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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 07 2016 12:30 GMT
#1321
On November 07 2016 21:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Skynx / Foreman / DF

I think the one who's not mafia in there just misread his rolecard.


lmao

I am not worried. The Investigative can just check among those three if they haven't done so already.

If we lynch scum today (likely given we have Skynx here) then we can probably win this by not being complete morons with role-claims. Just get the scummy players to claim wherever they are TPR or VT first or something and go from there.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2016 12:44 GMT
#1322
On November 07 2016 21:10 Calix wrote:
Also I've only skimmed a few pages of Rels' filter in 72hrs. I'm not super-convinced since he seems to play very similarly as both alignments (from what I've seen so far) but I noticed that a) his points against players are basic as fuck, b) he throws more shade/ doubt than he does here, c) is more malleable.

Well I got point b from that JAT game but that's just from opening posts because no way am I reading 29 fucking pages.

Not really sure what Rels' point is unless he's saying "I am capable of making cases on lynchbait as scum and I'm not doing that here"

Which would make sense...given that's a reason that he town-reads me.

lmao

I don't understand the last sentence p:
My point is that when I play scum I'm the opposite of here: my reads look good 'cause I always position myself to be a scum survivor, but my arguments don't make people scum. Here you're attacking me on my ExO read because it was "badly timed" let's say, which is something I don't do as scum. I'll tell you what I would have done; exactly what I did in the JAT game; continue attacking my target (Tumblewood in JAT, DF here) until he's finally lynched 'cause when you scream that someone is scummy for enough days, they always end up being lynched at some point.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 07 2016 12:49 GMT
#1323
On November 07 2016 21:44 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 21:10 Calix wrote:
Also I've only skimmed a few pages of Rels' filter in 72hrs. I'm not super-convinced since he seems to play very similarly as both alignments (from what I've seen so far) but I noticed that a) his points against players are basic as fuck, b) he throws more shade/ doubt than he does here, c) is more malleable.

Well I got point b from that JAT game but that's just from opening posts because no way am I reading 29 fucking pages.

Not really sure what Rels' point is unless he's saying "I am capable of making cases on lynchbait as scum and I'm not doing that here"

Which would make sense...given that's a reason that he town-reads me.

lmao

I don't understand the last sentence p:
My point is that when I play scum I'm the opposite of here: my reads look good 'cause I always position myself to be a scum survivor, but my arguments don't make people scum. Here you're attacking me on my ExO read because it was "badly timed" let's say, which is something I don't do as scum. I'll tell you what I would have done; exactly what I did in the JAT game; continue attacking my target (Tumblewood in JAT, DF here) until he's finally lynched 'cause when you scream that someone is scummy for enough days, they always end up being lynched at some point.


What I was trying to say there is that my read on your play is kind of like your read on my play. Basically we are kind-of-but-not-really suspecting each other because "they r like rly gud at scum but they're not playing to their scum meta...but still might be scum cos they're rly gud"

Although yeah, I was informed that you can be relentless as scum. That's something I picked up from what other people said about you more than anything else though.

Even with that said, I am not sure if you, as scum, would have picked me of all people as your fall-back target if Foreman, etc is town since a shit-fight between the two of us would likely result in you losing <3
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
November 07 2016 13:12 GMT
#1324
All personal attacks to are cease beyond this point.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2016 13:42 GMT
#1325
On November 07 2016 21:49 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 21:44 Rels wrote:
On November 07 2016 21:10 Calix wrote:
Also I've only skimmed a few pages of Rels' filter in 72hrs. I'm not super-convinced since he seems to play very similarly as both alignments (from what I've seen so far) but I noticed that a) his points against players are basic as fuck, b) he throws more shade/ doubt than he does here, c) is more malleable.

Well I got point b from that JAT game but that's just from opening posts because no way am I reading 29 fucking pages.

Not really sure what Rels' point is unless he's saying "I am capable of making cases on lynchbait as scum and I'm not doing that here"

Which would make sense...given that's a reason that he town-reads me.

lmao

I don't understand the last sentence p:
My point is that when I play scum I'm the opposite of here: my reads look good 'cause I always position myself to be a scum survivor, but my arguments don't make people scum. Here you're attacking me on my ExO read because it was "badly timed" let's say, which is something I don't do as scum. I'll tell you what I would have done; exactly what I did in the JAT game; continue attacking my target (Tumblewood in JAT, DF here) until he's finally lynched 'cause when you scream that someone is scummy for enough days, they always end up being lynched at some point.


