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Foreman
United States88 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:05 Tictock wrote: Calix and Marghal (or w/e) are my top town atm. Mostly everything they have done has been to push the game forward and have been looking at multiple people from multiple angles. Skynx is a little shitter for trying to imply that this early game is NAI. This is prob the least jokey start of a game I have every seen. Kinda null on him despite his early posts seeming unlikely to come from scum imo. I kinda think NU is town but I'm not really sure why, just feels natural and relaxed I guess. In the same vein I kinda liked Dark's one post too so they are both townleaning nulls. Your reads are not complete shite. I actually think ExO is town though, just tunneled. It's not a great read on my part but I felt like he was being genuine. Sure, his behaviour sucks and it's possible that he's hypersensitive scum lashing back but I just got that vibe. He did drop off after the initial push so I'd like his thoughts but as it stands, I lean-town read him. I agree with your assessments of Skynx and Darth. I found nothing objectionable with the latter's post. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 03 2016 06:53 Calix wrote: What made you think Foreman was 'lock scum' in the first place? He jumped on you for being try-hard and didn't have an opinion on anyone else. Took him a full page of filter before he even talked about anyone else, and even then it was only a segway based on his read on you. | ||
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Foreman
United States88 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:10 Tictock wrote: He jumped on you for being try-hard and didn't have an opinion on anyone else. Took him a full page of filter before he even talked about anyone else, and even then it was only a segway based on his read on you. Segue. | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:00 Calix wrote: Are you really doing this, NU? You have the entirety of CM where I tunneled you on multiple occasions (causing a TvT) and you're trying to use that argument again? I am not even tunneling you this round so you are being extremely inconsistent with your logic. Your 'argument' can be so easily disproved that I'm concluding that you're full of shit. I'm even more confident in my vote. You're voting me based on 1 post for which I debunked everything. Yes, in CM I KNEW you were town. You were obvious town. You're suggesting that this is a TvT again or that I am town?? I don't understand that point. Where am I being inconsistent? I am actually so mad at you for this whole SHITTY push. You're preventing me from playing my game by digging me a hole and making me mad. You fail to EVEN explain how this ONE post makes me scum. Can you not see that your 'case' is shit? You've spent 2 pages shitting up the thread by asking other to look at it and nobody but mahr agreed with it (And mahr isn't even voting me). Isn't that a giant "I AM TUNNELING YET AGAIN" flag? You have a coach, Jesus, use him. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:04 Calix wrote: By this, I mean that I made a (poor) case against him in CM (last game) and although even I said that my case sucked, he still town-read me without doubt and defended me against HF when he said 'lol Calix you're attacking someone you think is an easy read'. This round I do pretty much the same thing (with making a case) and his response is to scum-read me for it because 'no way are you this bad with voting for someone you used to claim was an easy read' Vote NU. Underrated post. To expand on my ExO read, I didn't feel like he was trying to paint me as scum, weirdly enough. Even though his post where he votes for me is complete crap, I still don't get that impression. I really need to figure out where exactly I started town-reading him again. I'll have to reread tomorrow and see. | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:02 Calix wrote: NU has become a full-on scum-read for me. He's using completely different reasoning in his response to me between different games. That's not him 'changing his mind' - that is a major flip! I want to lynch you IRL. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:14 NeverUnlucky wrote: You're voting me based on 1 post for which I debunked everything. Yes, in CM I KNEW you were town. You were obvious town. You're suggesting that this is a TvT again or that I am town?? I don't understand that point. Where am I being inconsistent? I am actually so mad at you for this whole SHITTY push. You're preventing me from playing my game by digging me a hole and making me mad. You fail to EVEN explain how this ONE post makes me scum. Can you not see that your 'case' is shit? You've spent 2 pages shitting up the thread by asking other to look at it and nobody but mahr agreed with it (And mahr isn't even voting me). Isn't that a giant "I AM TUNNELING YET AGAIN" flag? You have a coach, Jesus, use him. ATE. | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:04 Calix wrote: By this, I mean that I made a (poor) case against him in CM (last game) and although even I said that my case sucked, he still town-read me without doubt and defended me against HF when he said 'lol Calix you're attacking someone you think is an easy read'. This round I do pretty much the same thing (with making a case) and his response is to scum-read me for it because 'no way are you this bad with voting for someone you used to claim was an easy read' Vote NU. WTF I DID NOT TOWN-READ YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR CASE IN CM. That is just straight out wrong. Plus GOOD JOB of not taking into consideration any sort of context when bringing up arguments, well done. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 03 2016 06:57 Foreman wrote: I started kicking around the idea of Calix town in the post you asked me about, actually. That's why I started talking to her. Yea I kinda liked that you asked her about her read on marg. Still it's an odd switch in thinking to go from "Calix is scum!" to "Calix is town, and this dude is buddying her, so is scum" Also, you kinda lost your chance to change my interpretation by telling me to read your filter. | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:06 Tictock wrote: Only other thing I can think of I care to comment on atm is that Calix's push on NU seems to mostly be based on him implying she said stuff she didn't. Doesn't sway me at all, unless I missed some better reasons. WEOOO WEOOO YOUR CASE IS BAD WEOO WEOO WAKE UP CALIX | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
