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[T] Dota 2 Mafia
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/in I will get a bloody nose from this game as I will be overwhelmed with posts and roles and it's my first themed game ever and I don't play Dota but who cares right? | ||
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this is not counter strike also it's late and I'm off to bed. I'm town and this is how I roll. | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:03 ExO_ wrote: This is the worst part about this game, the people who won't actually make any attempt to play. Like it frustrates me to no end when people just troll and somehow they get passes. Why even play if you're just gonna sit around acting smug and mocking people. At least try to solve the game please idiot. this feels townnie | ||
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##vote Dandel Ion | ||
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No I'm voting him for the funsies | ||
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It's in the post you quoted. To elaborate: oneliners, useless posts that do nothing but derail the thread. Which is mafia indicative. On October 20 2016 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote: Koshi why are you asking that question | ||
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Dumb reaction. If he's town (which I think) and genuinely pissed, then making fun of him will not help a town atmosphere to rise. Instead, it will just piss the guy more off. So either dumb reaction, or you're scum trying to piss off town. | ||
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Please contribute to the game in a good way for town. | ||
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Nice reaction again! Welcome to my list of "scum or incredibly bad". | ||
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You're not | ||
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Prove that by actually playing and chasing your reads. | ||
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 gonna be a hard one | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:52 Dandel Ion wrote: i am i posted a case on both scumreads already Sorry for not recognizing the strong case in your detailed posts, apparently I'm dumb | ||
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can I just roll over and die now? | ||
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Of course, we played like 150 games together. Any town should try to convince others to lynch his scumread. Which you know. So it's interesting you're trying to get off that point. | ||
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you're derailing the thread with oneliners and trolly posts which is why I voted you. You reacted by claiming that you were trolling to gain reads. I think that might be possible but you need to follow up on your reads to not be scumread by me anymore. So for now, I'm not willing to push for a Dandel lynch anymore while I still scumlean him. | ||
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On October 10 2016 16:37 Lunaticman wrote: /in but please pm me before it starts. On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote: I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual. #Vote Koshi 100% of Lunatic's filter, and he's gone again. That's either huge disinterest or scummy. | ||
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On October 20 2016 20:16 Dandel Ion wrote: i want you to know that i typed up + Show Spoiler + sure i'll do exactly what you say to make you stop scumreading me that's how this game works but decided against posting it because i am a mature person I have already moved on, Dandel. Sorry but this is a break-up. I just cannot live in that conversation any longer. | ||
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On October 20 2016 20:20 Dandel Ion wrote: i am for this motion sure you can itll be easyyyyyy we have cookiesssss just be reminded that if you keep trolling, you'll keep my vote on you. | ||
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On October 20 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote: I'll do stuff when I do stuff. Okay ##vote Koshi | ||
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On October 20 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote: This reads a lot like the newbie-game where he was scum and just stepped into the thread with an obvious town-read on stutters without anything to back it up tbh. Exactly. I was scum with him in that game, with MoosyDoosy. He was kinda active in scum QT but really inactive in the game thread until pressure was put on him (if I recall that correctly). Scumlean stands. | ||
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On October 20 2016 21:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh Btdt is here. Hai! Tell us: y u so scum? I'm not scummy | ||
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On October 20 2016 21:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh Btdt is here. Hai! Tell us: y u so scum? Also have you even read me completely as I said I'd be here for some hours during cleaning house yet you call me scummy. Calling an active player who's pushy scummy is for sure a bold move | ||
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On October 20 2016 21:28 WaveofShadow wrote: I know you do Kurumi <3 K off to work. Depending on how slow the day is ill be back to be all disruptive and spammy and stuff and maybe catch some more scummers Yeah, here goes the scumlean. Lynch: Koshi Lunatic WaveOfShadow Policy Lynch maybe: Dandel | ||
