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On November 29 2016 23:51 mahrgell wrote:
so the update:
CM8: yeah, I agree here, his post looked townish from a newb.
But can you explain your ToS background a bit more though? Like how much you played that? IRL or online? I'm a bit reluctant on all the "he is a newb" reads, just because of my own last game ^.^
I played that for like 300+ games or w/e...but ToS is basically a more concrete information game, relying on dead roles, and other roles' information more than something with the conversations like real mafia, so yeah. ToS is online 
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On November 30 2016 01:37 Shapelog wrote:Eh, Check8 is newbie carding. We get it, your new. Please stop saying "im new" and stuff like that. Have a question for you Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something. Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 21:01 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 18:21 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 18:20 Holyflare wrote:
Stop playing on a terrible phone? Never had a problem with gifs on an ancient phone even. so combative. Townies need to be nice and friendly to each other. I dunno, this is just a gut feel but this seems scummy to me. Just a gut feel tho. Can you explain what tone you associate with town? Before, you were sus. about LS because your TOS experience is that the nice people are more likely scum. Yet, I feel like you are sus. in the second quote of HF's Tone which to say the lease. Isn't that inviting.
Yeah I won't draw the newbie card anymore. And it was Koshi I was wary of, not LS.
I feel like the aggressive tone is more town right now. More friendly tones are more indicative of scum. But I'll be reading more into it from now on rather than simply focusing on the tone.
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On November 30 2016 03:38 emperorchampion wrote:
@Koshi:
1. Rels
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock
Maybe only 1 of sl and c8? Waiting for c8 since I have something I'm curious about.
pls do ask
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Rels - Feels a lot like last game joining a bit late but just dropping thoughts as he has them. His "Ok NVM" posts support that he is just saying what he thinks as he thinks it, not trying to construct stuff. Very likely town.
Holyflare - I don't agree with much of what HF said about gell, but it feels in line with stuff he's pushed before. To restate: I disagree with his reasoning to scumread mahrgell but it's not unlike pushes I've seen from town!HF before. There are a couple posts I feel could fall into DMA + Show Spoiler +Dick Move Analysis, basically just the trend that mafia aren't usually outright mean to other players
Shapelog - I'm suprised how straightforward Shape is being this game honestly. Sure he threw out the cop WIFOM right off but that was pretty much the only time he hasn't been fairly serious this game. I'd be more worried about it if I didn't feel like I could see where he is coming from generaly and liked a few of the points he's been making. The one thing that stood out as strange to me was his NU read in #403
+ Show Spoiler +Shape started off saying he didn't find much to sway him either way yet here was his conclusion: Overall he has been overstressing things more than they should, which is more AI of a scum player than a town player. But, NU tone as town in previous games is like that. And while he did say he was trying to change his meta, tone and writing style is harder to change than just what you post. He's null/light scum read, but once he posts more content posts (along with everyone else), I will relook.
Onegu - Flipping my read from earlier. I gave Onegu some credit for doing some stuff right off and seeming like he was involved. Skimming his filter now I find basically nothing with real content in it. Seems like he burnt up a bunch of energy right at the start posting a bunch but now that there is stuff to actually discuss has dropped off. Would be someone to re-evaluate closer to EoD is I have time.
LightningStrike - Kinda a lazy read but LS just feels tonally on point to me and has been pretty involved. I'd imagine him having a harder time being this comfortable rolling scum after such a long absence from playing.
darthfoley - Pretty meh over his filter. I can kinda see where he is coming from at times, but I dislike how he dropped Shape from a townread to null just kus Rels asked him about it. I was going to call his vote on HF opportunistic, but he did mention not liking HF in an earlier post. I think I just need to see more from Darth to get a better read, I do recall him being a bit like this last game as well.
Koshi - Like I said before I see no reason for him to take a step back from his scumread on me like he did if he were mafia. I also imagine he'd be way more burnt out rolling scum for the 5th game in a row. Sure he'd play to win still, but what I've seen is a fair bit above what mafia would need to be doing at this point in the game.
Checkm8 - Not much to go on, and yea as others have mentioned he's overplayed the newb card. His one post of content felt legit. Idk, gut says town.
mahrgell - Feels a lot like what I recall from last game and pretty tonally on point as well. I also liked his reactions to HF's pressure (possibly another DMA) and while I get his big reads post feeling a bit lackluster it also reads to me like his legit thoughts at the time. Fairly strong townlean here.
emperorchampion - I honestly have no clue where Emp's head is at this game. Starts off some pressure on NU then does a 180 with no explanation and is now back to scumreading him. This post in particular stands out to me.