What I was trying to say there is that my read on your play is kind of like your read on my play. Basically we are kind-of-but-not-really suspecting each other because "they r like rly gud at scum but they're not playing to their scum meta...but still might be scum cos they're rly gud"

Although yeah, I was informed that you can be relentless as scum. That's something I picked up from what other people said about you more than anything else though.

Even with that said, I am not sure if you, as scum, would have picked me of all people as your fall-back target if Foreman, etc is town since a shit-fight between the two of us would likely result in you losing <3

That remains to be seen <3
But that's true as scum I prefer to attack the easiest targets
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
November 07 2016 14:59 GMT
#1326
Vote Count

Foreman (3) : NeverUnlucky, Calix (X), Tictock, darthfoley
Skynx (2) : darthfoley (X), Rels, Calix
Rels (0) : Calix (X)

Not voting (2) : Foreman, Skynx

Currently, Foreman is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Monday, Nov 07 5:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 3 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.

If you see any vote out of place, let us know.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2016 16:10 GMT
#1327
Meh activity is meh.
I'm leaving work soon, I'll be AFK until something like 30 minutes before deadline. Not staying at work like I did during D1 if there is nothing to discuss.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 07 2016 16:44 GMT
#1328
Yea this is kinda bleh.

I feel like I could go either way with Skynx's emo posts, but his actual content doesn't inspire much confidence. The case on NU looks more like he just grabbed posts out of NU's filter and threw in comments than a real read. The lack of any other reads is worrysome, no real explanation on why he thinks I'm town now (I think that's the case) or why he doesn't like Darth. There is also irony there since half his case on NU is that NU is dropping reads without giving reasons.

The only thing that is giving me pause atm, and it's more WIFOM thinking so take it with some salt, is that if the scumteam is Skynx/Foreman then why the hell is this game still going?
I can take that responsibility.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 07 2016 16:47 GMT
#1329
On November 08 2016 01:44 Tictock wrote:
Yea this is kinda bleh.

I feel like I could go either way with Skynx's emo posts, but his actual content doesn't inspire much confidence. The case on NU looks more like he just grabbed posts out of NU's filter and threw in comments than a real read. The lack of any other reads is worrysome, no real explanation on why he thinks I'm town now (I think that's the case) or why he doesn't like Darth. There is also irony there since half his case on NU is that NU is dropping reads without giving reasons.

The only thing that is giving me pause atm, and it's more WIFOM thinking so take it with some salt, is that if the scumteam is Skynx/Foreman then why the hell is this game still going?


Huh?

Skynx is still active and none of the mafia have died yet. Why would the game have stopped?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 07 2016 16:48 GMT
#1330
But yes, I agree that if the scum team is Skynx/ Foreman and one of them dies today then game should end in an hour because it's inevitable that town would win in that scenario.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 07 2016 17:08 GMT
#1331
Eh I still think I preffer a Foreman lynch. Skimmed over Skynx's filter again and he's put in more effort than I would expect from him as scum in this position. There are a few posts throughout his filter that give me some pause too.

On November 05 2016 02:48 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:45 mahrgell wrote:
Okay, I just made it back and finished reading up. I see no reason to change my vote. Exo's posts past my case have ust reinforced my impression further. I guess we see him flip and continue from there. I finally want to dive into Skynx/DF and TT. ^.^ Should be doing that before this nights Habs game if family doesn't keep me busy. Otherwise I for sure will have it done before end of the night.

At this point I'm actually a bit surprised how I'm suddenly everybodys darling. I guess I want to look i this progression too, as I feel kinda buddied here.

Then again... lets flip Exo first... This certainly will provide interesting information.

Bolded IS SO SCUMMY.

Guys, ExO is very very likely town.

WIFOM ALERT WIFOM ALERT


On November 05 2016 02:58 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:57 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:55 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:54 ExO_ wrote:
If there is one thing you do please listen to me:

You need to figure out the scum out of Rels/TT/NU


They are going to try to push suspicion on to people like skynx here. Do not let them. I'm speaking to all of you town, figure out which one of them is scum and lynch them


These kinds of posts are making me think ExO is town.

Fuck.

I'll just say that if you are town then I'll keep this in mind.

inb4 Skynx calls out Calix for distancing

/unignore

Calix has reasons to vote Exo, unlike somebody.

/ignore


These don't really feel like they come from scum imo, feels more like tunneled town.

My dilemma here is that I don't really have good reasons to think Skynx might be town just a few things that make me question if he is actually mafia. I also think a Skynx/Foreman team is pretty possible given their interactions.

So, I think I'm just going to leave my vote on Foreman.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 07 2016 17:13 GMT
#1332
On November 08 2016 01:47 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 01:44 Tictock wrote:
Yea this is kinda bleh.