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On October 20 2016 21:30 Dandel Ion wrote: are you actually serious genuine question Yes. | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:18 iamperfection wrote: I read his filter and it made me think town Reconsider. He's not doing anything at all. | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:21 iamperfection wrote: Overall tone/ not caring that people voted for him Skim his filter in his last games. That's exactly how he played as scum. | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:20 Lunaticman wrote: We all know Koshi screwed up and stopped posting because he knows we know he screwed up. Just lynch him and be done with it. I am not understanding how you get into the thread, drop a Koshi vote, get out again, come in then just at the very point where Koshi is again the topic. | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:21 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote: Dandel looks like a jester(if there is a role like that in this forum) and even if they were townie I would be up for a PL, their shitposting hurts town more than it helps. In my understanding, no "normal" rules are included in this game. | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:24 beentheredonethat wrote: In my understanding, no "normal" EBWOP | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:32 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote: but scum wont take such high risks. What do you mean with "high risk"? | ||
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That's why I think it's unlikely that he's really scum. Why do you want to policy lynch him if you think it's a high risk for him to play this way as scum? Also, On October 20 2016 22:31 beentheredonethat wrote: Hamazura, given you're not familiar with this site, what do you think about Koshi? | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Read my post again, I'm pretty sure that answers your question Not to me. It would be great if you could elaborate. Don't be lazy. | ||
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The way Dandel posts is disruptive, trolly and doesn't help town in any way. Hamazura says that this is high risk scum play if it is scum play. I say that this is why I wouldn't lynch Dandel today. More clear? | ||
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Would you please actually play the game? | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:51 Koshi wrote: I am playing the game. I am following the thread carefully. You're following the thread and picking random replies. You're playing absolutely reactive and are not initiating anything although you claimed multiple times to do so. Koshi, you are scum. | ||
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On October 20 2016 23:13 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote: shitposting itself is a scumtell though and scum would try to look productive rather than shitpost. Too many woulds. Are there precedence games where dandel shitposts as town? | ||
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See one post above. | ||
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On October 20 2016 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote: This guy is new to TL, right? Unless something has majorly changed since I've been playing Check cruise mafia. Close to 0 shitposting from town. | ||
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yo guys vote Koshi | ||
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On October 21 2016 03:45 Skynx wrote: Have you read my post? Your arguments can be applied to most other people in the game. That's not true as Koshi's last three games where exactly the way he plays right now. That means that my arguments might not be alignment indicative for everyone but for Koshi, they are. | ||
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On October 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote: Now I usually hate hate hate mechanics discussion because all it does it give an excuse for other people to scumread that one guy for filler posts when they don't actually mean anything. He has a point tho, remember your last game getting spammed the shit out by our dear Calix/NU which caused town to loose all traction and get clean swept. I like the genuine reactions here. I mean sure playing reactive is bad and u have a point but its not even 24h into the game yet. He responds exactly like I would to your pressure so thats some positive points. Yeah i'm not sure if I can jump on your boat here, Koshi played scum 3 games in a row now, last of which he was super obvious. I'm confident I can meta him from D2-3. The "genuine" reactions are exactly that - reactive. And exactly what every single player would say and generic af. | ||
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On October 21 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote: How can you be so sure about that? Check iamp, 5 pages of absolute nothingness. It's fine pressuring him to get reads out but I don't want people loosing themselves tunneling one guy very early on. If you're fine reading Koshi we'll nail him anyway. I'm gona wait at least for later tomorrow. I said same about emperor on presidental mafia and 2nd half of D1 he acted super wierd and we got an easy vigshot To be honest I'm not tunneling here. I'm just trying to get others on my (only hard) scum read thus far. I want to make Koshi play the game. Iamperfect - gotta check that, yeah. | ||
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also note how dandel sucks again | ||
