Liquidmania Qualifier #2 - Page 13

On January 19 2017 00:50 Vivax wrote:


I just have a really hard time picturing my vote being such a big factor in the switch to LS as I didn't see anyone switch to LS cause of the unvote, but cause Damdred and HF called for it.

But if you say it's what it must have looked like for Hapa, I'll take this into consideration at face value.

On January 19 2017 00:53 Rels wrote:

It's been explained a lot. That's still why I'm not confident calling you town TBF.
LS says scum!Damdred never hard townread him.
Hapa ignores that fact 'cause it is not a good thing to take into account for him.
You attacked him saying he should have take it into account.
That's weird. But what's even weirder is that you don't take it into account yourself. Or if you do like you later said you did, it's not strong at all. So it's weird that it makes Hapa scum in your mind.

On January 19 2017 00:58 Vivax wrote:
So Rels what do you say about HF calling Slam scum? To me Onegu scum looks like the road of least resistance for a mafia but then again, it could be cuz I'm scumreading HF.

On January 19 2017 01:00 Holyflare wrote:


Hapa ignored that fact and didn't say he was ignoring it.
Hapa SCUM read LS or at least pointed out posts that indicated that too
I was speaking about damdred games where he afks as town too.
Hapa doesn't take any of that into account.
Hapa's points were simply that damdred was afk/sheeping me.

Hapa was ignoring thread relevant information that directly contradicted his scum read of damdred and didn't care. There was also more information in the thread to go on that he didn't care about in his read. And then complained that there wasn't enough info to go on.

Vivax's point is that I should have thought damdred is mafia. I thought damdred was a coin flip.

I don't care about if the meta read was right or not I was caring that hapa has not acknowledged anything in the game about damdred. Since then he's filled me in on his thought process and he said he did acknowledge it but didn't say anything. Which is completely different and he never said previously and is what I took issue with.

On January 19 2017 01:02 Rels wrote:
HF why Slam over damdred ?

On January 19 2017 01:04 Vivax wrote:


You still missed the two points I made:

1) For Hapa, it wasn't even about HOW Damdred read LS. It was THAT Damdred only read LS.
Yet HF argued about the HOW, not the THAT.

2) For HF to think what he thought, he must have reasoned like this:



Cause he said:



Which implies that Damdred should be read one way or another for it.
Which HF can only think when he thinks:

Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred

"If Damdred is mafia he's reading LS town, ergo he's not mafia".

On January 19 2017 01:09 Rels wrote:

And it doesn't bother you that Damdred had 3 posts before deadline, voting LS who he supposedly read very well, then goes "I was wrong" and GTFO ?

On January 19 2017 01:07 Holyflare wrote:


this sentence you have quoted here:



does not equal what you say here:



because damdred hard town read LS (which is something he never did as mafia, therefore damdred is likely to be town (if you put weight in meta reads, which hapa does))

On January 19 2017 01:10 Vivax wrote:


Damdred hard town read LS.
He doesn't do it as mafia.
Therefore Damdred is town.

Is always wrong when Damdred is town.
And only right when Damdred is mafia.

So you must have believed that Damdred was mafia for you to think that.

I, Vivax, hereby apologise to the towniest mother fucker Holyflare for being a colossal pain in the butt.

Signed

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