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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 14:40 GMT
#292
I really really think something is foul with Rels reads, I hope more people will look into that.

Slam and 1gu...ha, ha, haaaaa-
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 14:47 GMT
#295
On January 16 2017 23:44 Holyflare wrote:
I'm all for policy lynching ppl who waste my time signing up to a championship game to do nothing tbh. I feel bloodlust.


What color was your diarrhea today?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 16:18 GMT
#333
I'm trying to get a good grasp on what exactly made me so susp of Rels but it's making my head fume, so I'll be lazy for once and sum it up quickly without quoting.

1. His two statements proven as incorrect regarding Damdreds meta read lazy to me and sound too sure of himself. He could have at least asked Damdred or LS for a fact check. That he didn't displays that he absolutely wanted his posts to look justified. But I can't call this slamdunk scum trait I think. Sometimes townies are stubborn too. I'll call it scummy with small offchance of lazy town.

2. His read on LS during the conversation is really hard to follow. Once he says he has no townie posts, once he says he said something scummy, once he says he didn't think LS was scummy at the beginning, once he puts him among the two scummiest people in his list. It makes it look at times like he changed his read depending on what I asked.

3. I forgot what this was but if I remember I'll post it :>
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 16:23 GMT
#338
Slam who do you want to lynch?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 16:28 GMT
#345
On January 17 2017 01:23 Rels wrote:
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.


Give me a break dude. If you post stuff as you catch on while having a conversation then one never has an idea if you're changing opinion cause you're being confronted with accusations or cause you're absorbing new content. But then it's your fault for posting too early not mine for finding it scummy.

I also reserve the right to lynch you without being called fucking dumb. I don't have any beef with you I just think you're not being townie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 16:33 GMT
#347
On January 17 2017 01:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:28 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:23 Rels wrote:
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.


Give me a break dude. If you post stuff as you catch on while having a conversation then one never has an idea if you're changing opinion cause you're being confronted with accusations or cause you're absorbing new content. But then it's your fault for posting too early not mine for finding it scummy.

I also reserve the right to lynch you without being called fucking dumb. I don't have any beef with you I just think you're not being townie.

Well now that you know the fucking facts you can stop being a pain in the ass


By facts you mean the wrong meta information you have spewed with complete confidence to excuse your reads not making sense?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 16:58 GMT
#363
On January 17 2017 01:46 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Vivax

I'm not following the Rels stuff, particularly point #2 in your summary. Can you go in more detail?


You just need to open his filter and follow the LS read during our conversation. It remains unclear whether Rels wants to just disagree with Damdred on LS being town, or if he's actually scumreading LS. But I think he clarified it by now by saying that he actually scumreads LS. But when he called Damdred out for TMI he wasn't scumreading him yet.

Anyway it looked to me like he was just claiming something else depending on what I asked. Recapping it and after he clarified a bit I can see that point coming from town though.

Still dislike the wrong meta information though and the statement that Damdred's read on LS is always very accurate as it's not really relevant.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 17:58 GMT
#410
On January 17 2017 02:48 Onegu wrote:
##Vote Slam

100% based on his first 4 posts...

Yeah my first 4 posts werent any better content wise but at least I didnt tell you about my shit.


Can you tell me the story where someone is 100% mafia cause he talks about nonsense when he starts out please.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 18:02 GMT
#414
On January 17 2017 03:01 Onegu wrote:
Like where do I say he is 100% mafia. Where do I call him mafia. Stop trying to put words in my mouth vivax.


100 % based on his post sounds like you have a 100 % scumread.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 18:10 GMT
#417
On January 17 2017 03:07 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 03:02 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2017 03:01 Onegu wrote:
Like where do I say he is 100% mafia. Where do I call him mafia. Stop trying to put words in my mouth vivax.


100 % based on his post sounds like you have a 100 % scumread.



Huh, really not sure how you think this. I am onegu and yet you thing me making a vote and saying based on his first 4 posts I am declaring him as a 100% scumread?

Like part of me wants to believe you just are omgus me because I said you looked to worse in my next post...


Not really as you just realized on your own that it's not even correct.

