EPTIt seems like Slam had an unusually high standard of posting last game as town. That's all that is.
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Hapahauli
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It seems like Slam had an unusually high standard of posting last game as town. That's all that is. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 17 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote: I'll draw you a pretty picture of where I'm at when I finish work. Hapa how come you think I'm mafia when my list of potential mafia are everyone you've been calling out? Ls, you've said he starts to fit damdred's meta of being lazy but never follow that up further and "at a stretch" he's not even in your list of, now 3, mafia suspects. You wanted to lynch damdred for what reason? That he's playing the same as you and that's it? Onegu? Not doing anything? Me? Not pushing stuff? This list of people is incredibly superficial and you have no actual reasons, despite there being ACTUAL reasons to scum read these people or town read them. Missing the point. Me and a lot of other people this game have had problems finding suspicious people. Ergo, lynch lurkers. You apparently think everyone is mafia. Ergo... lynch lurkers? Very much not the same. I and others have reached my conclusions based on how lost we have felt with the game. You are seemingly sitting on a trove of information and leads and are not doing anything wiht them. Ergo, mafia. Damdred there's a tonne to weigh up. Him being demotivated, not doing much and rolling over is normally what I consider town damdred to be. You may not know that but if you're town he's playing the exact same way you're criticising 3 (and include yourself) people for. What made him mafia over everyone else? Why ignore the LS meta read that damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia? Then there's also him just rolling with the thread/whatever I have said, ignoring his meta read on ls being wrong multiple times and the afk excuse that just pops up out of nowhere. None of the above feature in your thoughts whatsoever (maybe 1 does) but you never bother pushing it or enquiring more or conversing with other people. You're not thinking critically about the game, you're throwing out names of people for lazy/low activity/no content and hoping something sticks. What the actual fuck does Damdred have to do anything with? How in the actual fuck does the bolded make any sense towards me being mafia? I had my vote on Damdred. I didn't' like it. I posted in detail at the top of 26 why. Then I voted you because I'm more suspicious of you. And how do you call me mafia for throwing out lazy/low activity names AFTER I MAKE MY CASE ON YOU?!! You are not this thick as town. | ||
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What you call "forced posting" is me being lost, and trying anything to get someone to talk in an inactive game. No shit that will sound forced. No shit the questions will not be pretty. Why don't you talk to me about my non-forced case on HolyFlare instead? I get the impression you're not actually paying attention to anything that me and Holyflare have actually been saying over the past 2 pages. | ||
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1) It is extremely unlikely this is a mafia lynch with literally nothing else in the thread being pushed or considered in a stupidly inactive town. 2) The roll-over-and-die defense seems unlike town-Damdred, but I also think it's MORE mafia-Damdred. There's no self-preservation instinct there. 3) Holyflare is mafia. | ||
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2) The roll-over-and-die defense seems unlike town-Damdred, but I also think it's MORE mafia-Damdred. There's no self-preservation instinct there. Should read 2) The roll-over-and-die defense seems unlike town-Damdred, but I also think it's MORE unlike mafia-Damdred. There's no self-preservation instinct there. | ||
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On January 17 2017 23:13 Rels wrote: I read your case. I talked about it. I feel the opposite. HF having "too many scumreads" and being lazy about them don't make him scum. I don't feel like he's faking it. You realize that you're speaking about one of the better town players on this site, right? | ||
