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On January 16 2017 08:22 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 08:05 Holyflare wrote:
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Because town people generally care about what they think and have thought 2 hours previously.
Because town people don't usually forget the person they thought was weird/scummy.
Because town people don't try and retroactively defend themselves with lies when their answer is I forgot.
Because town don't change their entire story to stop someone scum reading them.
Because town don't then realise they've been caught out lying and try to retroactively undo their lie AGAIN!
Wtf hapa it's not that hard to understand??? Because... Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 07:43 Damdred wrote:
Eh I see where the disconect is, my posting implies that hi had an earlier bad feeling and I don't talk about hapa in that posting.
Ehhhhh, I can see it and understand your point.
It's a mistake on my part, maybe I meant to type hhapa there instead of vivax. I'm not sure what I was thinking or if i wwa just in a hurry.
Unfortunate but I doubt you believe my explanation anyway. ...the bolded makes sense, and is consistent with some other name typos that Damdred has made over the last 2 hours. (See: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=6#110)You switch out "vivax" for "hapa" there, and Damdred's thought process is entirely consistent. I believe the typo, or at the very least, I believe that the typo is equally likely to Damdred fucking up as mafia.
If you can read it like this after reading the last 5 or so posts on the last page where he specifically responds to my case and acknowledges the points then you must be mafia.
That's such a ridiculous defense on a person that doesn't even need defending and if it was truly an error on his part could quite easily vindicate himself later. The typos in this post you've linked are incredibly obvious phone auto corrects, for example, the name ls is extremely close to the letters M and E.
I don't think the letters V I V A X are close to H A P A in the slightest and in no way, shape or form would it ever be auto corrected to switch around.
Furthermore, to compound on your bull shittery, he mentions both your name and vivax as two separate paragraphs and points in his post. Two separate matters. It's not a typo at all and in fact is quite clearly talking about two people instead of "mistaking" the names. If it was a mistake it would be one paragraph.
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I really, really hate that hapa post.
Like REALLY.
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Maybe even enough to call damdred confirmed town and vote hapa.
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Ok nvm I drop everything about damdred.
Carry on folks, nothing to see here.
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I think hapa can absolutely be mafia.
His vivax fight/unvote felt forced especially since in one of his posts his whole vivax criticism is that vivax is posting what's on his mind and it's weak accusations but then says we should be posting everything we can.
His "suspicion" on me for what was blatantly troll posts but mimicry of what vivax was saying into nothing further about me (no follow up now I've posted).
His drive by comments and non participation into really out of the blue defence based on clear phone auto corrects is really odd when he likes pressure being put on people. His whole push just takes the wind out of my sails and shuts down a discussion avenue. Weird post even if it's what he thinks.
+ Show Spoiler +but his words are nice and he could just as easily be town but shhhhh that's no fun
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And it's not exactly a "soft defence" it's a full blown this is an irrelevant fuck up as either alignment comment. So basically it gives no stance whatsoever on you and shuts down the discussion.
But then asks for vivax and ls to discuss???
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I don't have a problem with forcing a fight because that's what I do a lot of the time. Your fight seemed unnecessarily extended and since it was forced because you wanted more discussion about things you were quite dismissive when new points arose (damdred's ls points). It's incongruous to want more discussion but not be that interested when it occurs. To add to that you were quite keen to sit back and do nothing with regards to damdred and myself for quite a while only to give no opinion in regards to anything alignment indicative.
Basically you want discussion but are shutting down discussion topics and not weighing in yourself.
What do we know about what you think of people currently? Absolutely nothing.
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And the ls/vivax thing is strange because you want their thoughts on something:
1) you are quite resolute in calling pointless
2) you haven't given your thoughts on any person so it seems like you're fobbing off that job to them.
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I'm just going to wait for the other half of the game to participate instead. Could be barking up the wrong tree tbh.
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You dismissed the entire thing by saying the name swap makes it make sense and looking back it does.
Thus the entirety of the case (at that point) becomes irrelevant. There's nothing for ls and vivax to weigh in on in that respect because not only have you shut it down in your own mind but for the majority of the thread too.
The thing that bugs me is that I'd think a town hapa would ask vivax/ls (what about the whole thread?) first and THEN post that tidbit afterwards to get more reads.
I just find it came at a really weird spot when only 5? people out of 9 have spoken.
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If you can explain why you didn't wait then maybeeee I'd feel better.
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On January 16 2017 13:58 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 13:15 Onegu wrote:
Is this game really a 12:00 EST deadline? Yes
Why did you want to know if Damdred was around?
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Congratulations on saying absolutely nothing slam.
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So if I'm being nitpicky about damdred and you don't like it why does hapa stopping it seem weird?
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Also vivax make this a dumb rels case for me because what you first called out about rels and the tmi thing looked fine to me (not scummy).
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But if you find my push on damdred nitpicky (please explain how) and hapa stopped a push you didn't like then why is it odd and why does that implicate that it's a mafia/town situation?
I feel like you've just copied a sentence about what I posted in regards to hapa and then didn't bother to actually make a conclusion and are making some weird statements.
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I'm seeing the posts that rels quoted from previous game where I called you out for the exact same thing as this game but in that game you backed it up.
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On January 16 2017 23:04 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 09:53 Holyflare wrote:I think hapa can absolutely be mafia. His vivax fight/unvote felt forced especially since in one of his posts his whole vivax criticism is that vivax is posting what's on his mind and it's weak accusations but then says we should be posting everything we can. His "suspicion" on me for what was blatantly troll posts but mimicry of what vivax was saying into nothing further about me (no follow up now I've posted). His drive by comments and non participation into really out of the blue defence based on clear phone auto corrects is really odd when he likes pressure being put on people. His whole push just takes the wind out of my sails and shuts down a discussion avenue. Weird post even if it's what he thinks. + Show Spoiler +but his words are nice and he could just as easily be town but shhhhh that's no fun Before I proceed to sum up why I think Rels could be mafia along with more questions for him that arose from his posts: You said at the beginning about me that I made a nice point about Hapa but reached the wrong conclusion. My point was that his tryhardism felt forced/cramped, and his attack on me was also pretty hefty given it was right at the beginning of the game, he explained why he played like that (just his personal style of getting discussion going). Then you make an argument that could as well have been mine, yet earlier you said my point was shit, so to say.
My post about you was entirely sarcasm. I literally said you made a read and that's higher skill than I've seen in most games. Aka everyone else in this forum has been playing like shit. It apparently went over everyone's head.
I did like your post about how hapa seemed ready to go and aggressive and I liked that you made it.
I liked that point but thought it made him towny whereas you thought the inverse.
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