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On January 12 2017 11:00 Onegu wrote:
At ika and calix
We are not going to lynch the 2 people with the biggest filter with 3 mafia alive in mylo. So if you want to keep your reads but you two are not the lynch today...
Unless I've misunderstood something, we're faced with triple MYLO so I don't think letting scummy behaviour slide from a person unlikely to die today is a good idea. It just means that it's a normal day but with us being especially focused on who the lynch is.
At least that's how I am going to play it.
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On January 12 2017 11:21 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 11:06 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 11:00 Onegu wrote:
At ika and calix
We are not going to lynch the 2 people with the biggest filter with 3 mafia alive in mylo. So if you want to keep your reads but you two are not the lynch today... Unless I've misunderstood something, we're faced with triple MYLO so I don't think letting scummy behaviour slide from a person unlikely to die today is a good idea. It just means that it's a normal day but with us being especially focused on who the lynch is. At least that's how I am going to play it. A few reasons. First keeping up this activity as scum is difficult for newer players. Especially when a game like this doesnt have much activity. It gives both of you town points. Second it makes you guys likely to be night kills. If one of you dies and the other doesnt makes it easier for the other players to take a closer look at the other one. So even though we are in triple lylo I would prefer to not lynch the large filter players. I will look into both of you, but if you guys want to lynch each other I want a detailed case, 1 post with links and point by point reasons. Even then I think Boston or Reps is a better lynch.
Both of us have played off-site so we're not inexperienced. I'm more new by TL 'veteran player' standards as this is my fifth game here.
Having everyone be looked at is the best move, I think. Don't want anyone getting a pass and skating by.
I have to sleep soon because I have to pack up and leave in the morning but I'll be doing this when I get settled down. Activity for tomorrow is going to be poor which sucks given the forced MYLO -.-
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On January 12 2017 12:00 Damdred wrote:
I just think that calix is town here and i'm unsure what to make of whats goign to happen today. Like I don't think anyone is going to cc Kmatt and I probably wouldn't believe Boston at this point since hes the only one who hasn't been in thread today. I am going to sleep early and shoudl be back to actually scum hunt. But looking at the vote count makes me feel a bit strange, like squish has to be scum if boston is scum and that would be a weird mylo at the end. anyway be back
Does it feel weird because Boston is the leading wagon? Because I was thinking about whether that was AI and I came back empty-handed.
If he's town then it's pretty simple, the scum are happily letting him get MLed.
If he's scum then it gets messy. For starters, we have only lynched among the counter-claimers so there's little to be gleaned from VCA on both days. So you can't infer whether the Boston wagon progression on D1 means a lot since that was the only time that he was at risk of being lynched and you can't see if anyone was making an effort to subtly deflect off Boston the following days.
Also hard to tell much from the votes since the main suspect is MIA, the other suspect is voting for the guy he's been scum-reading for the past few cycles and everyone else agrees that both of them are scummy. If those two are on a team (which is possible interactions-wise) then there isn't going to be a lot of resistance to them dying since the third guy is more likely to bus hard and try to stick it out in a 4v2/ 3v1 than risk going down on a sinking ship.
In short, there's not enough information to know what the situation is.
Did Boston even turn up during the night phase?
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On January 12 2017 18:52 Calix wrote:
Did Boston even turn up during the night phase?
That's a yes.
Reread his filter to see if any of the points against him were exaggerated. Answer is no. If anything his filter is worse than I recall it being. Shitloads of apologies, reads follow thread sentiment, cares too much about how he's perceived by others, wishy-washy on both Grack and BTDT, was planning on making a town case on me of all the things - that's the tl;dr since he lacks progression with his reads/ posts and he doesn't have many posts where he's posting without being prompted to do so.
I did note that Boston thought reps made a great point about Grack causing chaos which is the only mention of reps I found and it's the only time he openly agrees with someone but I'm not sure if this is AI.
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On January 12 2017 20:43 Onegu wrote:
Boston should have been the day 1 lynch I need to go back and look who said it was a bad lynch and was filling up to fast.
Off the top of my head, SW and I were the people who were wary of people jumping on Boston. BTDT came into the thread with a crappy wall-post on Boston that didn't actually show scum motivation and generally, people who try to find new reasons to vote a train that already has steam are scum trying to hide a bandwagon vote.
