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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 11:38 GMT
#1043
On January 18 2017 20:37 Holyflare wrote:
also vivax I want to work with you so please just work with me for a bit?


Maybe you should sneak out of that toilet and get to work son
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 11:44 GMT
#1046
On January 18 2017 20:39 Holyflare wrote:
I get that you wanted to lynch hapa for his contradiction.
I get that you called us all tools for lynching LS.
But why were we tools when we lynched the person with more glaring contradictions?
Why haven't you re-evaluated now that you've actually seen like 20 posts by me on LS instead of the one from myself and damdred that you linked?


Cause the original reasons for me voting for you are still valid and in the room. I don't think I need to re evaluate.

And I don't feel like having much conversation with your or Hapa cause so far it feels like it's the only thing in the game and I don't trust the rest of the players to read it for real, and especially if all of this goes on for much longer.

If I signed off yesterday and came back to the thread only to find three players talking among themselves all the time, I would also be very inclined to just skip most of their posts.

So I don't think it's protown that it is what you want.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 11:46 GMT
#1047
It has come this far HF now we have to play catering to casuals. Goodbye 100 pages D1s.

I'll resume conversation with you when the thread is more alive however.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 14:20 GMT
#1052
On January 18 2017 23:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm probably foolish, but ls swing on hf to just steeping hapa and not really doing much else made me think scrum thatvrricked me earlier.

It sucks but yeah. I should have more time to catch up in a few.

yeah 'cause LS sheeping and not doing much is so scum indicative right. Especially to you, who's supposed to know him super well. I hate this post of yours. I hate the fact that you came back just in time to vote. And I'm seeing in your filter that you left just afterwards.
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:48 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:36 Vivax wrote:
Suddenly HF and Hapa best buds


But yes I actually believed there were three mafia <_<

Same dumbtell as last game ... I think this comes more often from town than scum. Last game was more clear and cut 'cause the dude was a newbie. But even then fake dumbtells don't come from scum very often.
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know if vivax is mafia either but it seems the most likely

the thing is in this exact same hosted game (championship qualifier 1) someone made the same mistake and dumb telled himself town but he was a COMPLETE noob, I don't know if vivax took a dose of stupid fucking moron pills to think 1/3 of the game was mafia or not but yeah it's unlikely

Disagree that it's unlikely. It's possible that it's fake but not very likely IMO

Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I kind of like the cut of bm's jib at the moment and he seemed super up for hashing things out at deadline which I really liked.

Agree
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I feel that if onegu was mafia he just joins the wagon on me and gets me out of the way because that's the easiest thing in the world to do but need to talk to him

Disagree. I can see Onegu as scum doing exactly as he did - kinda nothing, but posts to say "I don't wanna lynch HF" when HF is the main lynch.
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 20:25 Vivax wrote:
I'm stuck between deciding on Rels being sloppy townie or mafia. The "stayed at work to see flip" reads townie to me, but so far I could count three times where he didn't notice new information in the thread. Also huge lack of paranoia on HF.

On January 18 2017 02:26 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Lw: Lynch hapa or hf day 2 then lynch Damdred.

WAIT I THOUGHT DAMDRED WAS CONF SCUM IF HE DIDNT CALL YOU TOWN


And this post for example is hard to make sense of cause LS is saying to lynch Damdred in it.

But it's one of the reasons for him to support LS lynch.

On January 18 2017 02:27 Rels wrote:
OK Thats cool I think we're hitting scum. Dunno why LS wouldn't want to lynch Damdred D2


The thought was that Damdred should have been the first to be lynched in LS mind there.


Can you tell me if my vote on Hapa was odd or scummy enough to disregard my entire D1 play?
What's it like from your perspective, I really need that input from anyone not Hapa/HF
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 14:37 GMT
#1058
On January 18 2017 23:23 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 23:20 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 23:13 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm probably foolish, but ls swing on hf to just steeping hapa and not really doing much else made me think scrum thatvrricked me earlier.

It sucks but yeah. I should have more time to catch up in a few.

yeah 'cause LS sheeping and not doing much is so scum indicative right. Especially to you, who's supposed to know him super well. I hate this post of yours. I hate the fact that you came back just in time to vote. And I'm seeing in your filter that you left just afterwards.
On January 18 2017 02:48 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:36 Vivax wrote:
Suddenly HF and Hapa best buds


But yes I actually believed there were three mafia <_<

Same dumbtell as last game ... I think this comes more often from town than scum. Last game was more clear and cut 'cause the dude was a newbie. But even then fake dumbtells don't come from scum very often.
On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know if vivax is mafia either but it seems the most likely

the thing is in this exact same hosted game (championship qualifier 1) someone made the same mistake and dumb telled himself town but he was a COMPLETE noob, I don't know if vivax took a dose of stupid fucking moron pills to think 1/3 of the game was mafia or not but yeah it's unlikely

Disagree that it's unlikely. It's possible that it's fake but not very likely IMO

On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I kind of like the cut of bm's jib at the moment and he seemed super up for hashing things out at deadline which I really liked.

