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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On January 24 2017 08:38 Damdred wrote: Whatever punishment is asked by the hosts for my modkill I will accept it. Sorry for partially ruining the game. Hope you are alright. =/ | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Punish these players after the game, not the people in the game. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
it was a FORCED MAJORITY lynch game as in if people don't vote, town never gets to lynch anyone honestly, if hapahauli hadn't voted himself, that day is a perfect example of town not reaching enough votes | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 24 2017 08:44 iamperfection wrote: Onegu- mvp Holyflare- 80 Bill Murray- 25 Vivax - 10 Rels- 10 LightningStrike - 10 Hapahauli- 0 Damdred - 0 Alakaslam- 0 i gave the points that i took away from the mod kills and self voters to holyflare. Im pretty sure holyflare wins this game easily if his partner was anyone but alakaslam or damdred. updated standings 1.Holyflare- 105 2.sicklucker- 50 3. Bill Murray- 25 4.LightningStrike- 20 4.Rels- 20 5.Alakaslam-10 5.ExO_-10 5.Kmatt-10 5.disformation-10 5.Vivax - 10 I have so many problems with that. IMO Hapa or Vivax should get MVP. They caught HF D1 with really nice logic. Hapa in particular. And HF didn't get lynched D1 because BM Slam Damdred and Onegu resisted the lynch, then followed by Vivax. In another town HF gets lynched D1 there. Then Hapa gets mad D2. And he was kidna right to be mad. He was obvious town, he was pusing both scum. And he got counter pushed by HF and Onegu for very, very bad reasons. So bad I thought Onegu & HF were the team for sure. And Hapa did too. During LYLO though Onegu and BM were super good. But in a normal game it would have been too late. Especially if Damdred didn't get modkilled, no way he isn't lynched during LYLO. The stars aligned (scum + super scummy lurker modkilled) to create that LYLO where BM and Onegu could shine. To conclude I think Onegu getting the MVP for only his last day play is not fair. He played well the last day, but it shouldn't have mattered. He was part of the reason HF didn't get lynch D1, then "obvious town" Hapa got mad and lynched D2. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
On January 24 2017 20:04 Rels wrote: I have so many problems with that. IMO Hapa or Vivax should get MVP. They caught HF D1 with really nice logic. Hapa in particular. And HF didn't get lynched D1 because BM Slam Damdred and Onegu resisted the lynch, then followed by Vivax. In another town HF gets lynched D1 there. Then Hapa gets mad D2. And he was kidna right to be mad. He was obvious town, he was pusing both scum. And he got counter pushed by HF and Onegu for very, very bad reasons. So bad I thought Onegu & HF were the team for sure. And Hapa did too. During LYLO though Onegu and BM were super good. But in a normal game it would have been too late. Especially if Damdred didn't get modkilled, no way he isn't lynched during LYLO. The stars aligned (scum + super scummy lurker modkilled) to create that LYLO where BM and Onegu could shine. To conclude I think Onegu getting the MVP for only his last day play is not fair. He played well the last day, but it shouldn't have mattered. He was part of the reason HF didn't get lynch D1, then "obvious town" Hapa got mad and lynched D2. Self-voting should not earn you MVP. Vivax is possible though. I think giving multiple points to HF is questionable - it basically means that he wins the LQ because there's no way that anyone can surpass 105 points in two games. He didn't win the game. It shouldn't matter how stacked the odds were against him with his AFK partner. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On January 24 2017 08:44 iamperfection wrote: Onegu- mvp Holyflare- 80 Bill Murray- 25 Vivax - 10 Rels- 10 LightningStrike - 10 Hapahauli- 0 Damdred - 0 Alakaslam- 0 i gave the points that i took away from the mod kills and self voters to holyflare. Im pretty sure holyflare wins this game easily if his partner was anyone but alakaslam or damdred. updated standings 1.Holyflare- 105 2.sicklucker- 50 3. Bill Murray- 25 4.LightningStrike- 20 4.Rels- 20 5.Alakaslam-10 5.ExO_-10 5.Kmatt-10 5.disformation-10 5.Vivax - 10 The not troll iamp but also completely irrelevant point distrubution is as followed: Vivax MVP Onegu 40 Bill Murray 40 Holyflare 35 Rels 10 LightningStrike 10 I understand HF played his hearth out but a decent amount of people suspected him from the start. For example LS correctly identified the SvT with Hapa, Rels knew HF was off, Hapa knew HF was off, and then BM and Onegu lynched him the last day. Kuddos to HF for not getting lynched earlier of course, that takes effort. Vivax for me is MVP because his reads were the best throughout the game and while he was considered N1, he couldn't be ignored N2 imo. Rels did a decent job as well but unfortunately got nk'ed too soon for his reads to really develop into the right direction. I am pretty sure if BM gets killed N1 and Rels is alive D3 that he also makes the right decision, but to not go too far from iamps point system we are stuck on 10 points. LS gets 10 as well, his lynch wasn't his fault, and I don't think he was the "best" lynch at all. Onegu and BM just get 40 points because they were bad enough to survive to D3 and then play it out brilliantly. But let's not kid ourselves, Onegu his D1-EoD2 were just harddefending mafia HF and being completely wrong while not pushing the game towards the correct direction at all, but again, I want to somewhat stay close to iamp his point system. And if sicklucker last game can have 50 points, Onegu should get 40 I guess. But come on, the guy his D2 post was buddying HF and saying Onegu + Slam were the mafia misslynches of choice........ hahaha. And his D3 vote was based on "I am 99% sure BM is mafia but I go for the 1% and MVP". oh well.. life... I guess... BM at least made townie posts the first days and was correct on Hapa? I didn't follow his posts too closely. Hapa don't kill yourself dummie. Slam be more involved in the voting process. You played second best in the previous qualifier, but also couldn't be arsed to be involved in the voting process. Just put a vote down in your first post in the future, if needed on yourself. Damdred Who? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/gVRc8uPNT8YjM | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
I have reservations with onegu being mvp because he literally just did it regardless of my alignment. He even said so in a pm that he would lynch me if he was 99% sure bm was madia. I think it's a very cheap play and not playing mafia at all to play for irrelevant points. I don't even care about the points. I just like winning. If there is an mvp this game it should be BM who played well enough to not really get scum read and made the lynch between two other people, myself included. He was making a decision and had to read and weigh up points whereas onegu did jack shit. Vivax dumb telled his way to being town read and shut down discussion evaluating hapa and me for a wild scenario that never made any sense. He was a hinderence to town hapa and any kind of information. He should get some points for being nkd possibly. LightningStrike got lynched day 1 and should necer receive more points or the same points as a guy nkd n1 and universally town read. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Holyflare- 80 Bill Murray- 25 Vivax - 10 Rels- 10 LightningStrike - 10 Hapahauli- 0 Damdred - 0 Alakaslam- 0 Hf - 50 (20?whatever don't care, 40 to steal slam's points) Bm - mvp Onegu - 30? 40? Rels - 20 Vivax - 15 Everyone else 10 apart from damd /hapa/slam | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
Yes, his reasoning in LYLO was absolutely disgusting but nevertheless he was the only townie in this game who lead a scumlynch. Normally I would agree that this LYLO performance alone is far from MVP worthy but there is simply noone else in this game who deserves it. Hapa played a really good early game but you are seriously crazy if you want to award MVP to someone who actively lynched himself as town. Basically the only player who deserves MVP in this game is HF and sadly he wasn't on the winning team due to really unfortunate circumstances. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On January 24 2017 21:25 justanothertownie wrote: Onegu being MVP is correct in my opinion. Ha! Didn't expect that, did you? Yes, his reasoning in LYLO was absolutely disgusting but nevertheless he was the only townie in this game who lead a scumlynch. Normally I would agree that this LYLO performance alone is far from MVP worthy but there is simply noone else in this game who deserves it. Hapa played a really good early game but you are seriously crazy if you want to award MVP to someone who actively lynched himself as town. Basically the only player who deserves MVP in this game is HF and sadly he wasn't on the winning team due to really unfortunate circumstances. Onegu hard townread both mafia D1 and D2 and pushed against their lynch to the frustration of others. On January 20 2017 04:58 Onegu wrote: HF for MVP purposes I would like to point out I figured the Damdred Hapa scumteam first. Read both posts. That was EoD2. MVP that townread 2 mafia and scumread 2 townies EoD2. D3 was fine. But let's not kid ourselves, it was pure luck. BM actually knew why HF was mafia. Onegu "felt" it. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On January 19 2017 09:54 iamperfection wrote: Vote Count Holyflare (1) : Vivax Alakaslam (3) : Hapahauli, Bill Murray, Holyflare, Not voting (3) : Alakaslam ,Onegu, Damdred Currently, no one is set to be lynched! The day phase will end at Friday, Jan 20 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00). remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! with 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch If you see any vote out of place, let us know! On January 20 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote: Vote Count Holyflare (0) : Alakaslam (3) : Hapahauli, Bill Murray, Holyflare, Damdred (1) : Onegu Onegu (1) : Vivax Not voting (2) : Alakaslam , Damdred Currently, no one is set to be lynched! The day phase will end at Friday, Jan 20 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00). remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! with 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch If you see any vote out of place, let us know! Here you can see who made the mafia lynch go bad on D2. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Vivax at least didn't vote for the shittiest wagon Hapa. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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