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On December 11 2016 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
No, if someone is mafia it's df for posting his bs defence 2 mins till deadline while "thinking" emp is mafia amd his response to mahr's slip. And him being angry at me while calling me mafia. None of it makes sense tbh.
no ifs mate, there's definitely a mafia in the game!
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Cool things. Hope you change your mind so I get a free win then.
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Hmm... so everyone slinging shit and doing funny WIFOM...
I guess we talk tomorrow then... maybe there is more reason in the game then...
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Aren't you supposed to be afk?
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On December 11 2016 08:35 mahrgell wrote:
Hmm... so everyone slinging shit and doing funny WIFOM...
I guess we talk tomorrow then... maybe there is more reason in the game then...
You made a reasonable post that I agreed with and hf just said that it was terrible but you should vote for him. Don't know how you're supposed to converse if everything is WIFOM and OMGUS
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On December 11 2016 07:41 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 07:08 mahrgell wrote:
But in any case...
Now that we reached the final day, is there a reason to hold back, Onegu? Or are you ready to drop the read bombs finally?
You probably wont convince me that I'm scum... but between HF and DF... Who is it?
Also do you agree with my judgement on SL? Or would he completely able to do this LEROY style even when he does not trust his mates? My feeling with the selfcentered vets on TL is, that they always want to grab the game for themselves... Never follow, always lead, everything being centered around them... I simply can't imagine a SL getting GF(insanely powerful in this setup) and then pull this shit without someone else they respect to carry through...
And respect the typical TLvet seems to only have for other TLvets... Except the Cop was dead when he went for he claim. His role was useless when he fakeclaimed. So that point doesnt matter. And yes he wants to make big plays and it doenst have to be someone he respects just someone he thinks can win. That could be you or HF maybe dearth... He 100% would never do it if I was the last scum I can tell you that for certain and that is what should clear me.
I was talking about his pre EoN1 game, where he just parked his vote, rolled dice on his reads and shitposted...
I already said that post EoN1 his play makes perfect sense with any player ho is still alive as mate... (and you saying otherwise about yourself won't account for much here  )
But I was talking purely about D1/N1
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On December 11 2016 08:37 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 08:35 mahrgell wrote:
Hmm... so everyone slinging shit and doing funny WIFOM...
I guess we talk tomorrow then... maybe there is more reason in the game then... You made a reasonable post that I agreed with and hf just said that it was terrible but you should vote for him. Don't know how you're supposed to converse if everything is WIFOM and OMGUS
Didn't blame anyone. It was just a general feeling of the thread. And yes, HF is kinda in the centre of it, and I don't think any of his D5 posts tell anything about his alignment at all. So my read here stays the same.
Question is just if someone "overtakes" him again.
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Btw Onegu, as you are so in love with my slip... Whats your judgement of DF's scumslip EoD4 ?
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Quote. Mods havent updated the OP for me to just go to the n4 and look back.
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No that doesnt bother me as much because he was responding to why he cant be mafia. Doesnt really matter if he thinks EC is scum or not. He is responding to why he isnt scum. This post could be made post game even saying here are the points I have that I was town.
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The more interesting post on that page is this.
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/515094-a-mini-with-funny-gifs?page=141#2804
HF says both you and DF made SL claim and it could have been pre arranged. But when I bring it up just now it being pre arranged is not likely and he doesnt talk about DF making SL claim also. Because that arguement could be used for both of you. You both went after SL. So why today leave out DF and go after DF. But if DF was pre arranged why couldnt yours Mahr be?
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Does this make sense or do I need to clearify?
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On December 11 2016 09:42 mahrgell wrote:http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26225656This defense, 3 minutes before deadline with a sealed lynch on Emp who DF was certain to be last scum (so game should have ended) Given that this triggered most of the mess N4 had become... I seriously wonder if you read the game.
Where did you get the opinion that I was certain he was mafia? That's not true.