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[QUOTE]On January 17 2017 23:12 Hapahauli wrote: I unvoted Damdred for 3 reasons: 1) It is extremely unlikely this is a mafia lynch with literally nothing else in the thread being pushed or considered in a stupidly inactive town. 2) The roll-over-and-die defense seems unlike town-Damdred, but I also think it's MORE mafia-Damdred. There's no self-preservation instinct there. 3) Holyflare is mafia. [/QUOTE] So what if HF is mafia? Do you really put any weight whatsoever behind that vote on Damdred that doesn't say anything about either of them even if one flips?[Quote] Explain? [Quote]And I don't know how you think mafia can't be pulling the strings somewhere, cause I was believing you were on the table for them, but posts like this do make me wonder.[/Quote] This town's activity is on life support. Damdred is the lynch of least resistance. [Quote]The roll over reaction is contrary to what HF said not like town Damdred and is anyway, a very narrow perspective. The main point is still that Damdred doesn't seem to have any interest in scumhunting and the drive to solve the game is what differentiates town from mafia. Looking at a single reaction is mediocre at best.[/QUOTE] I get the impression from Damdred's filter that he is lost. Not that he isn't trying. Again, finding ANYTHING worth posting about on this early Day 1 was extremely difficult. If I were posting my unfiltered mind on Day 1, it would end up a lot like Damdred's filter. | ||
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On January 17 2017 23:18 Vivax wrote: So what if HF is mafia? Do you really put any weight whatsoever behind that vote on Damdred that doesn't say anything about either of them even if one flips? Explain? And I don't know how you think mafia can't be pulling the strings somewhere, cause I was believing you were on the table for them, but posts like this do make me wonder. This town's activity is on life support. Damdred is the lynch of least resistance. The roll over reaction is contrary to what HF said not like town Damdred and is anyway, a very narrow perspective. The main point is still that Damdred doesn't seem to have any interest in scumhunting and the drive to solve the game is what differentiates town from mafia. Looking at a single reaction is mediocre at best. I get the impression from Damdred's filter that he is lost. Not that he isn't trying. Again, finding ANYTHING worth posting about on this early Day 1 was extremely difficult. If I were posting my unfiltered mind on Day 1, it would end up a lot like Damdred's filter. | ||
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It's almost like HF is mafia throwing shade at everything he can in that post and seeing what sticks. It's almost like that's a fucking mafia tell. | ||
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MEANINGLESS! | ||
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On January 17 2017 23:27 Rels wrote: But at the same time HF is voting Damdred just after that post. When he just criticized Hapa for scumreading Damdred without scumreading LS DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING WINARRRRRRRR | ||
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a) HF is suspicious of the entire thread. b) HF sees myself (hapa) and Vivax vote Damdred. c) HF is lazy, votes Damdred, and "sees where it goes." d) HF sees a case against him in the morning, attacks the player who made the case because he hated that player's vote on Damdred, despite HF having made the exact same vote?!?!? From HF himself: Damdred there's a tonne to weigh up. Him being demotivated, not doing much and rolling over is normally what I consider town damdred to be. You may not know that but if you're town he's playing the exact same way you're criticising 3 (and include yourself) people for. What made him mafia over everyone else? Why ignore the LS meta read that damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia? Then there's also him just rolling with the thread/whatever I have said, ignoring his meta read on ls being wrong multiple times and the afk excuse that just pops up out of nowhere. | ||
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I'll be around for another half hour. Then driving my dad to the hospital for an appointment. I'll be back around 10:45est ish, and will be in thread until deadline. | ||
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On January 17 2017 23:36 Vivax wrote: Explain what? You are afraid that Damdred is HFs designated mislynch. How can you know for sure that HF isn't voting his scumbuddy off? Just, please don't use that method. It won't work with HF. I'm being inarticulate. The point I've been trying to make is that I think Damdred is a coinflip at best. And using the thread direction as indicator for whether the main lynch is town is also very dangerous. I use this almost only in lylo and then it doesn't lead me to conclusions, only to trying to dig other reads up and scramble the game around a bit if I feel like mafia is about to win. I've used this many times successfully. It's worked for me pretty well as town. I've swung quite a few last-minute lynches on mafia in my time on TL, starting from gut feels about thread direction. | ||
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On January 17 2017 23:34 Rels wrote: This never comes back. It's a kinda weird thing to think, but I could accept town!HF taking that into account for solving the game. BUT IT NEVER COMES BACK. He votes Damdred after that. He talks about Damdred without talking about LS: It is the thing "he hates the most by far" and he's forgetting it afterwards. That works. | ||
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