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On December 02 2016 17:00 Holyflare wrote: You mean.... Like darthfoley? :o :o :o :o but you know there are two mafia right? Say im with darthfoley do you really think im going to let him fall for your obvious bait? its not a very good argument | ||
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Just read through, at least my rant about time being wasted was unwarranted it seems. (or did it achieve its purpose as wakeupcall?^^) I guess I will just answer going through, but ignore everything regarding SL and its implications for now... This certainly deserves an extra post. | ||
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Holyflare
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3. Shapelog 8. Checkm8 This is my real list: Town Emperor Darthfoley Town looking but wouldn't be surprised if they're mafia Ma gurl Ticktock (i have no idea how you're here when i want to lynch you normally every game. If you're mafia I'll have a good metric of lynching you when I think you're town to follow) LightningStrike (purely for pushing correct looking stuff but tinfoil) Null Rels (lots of reasons to town read him, lots of reasons to mafia read him) Onegu (hesitation because of hard town read on me day 1, not much content, also absent now) Sicklucker (dunno he just says words but town reads me and town reads shapelog??? Too weird) Mafia Shapelog (His cop thing looked really mafia forced, his return is crap, no reads, mire concerned with insulting my previous game than posting read, angry at weird times, looking at things the wrong way and in ways I've never seen a town person look) Checkb8 (?????) | ||
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What if df rbd me and then used that as an excuse for not killing me? Many possibilities actually. | ||
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On December 02 2016 10:14 Tictock wrote: While I agree with the general sentiment of your rant (I don't get the reverence people have for HF either) what did you make of my reasons to TR him? Not just the stuff about EoD either, the stuff I mentioned as townpoints in my list post. Uhm, I actually considered those but in the end it felt like were are moving into WIFOM territory too much here. Like I have again and again looked into the possibility of NU "dying for the team". I really wanted to believe this is true. And I completely and utterly failed over and over to find it. Koshi is townconfirmed, I stand with my opinion on Emp, if it was for SL then it was awfully executed (and more SL once im done with the regular stuff here..) Well, I know my own alignment. So at this point, and imho this fits the way NU played the entire day, NU was completely and utterly shellshocked. This wasn't the great sacrifice play of the year. This was NU, who back of several warnings to change his toxic meta suddenly rolled scum for the first time and had no fucking clue what to do. + Show Spoiler + not relevant to my reads, but at this point I want to say props to NU: Yes, the play deserves a lot of flak most likely. But it would have been the easiest for him to go with "One more game" and just do what he always did. This play would have made for very easy scum play. And basically it was this expectation I had from scumNU and why I really couldn't believe he was scum for a very long time. But here he imho showed character and I value that very highly! Like I really tried to give him outs. All he had to do was drop some serious reads to convince me. He knows I'm a sucker for this. And without me he would have been at 3. Emp was around, and I felt he wasn't locked either. Koshi was fairly determined, and SL was completely gone, but still. But as others also concluded... He did absolutely nothing to get out of this shit. He rolled over and died. And this basically started when he went all "Koshi case so gud, gg" into repeat x100 "I'm town" So in the way I currently see the game, he did not die EoD1. He died way earlier. And this imho removes this argument of "HF would try to save his framer at EoD". At the same time, I feel like if there is an active scum, he would certainly push the "NU died for a greater cause, lets find it" narrative. So... not sure you had anything other going for HF, if so, please tell me what it is, but this isn't an argument for my view how the game went. | ||
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On December 02 2016 10:22 Tictock wrote: First off, thanks for following your WoT posts with a one liner kus I don't want to quote a WoT on my phone. Second what's the problem with throwing down a vote right away? If Shape comes back and is super town you move the vote, otherwise just let it ride. We should use the time waiting for Shape to respond discussing who the last scum might be though. Don't want to waste the day age voting. My issue was with the attitude in the thread. All I saw when I looked into it were 3 people starting the day with "lets party, vote shlog, ggbye" (and a bunch of absolutely nonsensical HF posts...) Maybe it was also me being pissed about the general TL player attitude as pointed out in my HF post. But well... Let's take it for what is and call it a wakeup call. If it worked, great. If activity would have risen without it... Still not regretting it. | ||
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On December 02 2016 13:05 Tictock wrote: Nah it's totes possible man. Send the kill in via phone or w/e but don't have the energy to actually make posts. Shape even posted RIGHT after start of day, so even if CM8 is scum and has given up on the game then at least shape could have posted the kill. Maybe it's not Shape/CM8, but this is not a good reason why it's not them. You are assuming a little too much. Uhm, I actually had to read the rules aafter EoN because I was sure they would both be modkilled for not posting. My line of thought was, that it requires tremendous "balls" (but honestly I dont see it as something positive here) to risk getting modkilled for lack of activity. Both were warned, both didn't post the entire night. If they really played the "surely btdt wont dare to modkill us, and lets submit a NK while not posting" card, I will have serious respect issues, but at least to me this is not a viable play. But I don't really want to discuss modactions/kills, so let's drop this conversation. | ||
