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B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 04 2017 10:54 GMT
#37
/in
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 06 2017 02:48 GMT
#151
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 06 2017 02:58 GMT
#152
Well questions

are you town? - Yes
how long have you played mafia? - About three games? I've been playing on not this site.
do you play elsewhere and if so where? - Yes, on GPRO.net
What is your typical play style? I normally play very analytical, using logic and information posted
how do you scumhunt/townhunt? I find contradictions in the player via keeping careful notes on everyone
do you know anyone here that you can read very well? nope, first game on the site
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 06 2017 03:51 GMT
#154
About to go do a re read through, because Onegu hasn't posted anything of note since the game started (by of note, I mean anything I took note on)
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 06 2017 04:11 GMT
#155
yeah Onegu seems suspicious, so

##vote Onegu

B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 06 2017 06:32 GMT
#165
The hell is a zj?
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 06 2017 21:46 GMT
#276
I thought I voted for Onegu, is the page 10 vote count wrong or did I or did I format it wrong?
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 06 2017 22:32 GMT
#280
Okay, so after catching up, I have a few things to respond on.

First, as to why I am not more active, is that I have not a whole lot of time to play mafia during the week, so what I am doing is catching up, responding to everything I feel needs a response, giving my reads, then getting back off. You may flame me for this, but unless it's the weekend this will be how I play. I do have a life you know, but mafia is a lot of fun (which is why I wanted to play it).

As to why I voted Onegu (asked three times, by my count), he has made a claim (with the first post of the game) and then posted a non informative post. That's all he has done. I wanted to see what happens if he gets a bit of pressure on him, but after this amount of time I feel that he is just inactive.

On to my reads, Kmatt feels very much a scummy player to me becuase he is posting quite a bit now, but it doesn't feel like he is accomplishing anything. DarthFoley seems waaaay too defensive, so that seems odd, but I'll keep looking at him so I can get a more solid read. Vivax and MichaelEhrmantraut seem a bit off. Nothing suspicious, but just a bit not quite correct to me. This is more of a gut read than anything else, so I'll be doing a reread (probably today) for just them to see what's up.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 06 2017 22:37 GMT
#281
Oh, a vote on me! Well, my entrance was terrible, I do admit, but I did address why I did not follow up on Onegu (I just voted to see if he was here, apparently not). I also admit that I am not the most active right now, that's just due to real life. Just read my post here, but the TLDR is REAL LIFE limits my weekday activity.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 06 2017 22:43 GMT
#286
Oh I'm definately going to switch my vote, I'm just torn as to who. As soon as I can finish my read throughs, I'll post again about my reads. One more note, tommorrow I won't be online until about 2 hours before the deadline. I am sorry about this, but real life takes up a lot of my time.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 21:04 GMT
#672
Onegu, my vote on you was to try and spur you into action. If I said, "Oh I'm voting Onegu to see if he'll be active" then it's not a good pressure vote.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 21:21 GMT
#706
On January 07 2017 13:08 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 12:47 Onegu wrote:
She is town because she was the first to call Boston out. And then the back and forth with Vivax doesnt come from scum. Never Never Never. More so in a newbie game as someone who never played with most of the people in this game.

Let me just point out that this does not satisfy the requirements set forth, that you have now failed to meet the burden of proof, and you are dodging the question entirely.

Grack are you trying to cause conflict deliberately. This looks like a scum thing to do because it causes disorder and chaos. Instead of trying to get leads it devolves into a huge argument over burden of proof. I argue to any townie please do not fall into this trap.

This is an excellent point, one that I hadn't considered. I'll keep reading with this in mind.

Also update on a few reads, Vivax and Michael seem off to me still, but I can't put my finger on it.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 22:10 GMT
#778
well I think that since Grackaroni was Counter Claimed I best put my vote on him. Shame as I was leaning town on him.

##Vote Grackaroni

And yes I'll be much more active now that it is the weekend.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 22:12 GMT
#779
Well that seems rather sorted. is Instalynch a thing on this site?
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 22:16 GMT
#786
Thank you, good to know.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 22:19 GMT
#789
And I was town reading Grack mostly because I didn't notice anything overly suspicious other than creating confusion. This isn't something that I normally lynch people for.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 22:48 GMT
#808
Michael, your posts just seem.... off, in a way. I can't put my finger on it, but you seem wrong to me.

Also Grack, it was mostly a gut feeling more than anything else. You were playing stupidly, but it was a town sort of stupidity.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 23:08 GMT
#812
It's almost entirely gut feel, but okay..

so with B0stonSC bandwagon-ing onto someone's scum-read of me, when all I have done is posted thrice.


This feels super defensive and is wrong. I wasn't bandwagoning, I was just saying you felt off.

1. no
2. back in the day
3. no
4. ?
5. ?
6. nope


This, while not inharently AI, seems weird to me. I don't know you well enough to use this as a meta read, jokingly saying "oh I'm scum" to throw people off. I don't know you well enough, but this has happened in one of the games of mafia I've played. People just assumed the guy was Town only because he had been playing for a long while, and jokingly said "oh I'm scum." when asked during day 1.