I also remember not liking reps' vote on Boston because it looked sheepy as hell and he hasn't followed up on the Boston read iirc.
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On January 13 2017 01:47 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 17:24 ika42 wrote:
I don't see much of a reason to overall.
I mean from your and my pov we know there must be one scum in the dam/calix/1g grouping
So I'm weary of just voting there outright to begin with. Will I prob
Vote it in the end? Yes
I just don't have much motivation right now I'm not so sure if there is one scum in that grouping at all though. The fight between you and calix just screams t v t right now, both of you are a bit BM to an extent. And honestly what do you think about B0ston that hes town? You would have to believe that if you 100% go with the list that was left. But why when there is actually good evidence to the contrary you are sort of ignoring at this juncture?
To be honest, I was mostly pissed off at him sheeping his GF without any critical thinking. And I still don't think that makes any fucking sense but apparently everyone else seems to think there's nothing wrong there. idgi
It's also atrocious MYLO play but I know he isn't going to listen to me because "lol Calix's scum, won't consider anything she says" or whatever.
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On January 13 2017 01:55 darthfoley wrote:
Like the guy hasn't posted in a long time. Maybe demotivated mafia not wanting to incriminate partners further? Hmmm, I'll need to reread his filter
In terms of activity, we should still lynch him. I don't want to fuck around with "but he might get modkilled" bullshit or risk him pulling a ritoky with a ninja vote, lol.
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I read the Boston/ Onegu thing and I don't think it's SvS either. It's not "showy" enough imo for it to be a setup for Onegu getting all the town credz. Onegu just states his read and doesn't seem to have an agenda of trying to look good from it while Boston is put on the defensive.
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Why does everyone have to fuck off the moment I get in here? lol
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On January 13 2017 02:28 Damdred wrote:
I'm here now! just playing with my puppy mwhaha i'll be in and out for a bit though.
it makes onegu town. So that leave (to you) 3 of the most active people in the game as the last scum besides squishy what do you think about the ika stuff?
Will have to reread the argument/ his filter since I'm biased atm, but his D3 posting so far has been complete crap, no scum-hunting or willingness to be open-minded whatsoever.
I do think that it's one of you two though for the last scummer though. You're extremely "meh" while ika has dropped off hard after D2 and it seems like you're aware of this. I can see you two as the "end-game" potential for scum, basically.
DF's been pretty townie for most of the game, he seems to improve as the game progresses and he's not playing like he did in his scum-game. Like if he's scum here then I'd be impressed, lol.
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On January 13 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
Yeah but on the same side I kinda started the B0ston lynch instead of settling on onegu with all of you and letting the one twon lose the game basically.
And just as an aside its extremely bad scum play to start clearing people like I did ME (shitty reasons but right) and Onegu. Who are both potential mislynches.
Of course i'll be meh i've been in game like 36 hours at most but have found two scums so far. So thats not so meh after all hehe
I don't think who votes for someone first in MYLO is a town tell, sorry to break it to you 
Your second point is kinda why I have doubts about you because you initially jumped into the game and was like "oh DF's probably scum" and explained it and then he made this one post and you dropped it. At this point, I'm not sure that scum would set up a scum-read like that and then drop it so quick.
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On January 13 2017 02:40 Damdred wrote:
Not really to interested in defending myself yet though.
Not sure why you think i'm meh though (though you always do to some extent)
Yeah I always think you're scummy so that doesn't help since I won't know when you are actually scum, lol. I think it's the way you talk because I recall getting hung up on how you worded XYZ or something in the past.
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On January 13 2017 02:46 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2017 02:43 Calix wrote:On January 13 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
Yeah but on the same side I kinda started the B0ston lynch instead of settling on onegu with all of you and letting the one twon lose the game basically.
And just as an aside its extremely bad scum play to start clearing people like I did ME (shitty reasons but right) and Onegu. Who are both potential mislynches.
Of course i'll be meh i've been in game like 36 hours at most but have found two scums so far. So thats not so meh after all hehe I don't think who votes for someone first in MYLO is a town tell, sorry to break it to you Your second point is kinda why I have doubts about you because you initially jumped into the game and was like "oh DF's probably scum" and explained it and then he made this one post and you dropped it. At this point, I'm not sure that scum would set up a scum-read like that and then drop it so quick. Naw i'm nto saying first vote is a town tell, i'm saying that there is no way that its good scum play in tripple mylo to give both of your scum mates up and then clear two easy lynches. But its not really worth talking about. I did find scum though I thin in squishy and b0ston. So not sure why none of this is playing into your read except of one read proression i made?
