fine to me though.


could you elaborate on all of these?


You seem R cause gut feeling.
Superbia seems R cause he seems to be plaing to the best of his abilities which is a good indicator. Also liked his read on me but that's a more subjective reason.
RtaniSoul seem derpy and too hung up on sending themselves. I suspect them of being S while sending two R along with them.

Why would they not send themselves on their own mission??

I'd find it pretty strange to exclude themselves during the first selection.


It's always safe to send yourself cuz of the "i know im town argument" duh.

But wouldn't you send yourself?


Seems like a stupid question tbh, both alignments want that, and that's why I don't want that.

So no, I won't suggest myself when I nominate unless others widely recognized my alignment.

For the information value.


...yeah actually i will discuss it. what, exactly, makes it better for you as 'town' to not be part of a team that ends up sabotaging rather than to be part of the team? except to not be included in the resulting suspicion, anyway
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18619 Posts
January 27 2017 19:43 GMT
#229
On January 28 2017 03:27 Silverika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 03:22 sharkie wrote:
On January 28 2017 02:25 RtaniSoul wrote:
Well, as I see no particular reason to change it, I'll go with this. I'll be around tonight though as I'm stuck in with a swollen knee, so feel free to still discuss/suggest/what have you.

##nominate: RtaniSoul, Silverika, Superbia


Good choice, i will vote for this team!


why? what about it makes you town read the entire group?


Why not? 6 of us are good and its very unlikely that a spy is in the initial team. You also gave good valid reasons for choosing the team.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 19:43 GMT
#230
on the bright side, since i can't really fathom a town reason to not include yourself on a team, i'm perfectly happy with your proposal vivax ^^
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 19:44 GMT
#231
On January 28 2017 04:43 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 03:27 Silverika wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:22 sharkie wrote:
On January 28 2017 02:25 RtaniSoul wrote:
Well, as I see no particular reason to change it, I'll go with this. I'll be around tonight though as I'm stuck in with a swollen knee, so feel free to still discuss/suggest/what have you.

##nominate: RtaniSoul, Silverika, Superbia


Good choice, i will vote for this team!


why? what about it makes you town read the entire group?


Why not? 6 of us are good and its very unlikely that a spy is in the initial team. You also gave good valid reasons for choosing the team.


silver did?

what makes you say that it's unlikely for a spy to be in the initial team?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22251 Posts
January 27 2017 19:56 GMT
#232
On January 28 2017 04:32 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 04:21 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:49 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:27 Silverika wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Fyi I'm rejecting cause I don't trust RtaniSoul yet.

Superbia Silverika seems fine to me though.


could you elaborate on all of these?


You seem R cause gut feeling.
Superbia seems R cause he seems to be plaing to the best of his abilities which is a good indicator. Also liked his read on me but that's a more subjective reason.
RtaniSoul seem derpy and too hung up on sending themselves. I suspect them of being S while sending two R along with them.

Why would they not send themselves on their own mission??

I'd find it pretty strange to exclude themselves during the first selection.


It's always safe to send yourself cuz of the "i know im town argument" duh.

But wouldn't you send yourself?


Seems like a stupid question tbh, both alignments want that, and that's why I don't want that.

So no, I won't suggest myself when I nominate unless others widely recognized my alignment.

For the information value.


...yeah actually i will discuss it. what, exactly, makes it better for you as 'town' to not be part of a team that ends up sabotaging rather than to be part of the team? except to not be included in the resulting suspicion, anyway


Cause if we accept self nomination widely any spy can include themselves for no reason other than "im town duh".
I want leaders to have a better reason than that.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 20:11 GMT
#233
On January 28 2017 04:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 04:32 RtaniSoul wrote:
On January 28 2017 04:21 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:49 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:27 Silverika wrote:
On January 28 2017 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Fyi I'm rejecting cause I don't trust RtaniSoul yet.

Superbia Silverika seems fine to me though.


could you elaborate on all of these?


You seem R cause gut feeling.
Superbia seems R cause he seems to be plaing to the best of his abilities which is a good indicator. Also liked his read on me but that's a more subjective reason.
RtaniSoul seem derpy and too hung up on sending themselves. I suspect them of being S while sending two R along with them.

Why would they not send themselves on their own mission??

I'd find it pretty strange to exclude themselves during the first selection.


It's always safe to send yourself cuz of the "i know im town argument" duh.

But wouldn't you send yourself?


Seems like a stupid question tbh, both alignments want that, and that's why I don't want that.

So no, I won't suggest myself when I nominate unless others widely recognized my alignment.

For the information value.


...yeah actually i will discuss it. what, exactly, makes it better for you as 'town' to not be part of a team that ends up sabotaging rather than to be part of the team? except to not be included in the resulting suspicion, anyway


Cause if we accept self nomination widely any spy can include themselves for no reason other than "im town duh".
I want leaders to have a better reason than that.


yeah that's really a shit reason, viva

if you're town and you put yourself on a team you accomplish two things: 1) minimizing the pool of suspects if the mission is sabotaged, and 2) increasing the chances that there is no possibility of sabotage

i bet you can guess where 'appeasing a viva whose alignment i don't even know' falls in terms of priority there lol >< again, you're going to need a better reason to scumread us than what is by your definition null

more importantly, who do YOU think should be on the first mission if not us? this is just naysaying
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 20:16 GMT
#234
this actually reminds me of the kosovo material and the argument: but, but, intervention COULD be abused, therefore it shouldn't be allowed

the fact that scum could use the argument that they're town to put themselves on a team just means that you ignore that argument, not that you concoct some bs where you don't pass anyone who puts themselves on a team because they did that

so i'll ask again, and i do expect real answers

1) do you have any reason at all to think we're scum other than putting ourselves on a team?

and

2) who would you have go on the mission other than us?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22251 Posts
January 27 2017 20:24 GMT
#235
I'm very comfy with nay saying until I get a better grip on the game.
Aggressively pushing a specific team is very much spy play.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 20:33 GMT
#236
On January 28 2017 05:24 Vivax wrote:
I'm very comfy with nay saying until I get a better grip on the game.
Aggressively pushing a specific team is very much spy play.


who would you have go on the mission other than us?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22251 Posts
January 27 2017 20:36 GMT
#237
On January 28 2017 05:33 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 05:24 Vivax wrote:
I'm very comfy with nay saying until I get a better grip on the game.
Aggressively pushing a specific team is very much spy play.


who would you have go on the mission other than us?


Dunno yet :>

But secretly you wish I would say: myself
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 20:37 GMT
#238
if you're worried about looking like a spy for having a concrete answer, you can also just give me who you would vote no to. or you can just not give me anything, including a reason to change my read on you ^^

up to you
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
January 27 2017 20:38 GMT
#239
On January 28 2017 05:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 05:33 RtaniSoul wrote:
On January 28 2017 05:24 Vivax wrote:
I'm very comfy with nay saying until I get a better grip on the game.
Aggressively pushing a specific team is very much spy play.


who would you have go on the mission other than us?


Dunno yet :>

But secretly you wish I would say: myself


lol frankly i don't care. i want you to say something. i'm still trying to decide if this is normal viva retarded or actually scummy. it would be hella nice if you weren't frequently incomprehensible to me as town, you know. then i could just write you off here and now ^^
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22251 Posts
January 27 2017 20:59 GMT
#240
To me it just keeps looking like you care too much that I don't want you to be on the team. It's scummy.

As resistance, why would you care so much that someone is hung up on not sending a specific person?
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