And just cause you're 1gu doesn't mean you can't talk normally, you just like to play dumb at times.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 18:15 GMT
#419
On January 17 2017 03:13 Onegu wrote:
Ok even if I am not onegu. How does someone scumread a person 100% on a entrance like that. Even you said so. So why would you think that if no one else does it why would onegu do it?


I...what?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 18:16 GMT
#420
Why is slam scum for his first 4 posts is what I'm asking.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 19:24 GMT
#426
I'm warming up to the idea of Damdred being scum, for one really simple reason: There's no bite, no desire to find scum or push the game forward. I have yet to see him make some good observation that's aimed at catching someone.

Overall he looks waaaay to peaceful. Only townreads. And I wouldn't even complain that he doesn't have scumreads, but I believe he didn't even try to find one, when I look at his filter.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 20:03 GMT
#431
On January 17 2017 04:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 04:24 Vivax wrote:
I'm warming up to the idea of Damdred being scum, for one really simple reason: There's no bite, no desire to find scum or push the game forward. I have yet to see him make some good observation that's aimed at catching someone.

Overall he looks waaaay to peaceful. Only townreads. And I wouldn't even complain that he doesn't have scumreads, but I believe he didn't even try to find one, when I look at his filter.


This is what I was getting at earlier, but much more articulate.


Hop on the wagon and see where it leads us, then.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 20:11 GMT
#435
On January 17 2017 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
I'm at a bit of an impasse because I think there could actually be too many scum :D


Still suspicious of Hapa?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 20:22 GMT
#439
On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
I'm really, really, really not a fan of LS since he's done shit all and then went on and on about how he NEEDED damdred's read on me/hapa to do anything and then just said fair enough and did absolutely nothing when damdred did post something relevant

then I hate that damdred/rels KEEP making these lazy meta ls reads that aren't even true and then when presented with new information that should update their reads they don't even bother looking into it or fact checking it and damdred is playing lazzyyyy

then I hate onegu's "catch up" but I don't know if that's extreme bias because I despise a million times over people that do page by page catch ups instead of just a summary but regardless his catch up that he's done so far is shit

then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred:

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?

Nope.


which I think I hate by far the most


I think you're just about throwing (almost) the right names out there to discuss. I feel better about Hapa, he posts very accurately and diligently which on its own wouldn't be AI but I get the feeling that it walks us through a legitimate thought process, so that's useful.

LS/Damdred/Rels/1gu are imo worth looking into the most of the bunch. As for Slam, in his own way he said something. The DA thingy to start with, good idea to sheep you, and that gun to his head he would lynch Rels.
That's what I was able to extrapolate from my readings of his xeno language. For me enough to leave him alive D1 I suppose? Can't be confident about him ever.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 20:24 GMT
#441
On January 17 2017 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
I'm in a deep deep deep web of association theories and I don't like it

send help


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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 20:29 GMT
#444
If Damdred is mafia he's going to get a golden noose with candy hearts. Only the best for Damdred. He needs to be killed in kind.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 20:46 GMT
#446
On January 17 2017 05:38 Damdred wrote:
Well as long as my death is peaceful.

Honestly i probably just won't be here for lynch tomorrow so if we majority on me before I leave I kind of just have to accept it now. I basically have frmo now until 9 pm eastern to do things then i might dissapear until after lynch.

Sadly not to have sex with my wife for 17 hours straight :'(. I'll try to find something thats interesting to me but its just not to interesting yet in thread i guess.


Wasn't it Rels with the 17 hours of sex excuse?

Back on topic: It seems you understand why you're being scumread, so you surely also understand that if you completely changed your attitude now and started looking for more scumhunt-y content to talk about, it would be hard for most to buy it as it would be an obvious reaction to the accusations.

Buuuut, really? Not even a tiny bit of suspicion on anyone?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 16 2017 21:07 GMT
#452
I suggest you just make up your mind on who would be a better wagon. Don't see why Rels for example when I believe I'm the only one to have mentioned issues with his posts?

Onegu just behaved really confusing but not sure what would make him slam dunk mafia?

Hapa I think doesn't look that bad at the moment?

Do you have any points you think make them particularly interesting? Your read on Hapa seems a bit wobbly. You went like from TvT when he was arguing with me, to suspicious for soft defense of you, to null.

Just really anything that seems important to you? You lack bite this game, it's what's getting you voted.
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