0 response to a wall post. Nice, nice. What's ATE? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:04 NeverUnlucky wrote: I agree with TT on all points. Especially line 3. His VT claim was very odd, too, even more when you see him explaining it in 4 lines. It could have been him setting up a reason to be alive late in the game as scum, or he is a blue. In any case, I highly doubt that he is VT as VTs don't claim VT. Lol are you making it a point to put words in people's mouth or did you mix me up with someone? I don't think I said anything about Exo's shitty VT claim. Also VT's claim VT all the time. | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:21 Tictock wrote: Lol are you making it a point to put words in people's mouth or did you mix me up with someone? I don't think I said anything about Exo's shitty VT claim. Also VT's claim VT all the time. I said I agreed with the points you made PLUS I don't buy his VT claim. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:19 NeverUnlucky wrote: 0 response to a wall post. Nice, nice. What's ATE? Appeal to Emotion. Your push is contradicting your play and reasoning last game. End of discussion. Continue shitting up the thread with your temper tantrums instead of doing anything productive like I told you to do. I'm sure that'll help your case. Instead of whining, do anything else. Leave the thread if you're that much of a cry-baby. | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
But then I would have to explain myself, so I'll just keep pretending I scum-read her. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
Foreman (as explained, and I will stay on him and hope to get this wagon rolling) NU Why NU? I can already see people digging out the post where I waffled away from him. Goodwill is probably not a good town trait. But let me explain my thought: I initially agreed with Calix that he implied an opinion on Calix she didn't post before. This has been discussed enough. Nontheless I accepted his explanation about it, keeping the minor point against him noted. Him trying to create a positive atmosphere is something I value highly. Now Calix seemed to go completely overboard in tunnel mode, and I honestly cried on the inside about her points. But it were NU's answers who were supposed to destroy Calix points, which brought me back onto him. First he mentioned how he loves to powerwolf, winning 1v7 etc... Well... So basically his explanation for his initial misstep was devalued by that. Assuming he tries to balance his towngame against his mafiagame, not yet conclusive. But the doubt was increasing. Next was his vote on Calix. Seriously, he had absolutely no case here. Now you may tell me again, NU loves frustration voting. Okay. But I consider it a bad trait. NU, stop it or you will probably never get towncred with me. This isn't really advancing the game. If you consider Calix to spout nonsense, either make a proper case or ignore her and talk about what you have noticed with others. And last was this post: On November 03 2016 07:04 NeverUnlucky wrote: I agree with TT on all points. Especially line 3. His VT claim was very odd, too, even more when you see him explaining it in 4 lines. It could have been him setting up a reason to be alive late in the game as scum, or he is a blue. In any case, I highly doubt that he is VT as VTs don't claim VT. Really? A townie speculating about another player being blue or red? I mean, is this EVER smart? Mafia knows what color the guy is, and if he isn't red, you probably helped them in case they didn't notice. So by now, I can see myself supporting a NU wagon too. As said earlier, I still want Foreman gone first... But if this wagon does not play out and deadline was close, I would jump on a NU wagon too. | ||
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NeverUnlucky
Canada1622 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:23 Calix wrote: Appeal to Emotion. Your push is contradicting your play and reasoning last game. End of discussion. Continue shitting up the thread with your temper tantrums instead of doing anything productive like I told you to do. I'm sure that'll help your case. Instead of whining, do anything else. Leave the thread if you're that much of a cry-baby. So you're meta-reading me for not playing like last game. HIPOCRISY MUCH? I have 0 intent on contributing anything right now, and I don't think that'll change in the following days. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:14 Calix wrote: Underrated post. To expand on my ExO read, I didn't feel like he was trying to paint me as scum, weirdly enough. Even though his post where he votes for me is complete crap, I still don't get that impression. I really need to figure out where exactly I started town-reading him again. I'll have to reread tomorrow and see. I think I just have a hard time taking any Calix vs NU stuff very seriously kus you two are always at odds. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:26 NeverUnlucky wrote: So you're meta-reading me for not playing like last game. HIPOCRISY MUCH? I have 0 intent on contributing anything right now, and I don't think that'll change in the following days. Policy lynch. | ||
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