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On December 11 2016 10:04 Onegu wrote:The more interesting post on that page is this. http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/515094-a-mini-with-funny-gifs?page=141#2804HF says both you and DF made SL claim and it could have been pre arranged. But when I bring it up just now it being pre arranged is not likely and he doesnt talk about DF making SL claim also. Because that arguement could be used for both of you. You both went after SL. So why today leave out DF and go after DF. But if DF was pre arranged why couldnt yours Mahr be?
Because if you read the page it's more mahr that he quotes and uses caps lock on. I also don't even know if I want to call DF mafia. He's just the most likely since:
Mahr has done stuff all game.
You have done not much but sl posted shit tonnes of stuff about you being town and meh.
Df had weird reaction to mahr slip and did that deadline thing and so on and so forth and is childishly attacking me over little irrelevant things.
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On December 11 2016 10:04 Onegu wrote:The more interesting post on that page is this. http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/515094-a-mini-with-funny-gifs?page=141#2804HF says both you and DF made SL claim and it could have been pre arranged. But when I bring it up just now it being pre arranged is not likely and he doesnt talk about DF making SL claim also. Because that arguement could be used for both of you. You both went after SL. So why today leave out DF and go after DF. But if DF was pre arranged why couldnt yours Mahr be?
It makes sense what you are saying... But in general you could notice that HF when being enraged about my case or whatever after EoN basically switched his scum suspect based on who he was talking to...
Also with regards to DF he seems to be very flippy since midst of D4... between clearing him of doubt for menioned reasons back into going full battle mode "you are scum"
In the end I have to say, if he is town and was indeed in full rage mode... I don't give too much about his targets and reasoning...
If he was scum, well... again his stuff is mostly WIFOM and should not be relevant...
So I'm waiting for him to come back calmly again but won't draw any conclusions from his early D5 posts. Which still leaves me with this completely weird N4 from him though.
He should know perfectly well why people keep back information at this stage. He knew perfectly well that scum could indeed keep TT alive. Why was he suddenly interested in TT's opinion? (Really... you have to read the progression between HF and TT to understand how this is strange). Why push me to get my thoughts out asap, when there is still more than enough time uring the day to figure out things?
It gave me really strong vibes of HF panicking, because for really the first time the game seemed to turn on him. And him trying to figure out who to nightkill.
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On December 11 2016 12:10 darthfoley wrote:Where did you get the opinion that I was certain he was mafia? That's not true.
Okay, you later said "pretty confident". Probably slightly too strong wording from me here. It still struck me as odd, especially as your defense towards HF asking you out on it didn't mention the "for postgame" idea from Onegu, which would actually make sense to me... But this wasn't your thinking.
And I admit that I'm with HF here... it looks completely weird you were "pretty certain" about the game to end, emphasized several times this game how you think from phase to phase and not try to look too far ahead and have generally been rather reactive and "lazy" (no offense, dont jump me plz) and suddenly you post a defense, where you are "pretty certain" it is not necessary at all.
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I wanted tt because he was the only confirmed town and hopefully might say something useful about what I was talking about. Yeh the likelihood of him just coming back and attacking me more was extremely high but it's the only hope I had of someone making sense.
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And I don't perfectly know why people keep back information. I think it's absolutely the worst play to ever hide information. At night especially, you have to know you're a ? To people and even if you die you leave behind a confirmed town tt. Even then your scum read at rhe time, I presume me, was saying he couldn't be around. So that was your last opportunity to ask me those questions.
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@HF
Well... let's say I have a hard time of merging your latest answers with the image you presented in this game 
But if you are serious we can discuss this in post game...
Anyway, if you are back in serious mode... DF it is for you?
@DF
How is your "let's investigate Onegu vs HF" going? I have to say, i somehow lack initiative from you... and this for quite some time now... We are down to 4... Sitting back and waiting for other to stir up shit is not really valid anymore...
@Onegu
Will your promised investigations be finished at a similar good timing as your TT case day3?
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