Agree
On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I feel that if onegu was mafia he just joins the wagon on me and gets me out of the way because that's the easiest thing in the world to do but need to talk to him

Disagree. I can see Onegu as scum doing exactly as he did - kinda nothing, but posts to say "I don't wanna lynch HF" when HF is the main lynch.
On January 18 2017 20:25 Vivax wrote:
I'm stuck between deciding on Rels being sloppy townie or mafia. The "stayed at work to see flip" reads townie to me, but so far I could count three times where he didn't notice new information in the thread. Also huge lack of paranoia on HF.

On January 18 2017 02:26 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Lw: Lynch hapa or hf day 2 then lynch Damdred.

WAIT I THOUGHT DAMDRED WAS CONF SCUM IF HE DIDNT CALL YOU TOWN


And this post for example is hard to make sense of cause LS is saying to lynch Damdred in it.

But it's one of the reasons for him to support LS lynch.

On January 18 2017 02:27 Rels wrote:
OK Thats cool I think we're hitting scum. Dunno why LS wouldn't want to lynch Damdred D2


The thought was that Damdred should have been the first to be lynched in LS mind there.


Can you tell me if my vote on Hapa was odd or scummy enough to disregard my entire D1 play?
What's it like from your perspective, I really need that input from anyone not Hapa/HF

I think you're town


That doesn't answer the question :/

What I'm getting at, do you think they had an argument there. Do you think someone would change his read on me so strongly based on my EoD?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 14:44 GMT
#1060
On January 18 2017 23:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 23:37 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 23:23 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 23:20 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 23:13 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm probably foolish, but ls swing on hf to just steeping hapa and not really doing much else made me think scrum thatvrricked me earlier.

It sucks but yeah. I should have more time to catch up in a few.

yeah 'cause LS sheeping and not doing much is so scum indicative right. Especially to you, who's supposed to know him super well. I hate this post of yours. I hate the fact that you came back just in time to vote. And I'm seeing in your filter that you left just afterwards.
On January 18 2017 02:48 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:36 Vivax wrote:
Suddenly HF and Hapa best buds


But yes I actually believed there were three mafia <_<

Same dumbtell as last game ... I think this comes more often from town than scum. Last game was more clear and cut 'cause the dude was a newbie. But even then fake dumbtells don't come from scum very often.
On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know if vivax is mafia either but it seems the most likely

the thing is in this exact same hosted game (championship qualifier 1) someone made the same mistake and dumb telled himself town but he was a COMPLETE noob, I don't know if vivax took a dose of stupid fucking moron pills to think 1/3 of the game was mafia or not but yeah it's unlikely

Disagree that it's unlikely. It's possible that it's fake but not very likely IMO

On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I kind of like the cut of bm's jib at the moment and he seemed super up for hashing things out at deadline which I really liked.

Agree
On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I feel that if onegu was mafia he just joins the wagon on me and gets me out of the way because that's the easiest thing in the world to do but need to talk to him

Disagree. I can see Onegu as scum doing exactly as he did - kinda nothing, but posts to say "I don't wanna lynch HF" when HF is the main lynch.
On January 18 2017 20:25 Vivax wrote:
I'm stuck between deciding on Rels being sloppy townie or mafia. The "stayed at work to see flip" reads townie to me, but so far I could count three times where he didn't notice new information in the thread. Also huge lack of paranoia on HF.

On January 18 2017 02:26 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Lw: Lynch hapa or hf day 2 then lynch Damdred.

WAIT I THOUGHT DAMDRED WAS CONF SCUM IF HE DIDNT CALL YOU TOWN


And this post for example is hard to make sense of cause LS is saying to lynch Damdred in it.

But it's one of the reasons for him to support LS lynch.

On January 18 2017 02:27 Rels wrote:
OK Thats cool I think we're hitting scum. Dunno why LS wouldn't want to lynch Damdred D2


The thought was that Damdred should have been the first to be lynched in LS mind there.


Can you tell me if my vote on Hapa was odd or scummy enough to disregard my entire D1 play?
What's it like from your perspective, I really need that input from anyone not Hapa/HF

I think you're town


That doesn't answer the question :/

What I'm getting at, do you think they had an argument there. Do you think someone would change his read on me so strongly based on my EoD?

Yes the reason makes sense and both HF and Hapa could be town thinking it.


I disagree. It didn't seem to catch their attention until after LS was lynched.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 14:54 GMT
#1064
On January 18 2017 23:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 23:44 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 23:39 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 23:37 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 23:23 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 23:20 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 23:13 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm probably foolish, but ls swing on hf to just steeping hapa and not really doing much else made me think scrum thatvrricked me earlier.

It sucks but yeah. I should have more time to catch up in a few.

yeah 'cause LS sheeping and not doing much is so scum indicative right. Especially to you, who's supposed to know him super well. I hate this post of yours. I hate the fact that you came back just in time to vote. And I'm seeing in your filter that you left just afterwards.
On January 18 2017 02:48 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:36 Vivax wrote:
Suddenly HF and Hapa best buds


But yes I actually believed there were three mafia <_<

Same dumbtell as last game ... I think this comes more often from town than scum. Last game was more clear and cut 'cause the dude was a newbie. But even then fake dumbtells don't come from scum very often.
On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know if vivax is mafia either but it seems the most likely

the thing is in this exact same hosted game (championship qualifier 1) someone made the same mistake and dumb telled himself town but he was a COMPLETE noob, I don't know if vivax took a dose of stupid fucking moron pills to think 1/3 of the game was mafia or not but yeah it's unlikely

Disagree that it's unlikely. It's possible that it's fake but not very likely IMO

On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I kind of like the cut of bm's jib at the moment and he seemed super up for hashing things out at deadline which I really liked.