So nothing that is a good case, but just a bit of explanation for my gut feeling.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 08 2017 00:35 GMT
#839
Why not post your tinfoil theory now?
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 09 2017 21:55 GMT
#1067
Okay Everyone right now I'm super torn. I feel that BTDT should be lynched, because he was a total idiot. However, I also think that is a waste of a lynch when the Scum team is (in my humble opinion) ME and KSC (don't know who the third is). But if I say, "oh let's not lynch BTDT" and he turns out to be scum, then I'll look bad, and will probably get lynched next. This is just what I feel the best play is for us, not lynching BTDT just yet. But since most of you seem to disagree with me, I don't think I'll be changing any minds.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 09 2017 22:20 GMT
#1069
Well for ME he hasn't been very active, and he doesn't give reads or really push the game forward at all. This seems counter intuitive to the goal of town players (push the game forward and solve the game). And, as we all know, the opposite of town is scum, hence my thoughts on him. For KSC he has posted less than three serious posts, with lots of posting being done.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 10 2017 23:32 GMT
#1145
On January 10 2017 07:33 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 07:20 B0stonSC wrote:
Well for ME he hasn't been very active, and he doesn't give reads or really push the game forward at all. This seems counter intuitive to the goal of town players (push the game forward and solve the game). And, as we all know, the opposite of town is scum, hence my thoughts on him. For KSC he has posted less than three serious posts, with lots of posting being done.


I think you're being selective here on how you scum-hunt (ME/ yourself and KSC/ Onegu).

I wouldn't say you are much better than ME and if you disagree then you should explain why that's the case. I get that you two are new and are struggling in some respects regardless of alignment but I think it's strange that you are calling out ME for that of all reasons.

Does your KSC logic also apply to Onegu? If not, what are the differences between the two of them in your eyes?


Yes it does apply to Onegu, but I'm not too terribly worried about him, and I know I am struggling, but I am trying my best.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 10 2017 23:52 GMT
#1156
On January 11 2017 08:35 SilverWolf77 wrote:
B0ston:

He votes for Onegu and calls him suspicious. Later says it was just pressure. This is a conflicting read and if he wanted to pressure Onegu, he should of asked. This comes off as nervous scum worried about voting for someone.

Spends a good chunk of time explaining his lack of activity and really he does this too much and is making too many excuses not to do anything.

Acts very nervous and defensive over the first vote on him.

He calls a lot of people off but never elaborates, it's like he's having trouble explaining any of his reads or reasoning because he can't.

His point on not calling someone town for saying they are scum actually is fine. I agree with it.

Argues against lynching btdt but says he's worried it would make him look bad-he shouldn't be worried about it if he's town.

I do have a scumread here but overall his filter is very weak with not much in it so I'm gonna go with null scum.


The reason I said Onegu was suspicious is because in my little experience, saying "Oh I'm voteing you because you need pressure" generally doesn't give any pressure.

This is from force of habit, as in the games I've played lack of activity and constant reading the thread gets you lynched without good reason (first two games I've played)

Well, can't really change or argue this.

I try and explain, it's just that a lot of my reads are gut feels instead of a solid reason. I then look for a reason, but my brain thinks their fine while my gut disagrees.

I am worried because if BTDT comes off as scum, then I might be lynched for defending my scum buddies.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 10 2017 23:53 GMT
#1157
also,

##Vote BTDT
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 10 2017 23:56 GMT
#1161
And one thought I've had about SW and ika is that what if they are both scum, and pushing townie lynches. Then I realize that if this is the case, then we are super screwed.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 11 2017 00:28 GMT
#1182
I'm with SW on this one. Maybe ME should be the next on our list? He sure is high on mine.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 11 2017 00:47 GMT
#1188
I'm hesitent of her due to the fact that you two could easily run the game together. But I agree on lynching ME, for several reasons. He seems super defensive, tried to skate by without any serious interaction for a long while, and he hasn't been (in my opinion) pushed the game forward at all...
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 11 2017 01:01 GMT
#1191
Well, I do try and push the game forward. But I do see your point, and it is hypocritical of me. However, I know I am town. I don't know he is..
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 11 2017 01:15 GMT
#1196
On January 11 2017 10:08 SilverWolf77 wrote:
What do people say to Calix, darthfoley, Onegu scumteam?



I woul disagree with Calix, and replace him with ME, (and I'll post why later. Need to get my arguement together for this one) but Onegu and darthfoley I would agree with.

Also ika I'll the points where I thought I was trying to push the game forward (though you'll probably disagree with me) after I finish getting my arguement for Calix being town together.
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 11 2017 01:29 GMT
#1198
Now, while I am filter diving, what were everyone's thoughts on KSC? Was he scummy enough in your books to deserve a lynch?
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 14 2017 02:39 GMT
#1664
Well that was fun, good game! hopefully next time I will do a better job. GG all, now when does the next game start?
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