EPTWith your reads, how is 'retaliation' a town tell?
I don't relate to your DF read.
How is an over-aggressive tone scum-indicative? What examples do you have?
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With your reads, how is 'retaliation' a town tell? I don't relate to your DF read. How is an over-aggressive tone scum-indicative? What examples do you have? | ||
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On November 05 2016 01:49 Skynx wrote: ok. Retaliation is a town tell because he's getting attacked non-stop for bad reasons. Check vivax and me from Dota mafia, which I know you have been following which is completely the opposite. I dunno who you're accounting to with the over-aggressive tone, Foreman? I'm not scum reading him, I got no material i specified I didn't read him much. Yes I have been following it. I still don't follow your point though. If you think ExO is town then what are your thoughts on how the trains have formed? In terms of your cases, I'm really not convinced by your NU case and I didn't find anything damning when I filtered TT earlier unless I go full tinfoil and I didn't like DF's case. Yeah, Foreman. If something is 'over-aggressive' then does that not imply that it's scummy? | ||
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On November 05 2016 01:56 Skynx wrote: I'll build up on both TT and NU cases in the night to convince more people i guess. I feel like Exo lynch will only strengthen my point. I find it quite odd that you're saying that you have this town-lean on ExO (one of your few town-reads/ leans/ whatever) yet you're not really trying to oppose his lynch or convince us how NU/ TT are mafia. (your NU case still makes zero sense, not a single bit) You just don't seem to care that much at all. | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:02 NeverUnlucky wrote: Skynx's play this game reminds me of this quote from disformation on how to play as mafia: "just posts tons of words. dump a wot in thread now and then, nobody will read them and think you are town for the effort. " lmao What is a 'wot'? | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:05 ExO_ wrote: Perhaps you should consider that it's very difficult to make accurate reads right now when everyone is scum reading me and on my wagon. It's hard for me to not be OMGUS when everyone is voting for me, is it not? That said, I think both you and TT are pushing me here past what makes sense. Especially the way TT came back into the thread last night and ignored the progression of my posts to make a point. He strung a bunch of posts together that were very far apart to make me look horrible. either way I think at least one of you two should know better. Which makes me think at least one of you is scum. This isn't OMGUS, this is my honest thoughts. How other people scum-read/ vote you doesn't negatively impact your reads. In fact, it means you're in the unique position of not being distracted by how scummy you look. I for one would like to hear more detail about your TT/ Rels theory or at least give some thoughts on darthfoley/ Foreman/ mahrgell. (you haven't talked much about them and if you're town then having that 'confirmed town' spec would be really helpful) | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:16 NeverUnlucky wrote: I trolled this game, eh? "Discredit others": I've only discredited Calix. lol The fact that he conflated "discrediting Calix" with "others" should be telling you that you discredit me way too much. Perhaps consider not doing that so much. | ||
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It's quite simple really - if NU/ TT are town then the town explanation for their posts around ExO would be that they scum-read ExO and were wrong. It's foolish to make "if X is town then Y is mafia" associations. | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:23 Tictock wrote: Fair warning, I'm prob gunna call TMI on this if Exo ends up flipping town. While I find Skynx's behaviour around ExO to be strange, I feel like you are going for the obvious options with your reads so far at the expense of other options. AKA I think I'm making acquaintance with Tunneltock. | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote: Blatant ridiculing of pushes cuz they are weak as fuck. He cannot instantly push them back as scum cuz he already has the information and he doesn't know yet how those people gona turn out later on so he cannot aford to take heat on himself early on. But he already had a lot of heat on him early on and his response was to disappear before retracting the read that led to such suspicion in the first place...? | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:29 NeverUnlucky wrote: I genuinely think this is a very town response... ... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read. CFD Skynx imo. I actually might do this. | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote: dont calix. skynx is town, trust him. you and him are the most town Wait, I thought you said he had to be looked into because of his short filter? What changed? | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:36 Calix wrote: TT, your thoughts on Skynx' approach to ExO then...? I want an answer BEFORE the flip, thanks. | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:42 NeverUnlucky wrote: I was saying that what you are doing is distancing yourself from the lynch. I have cold feet about this ExO lynch. What are everyone's strongest scum-reads and why? Bad post. It's not unreasonable to think that someone might interpret "having cold feet" as "distancing from a potential ML" Random question is also terrible and pointless. | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:45 ExO_ wrote: Okay I'm back home I'm going to try to type things out as fast as I can. CALIX listen to me. Skynx is town. There is no way he comes in and town reads me at EoD as scum. It's too risky. You two need to lead the town here While I can conclude that the white-knighting accusations would draw attention to him because he is black-sheeping, surely that can be dismissed with WIFOM, no? If you are town then it's similar to what he did last game with Lunatic. Do you have any other reasons to town-read him? | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote: Calix/Skynx any questions you have please ask me, before I flip as town please ask now. I will try my best to answer quickly. I'm 100% sure you two are town and the people like NU trying to discredit Skynx are almost certainly going to be scum Yeah, can you please summarise/ conclude your reads in one post? I think that would help people see what your reads were. You can even just cobble your previous posts into one since you have 10 minutes left. | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:50 Calix wrote: Yeah, can you please summarise/ conclude your reads in one post? I think that would help people see what your reads were. You can even just cobble your previous posts into one since you have 10 minutes left. In case ExO missed this. | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:53 ExO_ wrote: This is something I'm not very good at. a lot of my reads I base on what I think, and researching specific examples is hard. I think out of TT/Rels/NU there is at least 1 scum. Maybe 2. TT or rels should have known better than to let this lynch go down like it did, and instead both pushed it hard. I would look at them heavily. NU's game has just been really bad all around, hard to say if its because he's bad or because he's scum though. I didn't like the way mahgrell played, and the way he's afk now but I think he's something to look at after the top 3. DF is townier than mahgrell. Foreman is angry town You don't have to cite examples, just as long as you have some reasoning that we can relate to. One more question. What makes DF more town than mahrgell and why don't you like mahrgell? | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:54 ExO_ wrote: If there is one thing you do please listen to me: You need to figure out the scum out of Rels/TT/NU They are going to try to push suspicion on to people like skynx here. Do not let them. I'm speaking to all of you town, figure out which one of them is scum and lynch them These kinds of posts are making me think ExO is town. Fuck. I'll just say that if you are town then I'll keep this in mind. | ||
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But damn, that's really disappointing. | ||
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