On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.
This is where he 180's on NU, throws shade on LS for suggesting there is mafia between himself and NU (which is odd since he had also thought NU was sus a few posts before), doesn't like me, and the stuff about gell is almost litterally word vomit. Feels like a scatter shot post flinging shit and seeing what might stick.
I really did try to find something redeeming in his filter that might make Emp town, but I came up with nothin.
sicklucker - pretty dam null, nothing stood out to me either way
NeverUnlucky - Reading through the game I kinda felt like NU is a lot more held back than I have ever seen him. I liked his point in #285 in response to Koshi. Other than that though I'm really not following his reads, and especially his pushes. Kinda a shame NU was last on the list, I feel like I need to be more awake to make a better read here. Leaving him as a scum read kus something feels off about him in my gut.
##Vote: emperorchampion
Seems like the best option to me. I have an odd feeling that the Emp vs NU stuff so far has actually been Mafia on Mafia. NU has actually said very little about Emp despite being one of his scumreads and Emp's read on NU has been a bit all over the place. Their interactions are also pretty tame for two people scum reading one another as well. I might be hitting the tinfoil a bit here though.
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I'd like to say I'll at least be able to keep up with reading the game, but I'm not sure what my day is going to look like tomorrow. I should at least be able to check in a couple of times before deadline, but can't promise much.
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@TT you seriously think both NU and I could be scum?
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Ok caught up. With recent posts I now think Koshi is more likely town than mafia. Rels might also be town. They're pushing town forward with each discussion they make.
Scum circle for me is still NU, while I'm now scum reading Onegu. The latter seemed like he was commenting a lot early on and then suddenly went down a cliff. Also to note that nothing he said was actually with that much content, and that he's only poking some chosen people every once in a while. The friendly tone thing also applies to him.
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Also, forgive me for relating again to ToS, but with most games I perform better as there are fewer people as I get confused as to which is which. I'll try to improve my performance as the game goes on.
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On November 30 2016 15:14 Checkm8 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 03:38 emperorchampion wrote:
@Koshi:
1. Rels
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock
Maybe only 1 of sl and c8? Waiting for c8 since I have something I'm curious about. pls do ask
tbh I forgot since it was so long ago...
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ya i dont know why you morons want to lynch hf day 1. I would sheep him way before I would lynch him. I agree with alot of his points
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On November 30 2016 15:35 emperorchampion wrote:
@TT you seriously think both NU and I could be scum?
To follow up:
1) Your case seems pretty weak if you are using my scum read on NU as a major piece of evidence, since you are scum reading him as well.
2) If your reads are as you say they are, I should be one of your top towns.
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I like Ticktock's list post at first glance tbh. As of now I think either sicklucker, HF, or emperor to be reasonable D1 lynches.
I'll also have to take a look back at Onegu's filter. Been a bit lazy about it
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i'm getting actually annoyed with sicklucker's posting. so much agreement, so few original points l0l
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On November 30 2016 14:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I remain pretty unconvinced by NU's last post.
##vote: NeverUnlucky
ya i can get behind this. his reasons for scum reading me seem super made up after I called him out for scum reading people for no reason
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On November 30 2016 15:53 darthfoley wrote:
i'm getting actually annoyed with sicklucker's posting. so much agreement, so few original points l0l
be honest are you reading my posts?
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pretty sure I cant be scum since everyone whos likely scum thinks im scum.
Darthfoley
mahgr
never
maybe emp
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On November 30 2016 16:02 sicklucker wrote:
pretty sure I cant be scum since everyone whos likely scum thinks im scum.
Darthfoley
mahgr
never
maybe emp
I'm not maf, you're probably not either.
Not understanding the high green reads on darth atm, so we agree on that.
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@ darth: Say that sl is off the table, where are you at? HF maybe Onegu?
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On November 30 2016 16:14 emperorchampion wrote:
@ darth: Say that sl is off the table, where are you at? HF maybe Onegu?
On November 30 2016 15:52 darthfoley wrote:
I like Ticktock's list post at first glance tbh. As of now I think either sicklucker, HF, or emperor to be reasonable D1 lynches.
I'll also have to take a look back at Onegu's filter. Been a bit lazy about it
... like four posts above; unfortunately you're in that crowd. will look at onegu in the morning
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