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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 18 2017 17:47 GMT
#1199
BM I can hear the obswarriors screaming for you to pull your head out of your arse.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 18 2017 17:51 GMT
#1200
On a more serious note, I don't think NK analysis will take you anywhere. While you can be right on NK analysis in general, anyone claiming that it's not reliable is also right.

For example, to me the thought simply occurs: Why aren't Hapa or HF dead if they are town? Why am I not dead? I can think of the answers but I don't want to put this up for discussion simply cause at the end of the day, nobody can know or prove what scum was thinking.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 18 2017 20:17 GMT
#1224
On January 19 2017 04:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 04:31 Holyflare wrote:
misguided but towny


It took you way too long to reach that conclusion. There's this je ne sais quoi about your play this game, where you're being very obstinate about things you shouldn't be.


On January 19 2017 04:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Like when you kept bringing up Haunted Mansion 3 to call Vivax scum. It takes all of a 10 second look at that game to realize just how differently Vivax was as mafia compared to this game.


Sounds a bit like this:

On January 19 2017 00:45 Vivax wrote:
I'll be honest today is a day where I'm irritated for no reason irl. Could be the full moon or what the hell do I know.
And I'm having fun bashing heads and am looking for a fight and don't use flowery words to express myself.

BUT.

I really believe you are mafia, and that the reasons are right.

Most of the time I have no problem getting along with you when you're town.
But that's cause then, you don't just play your argumentative mafia game, but actually have a clear mind about who you want to lynch and don't waste time baiting shitshows. And you know that I'm prone to shitshows. And as town you know that and if you want to lynch me, you don't spend time being angry at me for scumreading you and setting it right, you simply explain to everyone why I'm mafia and whatever I say doesn't matter or doesn't affect you.

A very subjective coloured additional reason for why I believe you're mafia.


But he also gives this rebuttal:

On January 19 2017 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 04:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Great. I guess I'll have to read that 55-60 after all.


I can summarise it. He thought I was piling on him after eod for lynching LS which I wasn't, I was asking him why he was calling us all tools for voting LS (it was a badly worded post on my part he quoted). After that was sorted out he decided to go back to his previous argument about my stance on damdred somehow affecting my stance on you. Again, this was misread on his part because he thought I thought damdred must be mafia but never called him that or something? I don't quite get it but he was wrong again.

Now it's for wanting to kill slam and onegu supposedly despite a lot of people in the game wanting the same thing. Go figure.


To which I said this:

On January 19 2017 00:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 00:20 Holyflare wrote:
On January 19 2017 00:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 19 2017 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
pretty funny the reason you think i'm mafia is a complete error though ^^


No cause I still have the D1 argument where you think along the lines of "If Damdred is mafia he's reading LS town, ergo he's not mafia".

That will stick with me all game long cause it's so good.


and that, again, is a reading error which I've pointed out about 8 times now


Yes, anything that could make you scum is a reading error and you simply reupdate your posts with what you should have said instead when somebody points it out.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 18 2017 20:21 GMT
#1225
And the emphasis is on argumentative, cause when HF is too much of that, I get suspicious. He has no trouble discussing anything he wants to death as either alignment, which is one of his strengths. So if you look at the bigger picture, and he even said it himself, the entire reason for 55-60 was that I was scumreading him and it didn't give him peace.

And therefore:


I, Vivax, hereby apologise to the scum mother fucker cool dude but I'm going to lynch him Holyflare for being a colossal pain in the butt.

Signed

Vivax

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 14:01 GMT
#1247
Interpreting the Slam language, he's back from traveling and is going to play more and at times where everyone else is more likely around, if I'm not mistaken.

Did ya watch LOTR lately Slam?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 15:09 GMT
#1250
Why are you so sure that HF is town?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 16:06 GMT
#1252
On January 20 2017 00:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 00:09 Vivax wrote:
Why are you so sure that HF is town?



Im not but I think hapa looks worse than HF at this point. And I would lynch hapa over HF here. I also doubt they are a scum team together. There was enough lynch bait in this game they didnt need to do so...


I don't understand the last sentence, what did they not need to do?

And why does Hapa look worse?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 16:13 GMT
#1255
With you and Slam in the game and Damdred being what the hell do I know he's not even playing, if I could concede for town, now would be the time. You really fill me with hopelessness when I see your posts.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 16:14 GMT
#1256
On January 20 2017 01:09 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 01:06 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2017 00:59 Onegu wrote:
On January 20 2017 00:09 Vivax wrote:
Why are you so sure that HF is town?



Im not but I think hapa looks worse than HF at this point. And I would lynch hapa over HF here. I also doubt they are a scum team together. There was enough lynch bait in this game they didnt need to do so...


I don't understand the last sentence, what did they not need to do?

And why does Hapa look worse?




Wouldnt need to bus each other with the ammount of lynchbait.


And Feels.