I feel like I could go either way with Skynx's emo posts, but his actual content doesn't inspire much confidence. The case on NU looks more like he just grabbed posts out of NU's filter and threw in comments than a real read. The lack of any other reads is worrysome, no real explanation on why he thinks I'm town now (I think that's the case) or why he doesn't like Darth. There is also irony there since half his case on NU is that NU is dropping reads without giving reasons.

The only thing that is giving me pause atm, and it's more WIFOM thinking so take it with some salt, is that if the scumteam is Skynx/Foreman then why the hell is this game still going?


Huh?

Skynx is still active and none of the mafia have died yet. Why would the game have stopped?


Yea I know, but they aren't in a very winnable position given we still have potential blue actions to help.

It's also very possible it is them and they are just holding out to see if we get cold feet. So yea, it's WIFOM I maybe shouldn't bring to the table.
I can take that responsibility.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 07 2016 17:14 GMT
#1333
I don't understand how you can possibly have doubts about Skynx after his re-entrance. There is no overarching town motivation behind his posts and his meta doesn't match up to his town meta. Also don't see how being passive-aggressive is a town tell.

You literally do not need to see if every single post comes from town/ mafia. You only need one post where someone makes a post that makes no sense for town to make and it's game over. Case closed. Alignment solved.

I don't actually give a shit which one dies today. I just can't believe that you think Skynx has a chance at being town.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 07 2016 17:14 GMT
#1334
On November 08 2016 02:08 Tictock wrote:
Eh I still think I preffer a Foreman lynch. Skimmed over Skynx's filter again and he's put in more effort than I would expect from him as scum in this position. There are a few posts throughout his filter that give me some pause too.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:48 Skynx wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:45 mahrgell wrote:
Okay, I just made it back and finished reading up. I see no reason to change my vote. Exo's posts past my case have ust reinforced my impression further. I guess we see him flip and continue from there. I finally want to dive into Skynx/DF and TT. ^.^ Should be doing that before this nights Habs game if family doesn't keep me busy. Otherwise I for sure will have it done before end of the night.

At this point I'm actually a bit surprised how I'm suddenly everybodys darling. I guess I want to look i this progression too, as I feel kinda buddied here.

Then again... lets flip Exo first... This certainly will provide interesting information.

Bolded IS SO SCUMMY.

Guys, ExO is very very likely town.

WIFOM ALERT WIFOM ALERT


Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:58 Skynx wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:57 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:55 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:54 ExO_ wrote:
If there is one thing you do please listen to me:

You need to figure out the scum out of Rels/TT/NU


They are going to try to push suspicion on to people like skynx here. Do not let them. I'm speaking to all of you town, figure out which one of them is scum and lynch them


These kinds of posts are making me think ExO is town.

Fuck.

I'll just say that if you are town then I'll keep this in mind.

inb4 Skynx calls out Calix for distancing

/unignore

Calix has reasons to vote Exo, unlike somebody.

/ignore


These don't really feel like they come from scum imo, feels more like tunneled town.

My dilemma here is that I don't really have good reasons to think Skynx might be town just a few things that make me question if he is actually mafia. I also think a Skynx/Foreman team is pretty possible given their interactions.

So, I think I'm just going to leave my vote on Foreman.

Why do you think Foreman is scum? I don't think you've explained it before (if you haz sowwy).
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
November 07 2016 17:18 GMT
#1335
On November 08 2016 02:14 Calix wrote:
I don't understand how you can possibly have doubts about Skynx after his re-entrance. There is no overarching town motivation behind his posts and his meta doesn't match up to his town meta. Also don't see how being passive-aggressive is a town tell.

You literally do not need to see if every single post comes from town/ mafia. You only need one post where someone makes a post that makes no sense for town to make and it's game over. Case closed. Alignment solved.

I don't actually give a shit which one dies today. I just can't believe that you think Skynx has a chance at being town.

Didn't you say something about his entry matching his town meta before?

There's also one post I've noted in DF's filter that pretty much townclears him if I'm good. So I really think that the scum team is Skynx / Foreman atm. If it is, it means that you'll have to endure me bragging that I had both as scum-reads day 1 for the next couple weeks.

The only reason I'm keeping my vote on Foreman is because my vote shows up first in the VC, and it'll look good when he flips red.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 07 2016 17:21 GMT
#1336
On November 08 2016 02:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 02:14 Calix wrote:
I don't understand how you can possibly have doubts about Skynx after his re-entrance. There is no overarching town motivation behind his posts and his meta doesn't match up to his town meta. Also don't see how being passive-aggressive is a town tell.