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I'm not immune to being lynched, I've been lynched day 1 before easily. It happens. But to say that people treat me as some immune person and it annoys you when I'm playing like shit is wrong. They do that because I often step up my game as it goes on or I get the motivation to solve it. I also would argue I'm not playing like shit in the slightest when you have agreed with me at EVERY point in my game. If you didn't write so much I would without a doubt call you mafia. You've: Flat out agreed with my nu assessment and we shared that read. You pretty much copied and pasted my koshi read. You've sheeped my rels read and given the same points for town reading rels after I have. You share the same scum reads I do. At what point do you admit I'm solidly town? | ||
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On December 02 2016 13:47 Shapelog wrote: I am going to say it very clearly, and this goes for everyone. If your going to just ignore half of what I say in my posts. Then just tell me so I can focus on catching scum and not defending myself. There is nothing more I hate as town then when I try to actually be helpful and people just roll their eyes at me. It's been bothering me for a while. True, I sometimes don't "act" the ways to get that all the time. But I do expect when I do to be taken seriously and analzyed correctly. I'm sorry I had to prioritize my real life shit over this game. But life is life. This isn't. So if you going to as I said. Not read my posts seriosly, or with such a bias that you don' fully analzye what I have to say. Just tell me. I keep shut till the last hour and start posting my reads, scum list, and anything else worth sharing. For which u will have to look at without bias, without ingnoring me, because I would of had just flipped town. I will just go ahead and say: Please do you reads stuff. I read your later defense, I can follow some thoughts, I think a lot is WIFOM, but in the end, I certainly prefer the reads stuff and would prefer to judge you by that. And I guess I will ask some questions about your own actions later. | ||
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On December 02 2016 15:58 Holyflare wrote: Holy shit you spout so much nonsense. Oh woe is me, mafia must have an active player so it can't be Shapelog and cm8 even though shapelog LITERALLY POSTED AFTER THE DEADLINE AND LEFT AGAIN. I'm sorry if you don't like my play this game, that's your own fault though. I've tunneled 2-3 people and that's about 2-3 people more than: Shapelog Sicklucker Cm8 Onegu So why do you have such a big problem with exclusively my play? I've pushed rels logically and you sheeped literally all the points. I find it hard to believe you couldn't see the town intentions in my post when you literally agreed with 80% of them. I'm not going to change, Shapelog is still mafia and likely with cm8 or Onegu (simply because he hard defended me). Vote me if you want but it's a waste. You are again missing my point or deflecting it intentionally. My point is not, that you are the guy with the least content. My point is, that you massively cherry pick your content to put yourself in a corner where you can never be attacked for. I completely understand that this is very useful longterm for a player who has tons of games here and wants to play more. It makes town more relaxing and scum play easier. Like I even voiced my own concerns after last game, that with the style I play I will have huge issues to actually get a viable meta which does not get me killed. But I honestly don't care about your thoughts about your longterm meta. I care about this game. And I want you out of this corner. And if you really insist to stay there, you are scum to me. And this is really the main difference between you and those inactives(or formerly inactives). They are also completely lacking content. They are also sitting in a dark corner which could easily hide scum. But they did not over and over publicly refused and celebrated the fact that they won't leave it. They just stayed there by doing nothing. (I acknowledge that if they are reading the thread actively, laugh at me and simply don't post, they are doing the same as you... But I for now believe in them being really afk and at worst it is a coinflip, while your case is clear) | ||
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On December 02 2016 16:14 Holyflare wrote: Also, df is 100% town. There's no way I basically claim blue like 6 times and he doesn't kill me over koshi. Uhm... your blue claims were fucking awful. Like I even mentioned it before EoN that you are protection baiting. And if you really got protection (which automatically means that you aren't blue, with Koshi flipping cop) this would be a damn sad affair. And instead of telling the world how retarded it was to not protect Koshi, you should probably point at yourself. | ||
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I only focus on things that pop out to me as scummy. I see things that are towny and write one or two lines about it and stick the person in a town pile because why should I waste my time on that. I see something that is scummy and I'll tunnel the person until they look better or lynch them. Rinse and repeat. So while I haven't had a whole lot of time to play I think it's pathetic for you to whine so adamantly about this when I've actually done quite a bit and reading the above you've sheeped a lot of what I have said. | ||
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