This is so extremely naive I don't even know
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 16:34 GMT
#1262
On January 20 2017 01:33 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 01:14 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2017 01:09 Onegu wrote:
On January 20 2017 01:06 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2017 00:59 Onegu wrote:
On January 20 2017 00:09 Vivax wrote:
Why are you so sure that HF is town?



Im not but I think hapa looks worse than HF at this point. And I would lynch hapa over HF here. I also doubt they are a scum team together. There was enough lynch bait in this game they didnt need to do so...


I don't understand the last sentence, what did they not need to do?

And why does Hapa look worse?




Wouldnt need to bus each other with the ammount of lynchbait.


And Feels.


This is so extremely naive I don't even know



Yet it is true.


No it's wifom.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 16:36 GMT
#1263
It's also funny for you to say after BH was the most vocal about lynching you in a game where he didn't have to.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 16:38 GMT
#1264
##Vote Onegu



I'm not scumreading you I'm just putting you into my lynch category
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 17:25 GMT
#1267
Hapa what's your opinion of this game so far.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 17:35 GMT
#1273
On January 20 2017 02:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 02:25 Vivax wrote:
Hapa what's your opinion of this game so far.


I'm pretty confident you're town.

I'm reasonably confident Bill Murray is town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=59#1180
Posts like these show a very good thought process. He seems to be invested in the game and caring what happens.

My gut is screaming that I was wrong on my Slam read. I've been going over his scum-games for the past hour, and they feel very different. His emotions are very simplistic in those - either outright trolling or calling someone mafia. He's much more nuanced here. Also his travel schedule and inactivity basically explains all his actions. Hard to find mafia when you have to filter on a phone.
Also the idea that Slam finishes D1 without voting looks like he's not overly concerned with covering his tracks. Not hard to just drop a vote on Damdred or HF or someone at EoD if you're mafia to look good.

That leaves the other three above.



You know, the big shiny posts don't a town make. You don't see what I see, you only see what you have to do in order to win the game for your faction, and that gives you away.

I currently believe this game is a shitshow.

Damdred is MIA and I'm starting to believe for good reason cause he's a good hearted guy. Only you and HF -the scum- play this game like it's supposed to be played.

Slam comes in shouting Gollum gollum, Onegu probably didn't read 90 % of the game and just does his thing, but doesn't take the game seriously, I applaude him for trying to though.

BM also probably just skimmed some shit and does his thing a bit like 1gu.

And all of this never affects you emotionally in your posts and that's a giveaway.

But whatever. This isn't a championship game, it's a fucking farce. I'm tilted and I'm not hiding it. I just now know EXACTLY how rayn felt when he quit the forum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 17:37 GMT
#1274
All I do past this point can be either a pretense that I care, or just me blatantly not caring. Nobody is going to read your posts, nobody is going to evaluate past his own prejudiced shitty standards.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 17:38 GMT
#1275
I like to think that the only reason you and HF left me alive is so you could even have somebody to talk with like we're supposed to in the game cause that's what you expected when you signed up, and that's fucking sad that I even have to think that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 17:50 GMT
#1279
On January 20 2017 02:43 Onegu wrote:
Like you told someone fuck you. And your posts have been all really aggressive and I just am not that used to that from you. Yes we havent played that many game together but doesnt seem like you. Maybe I am wrong.


I literally have no idea why you have fun playing mafia onegu. You just don't seem the type. I believe you just like feeling like you are in company. But others look for thrills, good or bad and I'm one of them. So when you see me cursing at HF and HF gnawing at my patience, I can guarantee you that I'm actually having fun, at the very least in retrospect.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 17:59 GMT
#1282
On January 20 2017 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:
I'll talk with you if you allow me to. I'm not going to fight with someone I think is town.

If you step back and take a look at my filter, it should be pretty clear that I am too. You should have in-depth experience with how I play mafia. Do you remember this?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/392955-dessert-mini-mafia?page=109
https://www.quicktopic.com/49/H/XzeY3JALfAC

You caught me dead to rights in Dessert Mini Mafia D1 in the Obs QT. Does my play look remotely like htat?


The shiny nice posts do remind me.

What just caught my eye is that you keep making them against these odds instead of standing up and shouting "yo get your shit together we didn't sign up for this".

I could compare filters if I wanted and try to find differences or similarities but the questions remain: Do I have to do that to think you're mafia, and who's going to read it anyway?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 18:09 GMT
#1285
I really dislike leaving you hanging there Hapa, but I'm not really in the mood for answering all of that. Futile is the word.

Maybe if the game wakes up a little it will bump up my care factor.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22402 Posts
January 19 2017 19:56 GMT
#1344
Even if this could be an act, it's fun to read

While I think it has already been beaten to death, the LS lynch happened cause of Damdred and HF I don't see how that is debatable.

And I don't see how not thinking that could make anybody scum.

HF is Hapa scum or is he in your lynch category?
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