You literally do not need to see if every single post comes from town/ mafia. You only need one post where someone makes a post that makes no sense for town to make and it's game over. Case closed. Alignment solved.

I don't actually give a shit which one dies today. I just can't believe that you think Skynx has a chance at being town.

Didn't you say something about his entry matching his town meta before?

There's also one post I've noted in DF's filter that pretty much townclears him if I'm good. So I really think that the scum team is Skynx / Foreman atm. If it is, it means that you'll have to endure me bragging that I had both as scum-reads day 1 for the next couple weeks.

The only reason I'm keeping my vote on Foreman is because my vote shows up first in the VC, and it'll look good when he flips red.


If you mean my read with him talking shit about everyone then yes. Otherwise not sure what you'd refer to. That also isn't something that makes him 100% town, no questions, otherwise I would have said that.

Good thing I already made the decision to ignore you then.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 07 2016 17:30 GMT
#1337
Shit, I think I'm changing my mind actually. Looking over Foreman's filter I'm seeing a few posts I like.

On November 04 2016 03:26 Foreman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 02:28 darthfoley wrote:
On November 04 2016 01:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Perhaps you have reads you would like to share? c:


Sure

I think Foreman is most town to me.



Please explain. I'm rarely "most town" on sites I play regularly, so this feels off with no explanation.


Pretty unusual for scum to question people's townreads on them, especially since this would be Foreman's first scum game here.

On November 04 2016 06:02 Foreman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
Foreman, can you give your thoughts on Skynx' wall-posts?

As for ExO, I missed #600. I'm not sure I agree. He says "I think ExO is scum but if he isn't then he's only a VT and is useless so he can die"

He thinks you're scum, ergo you're lying about being VT. All he does is rule out the possibility of you being TPR. I don't see inconsistency here.


His wall posts don't line up with the mindset of somebody that considers themselves low hanging fruit.


This is a decent point to make about Skynx.

There was a couple other things too, but they are more or less in the same vein.

So,

##Unvote
##Vote: Skynx


Although now I'm getting a bit paranoid that we are just going after bad townies all game long.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 07 2016 17:31 GMT
#1338
On November 08 2016 02:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 02:08 Tictock wrote:
Eh I still think I preffer a Foreman lynch. Skimmed over Skynx's filter again and he's put in more effort than I would expect from him as scum in this position. There are a few posts throughout his filter that give me some pause too.

On November 05 2016 02:48 Skynx wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:45 mahrgell wrote:
Okay, I just made it back and finished reading up. I see no reason to change my vote. Exo's posts past my case have ust reinforced my impression further. I guess we see him flip and continue from there. I finally want to dive into Skynx/DF and TT. ^.^ Should be doing that before this nights Habs game if family doesn't keep me busy. Otherwise I for sure will have it done before end of the night.

At this point I'm actually a bit surprised how I'm suddenly everybodys darling. I guess I want to look i this progression too, as I feel kinda buddied here.

Then again... lets flip Exo first... This certainly will provide interesting information.

Bolded IS SO SCUMMY.

Guys, ExO is very very likely town.

WIFOM ALERT WIFOM ALERT


On November 05 2016 02:58 Skynx wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:57 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:55 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:54 ExO_ wrote:
If there is one thing you do please listen to me:

You need to figure out the scum out of Rels/TT/NU


They are going to try to push suspicion on to people like skynx here. Do not let them. I'm speaking to all of you town, figure out which one of them is scum and lynch them


These kinds of posts are making me think ExO is town.

Fuck.

I'll just say that if you are town then I'll keep this in mind.

inb4 Skynx calls out Calix for distancing

/unignore

Calix has reasons to vote Exo, unlike somebody.

/ignore


These don't really feel like they come from scum imo, feels more like tunneled town.

My dilemma here is that I don't really have good reasons to think Skynx might be town just a few things that make me question if he is actually mafia. I also think a Skynx/Foreman team is pretty possible given their interactions.

So, I think I'm just going to leave my vote on Foreman.

Why do you think Foreman is scum? I don't think you've explained it before (if you haz sowwy).


Mostly PoE + his absence from the game.
I can take that responsibility.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 07 2016 17:32 GMT
#1339
##Vote: Darthfoley

Just avoiding modkill hihihi
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
November 07 2016 17:33 GMT
#1340
lol TT. You are the reason that this game isn't going to end prematurely, let me just say that now

I'm almost hoping that one of these two wankers is town. Then the game will actually become interesting again and there'll be more discussion.
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