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On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim Could you not lets act like ive never played mafia for a min: why? and i dont want to hear the "oh it narrows PR" crap (yes this is a vaild reason but anyone will argue this). Yes it is sub optimal in general but why are you opposed to it?...
Why would you advocate bad play?
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On January 06 2017 09:36 SilverWolf77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:
now onto something i want everyone to answer
are you town?
how long have you played mafia?
do you play elsewhere and if so where?
What is your typical play style?
how do you scumhunt/townhunt?
do you know anyone here that you can read very well? -yes -off and on about 2 years -I have played a couple at Mafia Universe and a few at SC2 -It depends on the gamestate, my role, etc. -I like to look for motivation in posts and I also check for a few other things I'd like to keep to myself for now, I do both townhunt and scumhunt in most games -I know Calix from SC2, she's a good player but I've only played in like 2-3 games so I can't say I can read her well, I know ika very well and am usually accurate in reading him when he's town, if he's scum it might take me a little longer to figure him out
What's townhunt
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On January 06 2017 09:39 Grackaroni wrote:
I'll answer the questions.
1) I'm always town.
2) 5 years
3) no
4) spammy
5) We'll have to find out.
6) Probably Calix.
Answer to 5) is really interesting here. If you choose to answer those questions, I think you could as well be honest about year meta. Because if you play to your alignment meta, it's really easy to identify if you are the opposite alignment (wow my wording is poor) so I'm wondering why Grack is not revealing what his meta is?
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Yeah I feel like Kelsier is town.
also I think Grackaroni is scum.
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On January 08 2017 04:37 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 04:31 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim Could you not lets act like ive never played mafia for a min: why? and i dont want to hear the "oh it narrows PR" crap (yes this is a vaild reason but anyone will argue this). Yes it is sub optimal in general but why are you opposed to it?... Why would you advocate bad play? I dont, I just find it that using that reason alone is the most obvious on why not to do it. I wanted more then just the generic one
But if there is a reason to not do something as town, then why do you do it?
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On January 08 2017 04:36 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 06 2017 09:02 KelsierSC wrote:
yeeeehhhhhhh booooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ksc most likely town for this. he hates playing scum afaik. That's a bad read and you should know that
Explain it to me then? Maybe I should not apply meta reads with people I haven't played with 
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On January 06 2017 14:13 Vivax wrote:Is there anyone here who actually didn't play mafia before, or just very very little? Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:31 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 10:43 Calix wrote:
I sense I'll have an aneurysm at this rate.
DF, you seem sensible. What else have you noticed so far? I actually feel weird about ika. Asked the kinda useless questionnaire and has basically been bs'ing a bit since. Not a real read but I find his opening a little off This read looks forced. I mean, you will say it isn't a read I know, but we both know it kind of is. And to me it just looks like you were looking for someone to make look guilty easily to fulfill Calix demand. Fend yourself, Foley.
This is really weird. Why do you ask the first question?
Then you say "bla looks forced" with a complicated reasoning which feels rather constructed? Also I think basically the same that darthfoley said about ikea so I don't think it's forced.
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Vivax who are your scumreads even because from your filter, I can't clearly deduce any.
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On January 07 2017 09:07 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 13:11 B0stonSC wrote:
yeah Onegu seems suspicious, so
##vote Onegu
Wow really. That makes me suspicious because I made 2 posts with no content then afk for 24 hours. Why is that scummy? If you say onegu needs pressure to do something then yeah I agree with you. But no you say I am suspicious... There is a difference.
Onegu is actually playing? I think that's a town tell and I'm inclined to believe his VT claim.
Also I kinda like that he dislikes Vivax.