Because the only person in the game that doesn't think those two are scummy is ika.
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For the record, I prefer reading your ika arguments as opposed to defending yourself 
Especially as I've just realised that I have absolutely no food in my house so have to sort out that.
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On January 13 2017 21:18 ika42 wrote:
Finally off overnights till Sunday.
I briefly read up and I'm gonna address the quick thing that I saw that calix mentioned
Calix, you yourself has said you have played very little in the mylo/mylo (cus you did so much) I have played more then I can enjoy so seeing how votes are not locked and there's no majority I am considering all options right now. I mean if bos is town, gg.
If he's scum it's clear someone is bussing cus we have a 4v3 situation and you have to realize yourself that not everyone voting can be town at this point. So I'm scum hunting for the person who is bussing. That includes you
Why are you talking to me like you think I'm town? You've been saying "Calix is scum" for most of the game but the last line looks like you're legitimately trying to convince me that you're really scum-hunting and shit.
Speaking of which, how the hell have you been scum-hunting today? Arguing with me doesn't count, lol.
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On January 14 2017 02:27 ika42 wrote:
oh the case is about logic.
well news flash: i dont care for logic and never will
Still using this mantra, I see.
No shade, but why do you sign up for games if this is your attitude to playing them?
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On January 14 2017 03:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm not buddyign you i'm trying to actually get you to play instead of tilting over nothing.
there is roughly 5 hours before the lynch happens if you don't think b0ston is scum nows not the time to hold back when you know we lose if hes town?
I think Squishy is mafia and I think B0ston is mafia. Am I wrong on either and why exactly?
Yeah I don't get what the point is with limping into the thread and saying that we're auto-pilot on Boston and reps (who he doesn't scum-read) without doing anything to change anyone's mind.
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On January 14 2017 04:12 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 04:11 darthfoley wrote:
Why are you acting like the only motivation behind killing SW would've been her read on you? name a different motivation. i've named several others but all ive been told is that im wrong
Trying to pin down NKs to individual motivations doesn't work when you have multiple scum team members left in the game.
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On January 14 2017 04:13 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 04:10 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 03:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm not buddyign you i'm trying to actually get you to play instead of tilting over nothing.
there is roughly 5 hours before the lynch happens if you don't think b0ston is scum nows not the time to hold back when you know we lose if hes town?
I think Squishy is mafia and I think B0ston is mafia. Am I wrong on either and why exactly? Yeah I don't get what the point is with limping into the thread and saying that we're auto-pilot on Boston and reps (who he doesn't scum-read) without doing anything to change anyone's mind. so i should afk instead?
No, I'd rather hear your thoughts on why either of them are town or why one of your scum-reads are scum.
Preferably both but I'll take baby steps.
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On January 14 2017 04:17 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 04:04 Calix wrote:On January 13 2017 21:18 ika42 wrote:
Finally off overnights till Sunday.
I briefly read up and I'm gonna address the quick thing that I saw that calix mentioned
Calix, you yourself has said you have played very little in the mylo/mylo (cus you did so much) I have played more then I can enjoy so seeing how votes are not locked and there's no majority I am considering all options right now. I mean if bos is town, gg.
If he's scum it's clear someone is bussing cus we have a 4v3 situation and you have to realize yourself that not everyone voting can be town at this point. So I'm scum hunting for the person who is bussing. That includes you Why are you talking to me like you think I'm town? You've been saying "Calix is scum" for most of the game but the last line looks like you're legitimately trying to convince me that you're really scum-hunting and shit. Speaking of which, how the hell have you been scum-hunting today? Arguing with me doesn't count, lol. ive had you between null and scum most of the game. arguing with you is how i have been scum hunting you. the rest of the time i have been busy. do i consider you possible town? yes am i sold on you being town? no you again, have said "never dont lylo/mylo" how you do it (or at least how i do it) is i scratch all my reads, read the most trusted dead person (or jsut the last nk) and go form there most times votes would end on majority so without that its diffrent cus you dont have the basic "1v1" each time.
Right.
What did you get out of the argument if you were scum-hunting me there?
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