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Koshi
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That shape was not mafia for how he claimed cop. I liked how sl brought that to the thread. It had impact. It was new. And it removed all my doubt on Shape. Also not enough to townread him. But it's ok for now. sl is being absolute shit till he starts actual playing last games. It's great for mafia teams. Not so for townies as he stays a ?. Rarely gets close to lynched though. | ||
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On November 30 2016 07:42 Rels wrote: No apart from his big post which was townie. Exactly. That removed him from my scumlist. But his play is really not up to date. Also. Dat filter. He feels restricted in his posting. | ||
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On November 30 2016 07:41 NeverUnlucky wrote: Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well. Why is LS obvious town to you? Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before. And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good. | ||
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On November 30 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote: Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before. And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good. No I am being incorrect. His play is just good. The meta is only a part. The feels are just townfeels I would have with everybody that plays like he does. Saying there is mafia between 2 people because it feels like there is, is bold and can come from a townie. Yes, it could be mafia trying to force town to pick a mafia between the 2 or so but that is not how I read that. It's all good. He is not mafia. | ||
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On November 30 2016 07:47 Rels wrote: This was a super shit point and Shape absolutely can fakeclaim cop as any alignment. Everybody can do anything. But I don't know. Doesn't feel like scum would do it there for shit and giggles. anyway, at that time, after he made that comment, I thought sl came out to play. He didn't. bad sl. | ||
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4. Onegu 11. sicklucker 12. Tictock 13. NeverUnlucky I think I am here atm. Finding the right one is going to be a pain in the ass. | ||
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On November 30 2016 07:51 Rels wrote: Let's kill HF. ##Vote Holyflare I am not against that. ##unvote ##Vote Holyflare | ||
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And I liked maybe some of his posts now that I reread them. I can see a townie asking those questions. | ||
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On November 30 2016 07:58 Rels wrote: Disagree. His "My early game is town I dare you to meta me" is exactly that. I guess.. but my point is that is almost too easy to scumread him. And that he doesn't seem to create a scenario where he can wiggle out of some votes. Like the "case" I made about his generic reads and distancing... That was pretty bad if you reread a bit as mafia. | ||
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On November 30 2016 08:16 NeverUnlucky wrote: Disconnected from the thread, no. Disconnected from your 1 on 1 with Rels, yes. There is no comment I can make or think of making in relation to your conversation and would much rather dive filters and understand others. Isn't the first time bro. At the start of the game as well. Town!NU would just post more (funny) shizzle and put himself in the conversations way more. Town!NU would dominate the conversation because he talks what comes to him and then others join in with him. Now you are always outside the conversations for some reason. If somebody can pinpoint me to a game in which you play like this, show me, otherwise this is a clear different meta than I am used to from you. | ||
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On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote: He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence. It's all good. HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea. | ||
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On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote: This post is not natural to me. 1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it. 2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it. Thoughts? I agree. It is another disconnect play by NU. So it is true that NU was in the thread while the quotes happened and only a lot later NU mentions them together? Because I didn't check that. I also didn't like how he presented the quotes. I said something about that already. | ||
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On November 30 2016 16:08 emperorchampion wrote: I'm not maf, you're probably not either. Not understanding the high green reads on darth atm, so we agree on that. I can understand them. But NU and Rels both place him too high. It's ok atm still. Doesn't matter. He isn't the d1 lynch. | ||
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On November 30 2016 17:28 mahrgell wrote: Okay, I'm back! Just skimmed over everything. Anyone has something he wants to point me at? Otherwise I will probably go with another list post and chiming in my opinion on the current cases. Don't do a listpost again. Just try to find something interesting. Or talk about something that you think is possible and new information. Maybe a post that comes more likely from town than mafia? Or the other way around even! | ||
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Mafia to town 13. NeverUnlucky 2. Holyflare 4. Onegu 12. Tictock 11. sicklucker 3. Shapelog 6. darthfoley 8. Checkm8 9. mahrgell 10. emperorchampion 1. Rels 5. LightningStrike This list is created knowing that I really think NU is off his game. I know out of experience how hard it is to play mafia when you have a super conversational, super "post-literally-everything-what-pops-in-your-brain" type of town playstyle. A few things that pop out on NU: 1) Early game, the first pages, he was here but wasn't posting every other post, which already was odd to me. 2) Early game, a bit later, I made a comment I was sure he would be able to instant reply to if he was carefree town. But he didn't at all. Weird. (The same thing happened many times already, sometimes delayed though, if you poke a bear, the bear answers instantly, not after 50 minutes.) (I think he is mafia and knows he can't play making a post every other second so he tries to post every 10-30 minutes instead.) 3) Very small content (1-2 lines max) posts on LS, EC and TT early game. But with a very empty feeling. Only enforces the idea that he is watching the thread, but then only posts every 10-20 minutes just because he is mafia, and it isn't doing him favors. 4) He has an incredible hard time absorbing information. I can tell him a million times LS is not mafia, but he can't absorb it, and he also refuses to discuss it. Instead he comes with another story of "LS play is weirdish here" 5) Have you seen 4-5 quick posts back and forth from him with anybody? I have seen him do 40-50 with Calix before. 6) Disconnected with the thread. I already explained this. town!NU talks in the thread and people join him and his topic for conversation. In this game NU has issues joining conversations. Reason is most likely that he can't play "post-literally-everything-what-pops-in-your-brain" as mafia. Hmm. Yeah that will do for now. There is more ofc. Like the quotes he posted without information. It really felt like he didn't know what to do with it and was posting them so somebody else would reply and then he would reply reactively and maybe create something that looks like being involved. I just expect town!NU to have an idea in his head why these 2 quotes are not cool. Why they make somebody mafia. And entire theory in his head from looking at those 2 quotes for 1 second. Instead he has nothing. And when I challenge these quotes and say they are not a real contradiction and they can come from a town in a different situation. HE DOES NOT REPLY TO THAT. Instead he replies to another question I asked him in another post. The easier answer. oh well. I can keep going about this guy. ##unvote ##vote NU If NU is not mafia. He flips green. I think my list looks like this atm: 2. Holyflare 3. Shapelog 11. sicklucker 4. Onegu 12. Tictock 10. emperorchampion Nothing much changes but I have to admit I have a lot riding on the fact 3-4 people (Shape, EC, mahrgell and maybe ch8) somewhere after 10 hours in the thread all said the same thing about NU without it really being connected to each other. It felt like it were all townies seeing the same thing but not being to really nail it, also not bussing or trying to discredit a townie as mafia. But if NU is town, maybe I need to revisit it anyway. Shape falling off is very meh, that guy posts carefree as mafia or town, doesn't matter, but I feel as town he can has eventually a ton of really townie moments, while as mafia he just has a few townie moments. Rereading now after doing some work. | ||
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