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On January 08 2017 04:42 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 04:38 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 08 2017 04:37 ika42 wrote:On January 08 2017 04:31 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim Could you not lets act like ive never played mafia for a min: why? and i dont want to hear the "oh it narrows PR" crap (yes this is a vaild reason but anyone will argue this). Yes it is sub optimal in general but why are you opposed to it?... Why would you advocate bad play? I dont, I just find it that using that reason alone is the most obvious on why not to do it. I wanted more then just the generic one But if there is a reason to not do something as town, then why do you do it? I don't? The thing i was talking about is the claim right off the bat. When i first started out (about 4-5 years ago) it was what i would do cus i didn't give a damn. Now i would complain about someone doing it out of the gate. But not becasue "it narrows PR" Its more on the fact that it breeds out bad play in geenral and turns a site meta to shit and will almost always end up having day 1 be a debate about what is good and what is bad
Oh I'm dumb
I'm so dumb
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On January 08 2017 04:47 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 04:42 ika42 wrote:On January 08 2017 04:38 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 08 2017 04:37 ika42 wrote:On January 08 2017 04:31 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 06 2017 09:25 ika42 wrote:On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim Could you not lets act like ive never played mafia for a min: why? and i dont want to hear the "oh it narrows PR" crap (yes this is a vaild reason but anyone will argue this). Yes it is sub optimal in general but why are you opposed to it?... Why would you advocate bad play? I dont, I just find it that using that reason alone is the most obvious on why not to do it. I wanted more then just the generic one But if there is a reason to not do something as town, then why do you do it? I don't? The thing i was talking about is the claim right off the bat. When i first started out (about 4-5 years ago) it was what i would do cus i didn't give a damn. Now i would complain about someone doing it out of the gate. But not becasue "it narrows PR" Its more on the fact that it breeds out bad play in geenral and turns a site meta to shit and will almost always end up having day 1 be a debate about what is good and what is bad Oh I'm dumb I'm so dumb
I thought the "narrows down PR" stuff would have been about your weird questionnaire, so I was like "how is that bad" and "what the fuck" and didn't understand a thing.
I only get right now that it related to the claim stuff, yeah I get that.
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On January 08 2017 04:51 Calix wrote:Care to explain it in your own words?
Sure, sec
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The huge case on - B0stonSC
+ Show Spoiler [TL;DR] +
So, first:
On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts
This is on page 9. He has like 5 pages or so to go for. 10 minutes later, he posts as the very first thing an answer to the questionnaire.
That's it. Off to a re-read it is:
On January 06 2017 12:51 B0stonSC wrote:
About to go do a re read through, because Onegu hasn't posted anything of note since the game started (by of note, I mean anything I took note on)
Question is, why would you re-read the game at this stage? Maybe you missed a big scum-tell or a TMI call even? Was there a blue claim or something? But okay, if you have to re-read, you re-read.
But why tell the world about it? Why not just re-read? To have something to say.
Out of the re-read comes a Onegu vote:
On January 06 2017 13:11 B0stonSC wrote:
yeah Onegu seems suspicious, so
##vote Onegu
There's no reasoning. On the contrary, it's even the first person to have claimed something. Note how Onegu has made 3(!) posts in total (if I got the timestamps correctly). Here they are:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim On January 06 2017 09:39 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim Could you not I could. I did. Dont know what you want here... On January 06 2017 09:40 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 09:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim Why? Why not?
This is not really AI for the Onegu I got to know but of course it's very easy for someone who's new to the site to interpret this as scummy. So easy vote.
And then, the only contribution to the thread before he leaves:
On January 06 2017 15:32 B0stonSC wrote:
The hell is a zj?
Wow. Awesome! When he returns, he doublechecks for his vote which is NAI imho, so pass.
But apparently, the guys has caught up:
On January 07 2017 07:32 B0stonSC wrote:
Okay, so after catching up, I have a few things to respond on.
First, as to why I am not more active, is that I have not a whole lot of time to play mafia during the week, so what I am doing is catching up, responding to everything I feel needs a response, giving my reads, then getting back off. You may flame me for this, but unless it's the weekend this will be how I play. I do have a life you know, but mafia is a lot of fun (which is why I wanted to play it).
As to why I voted Onegu (asked three times, by my count), he has made a claim (with the first post of the game) and then posted a non informative post. That's all he has done. I wanted to see what happens if he gets a bit of pressure on him, but after this amount of time I feel that he is just inactive.