Agree
On January 18 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I feel that if onegu was mafia he just joins the wagon on me and gets me out of the way because that's the easiest thing in the world to do but need to talk to him

Disagree. I can see Onegu as scum doing exactly as he did - kinda nothing, but posts to say "I don't wanna lynch HF" when HF is the main lynch.
On January 18 2017 20:25 Vivax wrote:
I'm stuck between deciding on Rels being sloppy townie or mafia. The "stayed at work to see flip" reads townie to me, but so far I could count three times where he didn't notice new information in the thread. Also huge lack of paranoia on HF.

On January 18 2017 02:26 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Lw: Lynch hapa or hf day 2 then lynch Damdred.

WAIT I THOUGHT DAMDRED WAS CONF SCUM IF HE DIDNT CALL YOU TOWN


And this post for example is hard to make sense of cause LS is saying to lynch Damdred in it.

But it's one of the reasons for him to support LS lynch.

On January 18 2017 02:27 Rels wrote:
OK Thats cool I think we're hitting scum. Dunno why LS wouldn't want to lynch Damdred D2


The thought was that Damdred should have been the first to be lynched in LS mind there.


Can you tell me if my vote on Hapa was odd or scummy enough to disregard my entire D1 play?
What's it like from your perspective, I really need that input from anyone not Hapa/HF

I think you're town


That doesn't answer the question :/

What I'm getting at, do you think they had an argument there. Do you think someone would change his read on me so strongly based on my EoD?

Yes the reason makes sense and both HF and Hapa could be town thinking it.


I disagree. It didn't seem to catch their attention until after LS was lynched.

What do you mean ? You switched your Hapa read minutes before the deadline. You would have expected to say that you're scum this very moment, and not a little bit later ?


Hapa seemed way more apathetic about my vote at the time he saw it compared to what he acted like after the lynch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 14:56 GMT
#1066
He made way more sense talking to me about the matter before the lynch than what I saw afterwards.

Shouldn't he for example have already gotten angry that I was getting off HF before the LS lynch was even in the room? But he wasn't.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:01 GMT
#1070
Whtz the fuck is this bullshit about my LS vote all the time? I never voted for him.

First HF now Rels
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:02 GMT
#1072
Like someone of the two has to be mafia is what jumps to my head if they can't even read a bunch of votes
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:02 GMT
#1074
On January 19 2017 00:02 Holyflare wrote:
when did I EVER say you voted for LS? EVER?


Read my filter I bolded it at the beginning of the night

Oh right you don't read filters
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:04 GMT
#1076
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=45#892

Asshole
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:04 GMT
#1077
while everyone is already piling up on me to change the lynch to have you magically change your mind on hapa and then magically switch to ls?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:04 GMT
#1078
Asshole and scum
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:08 GMT
#1081
Yea sure now you say it means something entirely different.

It's almost as if you couldn't express yourself in your first language.

to have you magically change your mind on hapa and then magically switch to ls?


This reads to me EXACTLY how you meant it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:13 GMT
#1086
On January 19 2017 00:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Yea sure now you say it means something entirely different.

It's almost as if you couldn't express yourself in your first language.

to have you magically change your mind on hapa and then magically switch to ls?


This reads to me EXACTLY how you meant it.


if you're capable of thinking 1/3 of the game is mafia in a 9 player game then I'm sure as hell capable of missing a comma and making a sentence look different


Do you actually still read OPs after hundreds of games?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:14 GMT
#1088
On January 19 2017 00:13 Rels wrote:
Rereading Hapa's reaction, he's mad at you when he's forced to vote LS over HF to not have a mislynch. And he's saying you're the one responsible for it


And how does that make sense when I was posing resistance to that lynch?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:17 GMT
#1091
On January 19 2017 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
pretty funny the reason you think i'm mafia is a complete error though ^^


No cause I still have the D1 argument where you think along the lines of "If Damdred is mafia he's reading LS town, ergo he's not mafia".

That will stick with me all game long cause it's so good.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:17 GMT
#1093
And is my reason for having you voted D1 in the first place
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22311 Posts
January 18 2017 15:19 GMT
#1094
On January 19 2017 00:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 00:14 Vivax wrote:
On January 19 2017 00:13 Rels wrote:
Rereading Hapa's reaction, he's mad at you when he's forced to vote LS over HF to not have a mislynch. And he's saying you're the one responsible for it


And how does that make sense when I was posing resistance to that lynch?

It makes 100% sense. If your vote was kept on HF it was super likely the lynch


Wouldn't that mean you only lynched LS cause HF wasn't the lynch and not cause you believed what Damdred said?
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