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On October 21 2016 04:27 Koshi wrote: There is a chance I forgot how to play town. Nothing really caught my eye from the last 10 pages. Kurumi ritoky are my best guesses for mafia atm. Stop playing reactive. Start to read into people. Dive filters. Or, roll over and die. | ||
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hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah? | ||
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On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote: HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you. 180 | ||
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* 1 koshi * 2 luna * 2 iamp * 2 Dandel | ||
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On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote: HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you. On October 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote: That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play. Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi. On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote: Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote: I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. No lol | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason Carry on everybody This is not true. People agree on Koshi, people agree on Lunatic kinda, and we're 24 hours in. Not sure what you're expecting but it reads like a lazy excuse and doesn't feel townie. | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Actually lunatic's super serial attitude reminds me of somebody acting in much the same way as him who has disappeared and everyone has forgotten about. Gonna look at exo later Also who are 'people'?' There are no votes on either of them that would suggest what you say to be true. "people" are my subjective feeling about what the thread is about. Who's clearly not scumreading Koshi right now? | ||
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Could you just answer it? This feels like you're scum, knowing that ritoky and HF are town, and you want to start a fire. | ||
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The post I quoted originally (the nested one) is literally the only thing in your filter that could be slightly interpreted as not reactive. Given you've been called out to drop reads multiple times I am not accepting the quoted post as participation. Please vote Koshi. | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Ugh this is so baaaaad Stop making posts like this 1. WoS gets asked 2. Dodges question 3. Calls someone who calls him out on the dodge "baaaaad" Have my scumread. | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Elaborate for me, why does this make koshi scum? Read the thread (or just my filter) to understand why I scumread him. Or, continue to participate without even having read the thread and calling others bad. I hope you get the irony. | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:34 Dandel Ion wrote: based on experince, i'd say absolutely nowhere but maybe you'll have better luck Dandel, would you mind to start reading people, playing the game in a townie manner and so on? | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:36 Dandel Ion wrote: yawn toxic as fuck, not participating, even successfully provoking me. have my fuck you. Will happily vote you. | ||
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Dandel get off your high horse and stop being arrogant. Your participation might've improved but there's no need to act cocky because I called you out repeatedly for the 80% or your content that are pure shit. | ||
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Like wtf, Wave. | ||
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Sooo Lunatic keke. | ||
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On October 22 2016 02:51 Acrofales wrote: Bah. He's like BM. Makes no sense at all. Is calling HF scum by association without having any flips. I can't read him, and don't get any obvious scum vibes from him. So prefer to lynch someone else. Why you want to keep H1 around? Yeah BM would be a fine lynch I think but I havent really dived lynch low activity also great | ||
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Vivax is like the cheap policy thing can we just shennanie on Koshi? | ||
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like Holyflare | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:00 iamperfection wrote: Your vote is being wasted it's not gonna happen today Why do you want me to vote Vivax so badly? Why shouldn't I lynch Lunatic? | ||
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On October 18 2016 18:02 Holyflare wrote: Pre game bs excuse: I'm playing a less spammy more case based afk game this game. Yeah that's true I feel like Lunatic should flip as HF hard read him as scum and it's a good thing to start. I like HFs filter so far, feels townie | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:05 iamperfection wrote: I'm in diffrent to lunatic I don't care if he dies or not. Vivax is capable as playing as town he isn't we should kill. Your vote on Koshi is wasted That does not align. | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:20 iamperfection wrote: He is capable as a town player. He ain't playing therfore he is scum That's actually a bad reason and feels constructed. Are you pushing a mislynch here that seems to be on easy afk town? | ||