On to my reads, Kmatt feels very much a scummy player to me becuase he is posting quite a bit now, but it doesn't feel like he is accomplishing anything. DarthFoley seems waaaay too defensive, so that seems odd, but I'll keep looking at him so I can get a more solid read. Vivax and MichaelEhrmantraut seem a bit off. Nothing suspicious, but just a bit not quite correct to me. This is more of a gut read than anything else, so I'll be doing a reread (probably today) for just them to see what's up.
The thing is, we HAVE weekend and there's literally nothing that improved in terms of activity so there's a lie. He's not even around right now, or is he.
He explains the Onegu vote with "I want to pressure him" which should be a good idea. But if you're absolutely not grounding your pressure on anything, how is it real pressure? It will work out against you and I assume that he'll know that.
His reads are off. Like, here's a "gut feeling", there's a "seems off" , there's a "seems odd", but he'll of course keep looking at them. That's so wishy washy. Absolutely not liking that.
Promises another reread....
On January 07 2017 07:37 B0stonSC wrote:
Oh, a vote on me! Well, my entrance was terrible, I do admit, but I did address why I did not follow up on Onegu (I just voted to see if he was here, apparently not). I also admit that I am not the most active right now, that's just due to real life. Just read my post here, but the TLDR is REAL LIFE limits my weekday activity.
Yeah now it's weekend where are you
On January 07 2017 07:43 B0stonSC wrote:
Oh I'm definately going to switch my vote, I'm just torn as to who. As soon as I can finish my read throughs, I'll post again about my reads. One more note, tommorrow I won't be online until about 2 hours before the deadline. I am sorry about this, but real life takes up a lot of my time.
I'M NOT VOTING ONEGU BECAUSE PEOPLE SCUMREAD ME FOR IT
GEEZ GUYS IM NOT DOING IT I CANT BE SCUM
this guy is scum
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On January 08 2017 04:44 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 04:35 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 06 2017 09:39 Grackaroni wrote:
I'll answer the questions.
1) I'm always town.
2) 5 years
3) no
4) spammy
5) We'll have to find out.
6) Probably Calix. Answer to 5) is really interesting here. If you choose to answer those questions, I think you could as well be honest about year meta. Because if you play to your alignment meta, it's really easy to identify if you are the opposite alignment (wow my wording is poor) so I'm wondering why Grack is not revealing what his meta is? This is opportunistic reasoning. He's only saying this because my lynch is currently on the table and he wants to find something to use against me.
It's not opportunistic. It's just a thing that bothers me. When I wrote that, I didn't even realize you are the lynch currently. Also note how I just cased someone else so no, it's absolutely not opportunistic but I can see where you come from.
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Calix as you're easily the most active person here would you mind to drop a clear list of your top scum reads? Just names, no reasons. I want to know where you're at.
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On January 08 2017 05:06 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 05:03 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 08 2017 04:44 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 04:35 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 06 2017 09:39 Grackaroni wrote:
I'll answer the questions.
1) I'm always town.
2) 5 years
3) no
4) spammy
5) We'll have to find out.
6) Probably Calix. Answer to 5) is really interesting here. If you choose to answer those questions, I think you could as well be honest about year meta. Because if you play to your alignment meta, it's really easy to identify if you are the opposite alignment (wow my wording is poor) so I'm wondering why Grack is not revealing what his meta is? This is opportunistic reasoning. He's only saying this because my lynch is currently on the table and he wants to find something to use against me. It's not opportunistic. It's just a thing that bothers me. When I wrote that, I didn't even realize you are the lynch currently. Also note how I just cased someone else so no, it's absolutely not opportunistic but I can see where you come from. Yeah fair enough. To me it seemed inconsequential enough that I found it scummy you would try to make a big deal of it right now considering the circumstances.
Tbh I was just catching up and commenting while doing so, but I realized I spammed the thread by a lot which was kinda worthless so I stopped and got into filters. Which made me find the guy I cased 
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