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really, my vote is good where it is. You're arguing like Trump. "Here's evidence you're bad." - "No I'm not" | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:29 Acrofales wrote: There is no bad lynch on Vivax. At lylo, if the other guy claims scum, it is still a great idea to lynch Vivax. It's day 1 with 24 players and you argue with lylo? :/ I think lynching vivax is a good thing, yeah. but I feel like the reason iamp brought up is bad: "He's capable as town but he's not playing so he's scum". That feels really constructed. | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote: What if I tell you I play like this because I am a town powerrole? Then you could easily ignore me and my ongoing inquiries and not soft-claim that powerrole. You're not that bad that close to EoD1 without being in danger to get lynched, you start claiming a power role. Really, you're scum Koshi, and you can easily prove that you're not by starting to actually play the game instead of dodging anything. Currently, you're like Trump. | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:19 ExO_ wrote: You say to vote Vivax, and then 10 minutes later say he is capable of playing as town like this and shouldn't be voted This still stands by the way. "Vivax is capable as playing as town he isn't we should kill" - this clearly says that Vivax is not who we should kill. 10 minutes before, he said we should kill Vivax. | ||
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Stop making jokes. Start to play. the. game. Start to be towny. Holy moly, how can people not vote you at this point? | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:37 beentheredonethat wrote: Stop making jokes. Start to play. the. game. Start to be towny. Holy moly, how can people not vote you at this point? Like: Drop scum reads. How are you scumreading? Why? Pursue those reads. Chase people. Pressure people, don't go with the yolo swaggons that are 50% uninteresting right now. You're here! Start performing! | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:53 Koshi wrote: Well i gtg watch independance day. Glhf. vote koshi. | ||
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On October 22 2016 04:48 iamperfection wrote: You don't like the case on tick why? Havnt read it yet. Gf is here. I just think koshi is a good lynch. | ||
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He scumreads Kurumi and Lunatic which at the point he does it is exactly what people currently are all about. He never followed up on Hopeless although he "gave him scum vibes". He's been doing a lot of role guessing ("TPro", "looks like a jester") which looks like a role hunting mindset. Wants to policy lynch Dandel for shitposting but in the end says he's got a "neutral" stance towards him. Then, he scumreads sicklucker for reaons that HF brought up but also doesn't follow up. Settles down, long story short, on Kurumi and Lunatic which is boring and following thread sentiment. He has 2 pages of filter and has voted so he's likely to not get replaced today. I think we should shennanie here. ##unvote ##vote HamazuraXTakitsubo | ||
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On October 22 2016 05:38 ritoky wrote: didn't you want a koshi and luna flip? why are you pushing some random afk lynch over 2 plausible lynches that you want. Luna feels really cheap by now although my points still stand, good call. Im feeling Lucky. Koshi,see above. What do you think about my shennanie reasons tho? | ||
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Koshi 4 Decide guys, decide | ||
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On October 22 2016 05:41 Lord Tolkien wrote: Fuck you been Moonlight drowns out all but the brightest stars. | ||
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On October 22 2016 05:48 ritoky wrote: cuz i think he's the guy who suggested there's a jester in the game, which just seems to dumb to be mafia. So a genuine dumb tell? Put that in the context of the rest of the role guessing he does and re-think. Still townread? | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:53 Koshi wrote: Well i gtg watch independance day. Glhf. 20.53 On October 22 2016 05:51 Koshi wrote: Well movie is over. Dont know how I can easy your minds. My role is pro town and I can proof it. You will see. 22.51 Independence Day 2 is according to wikipedia 120 minutes long really, Koshi? | ||
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On October 22 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote: Must be 2 mins shorter then. Also I dont watch credits. Hm it's kinda pointless to brag about this now but I feel like "I'll be in thread shortly before deadline" does not match the "I don't give a fuck about this game and do not properly play it" pattern that you have shown the last 47 hours. | ||
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but no, actually I don't believe you. | ||
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oh cmon I've said that so often but yeah not gonna happen so I'm settling on Tictock right? | ||
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On October 22 2016 05:58 Dandel Ion wrote: 8 to 6 for TT atm if im counting this correctly now the fun part of a town too bad to consolidate waiting to see if the lurkers show up to randomly swing the lynch you're not counting this correctly  | ||
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Town feels a bit headless right now. Too few people actually opposing the tictock wagon is worrying me. Koshi should be vigged at night if there is such a role. I targeted koshi with my ability and hopefully dealt 8hp. Im ranged. | ||
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On October 22 2016 23:22 WaveofShadow wrote: See the problem I see is, if you were actually RBed it makes you town but nothing is stopping any one of you from lying about actually targeting me and there's no way anyone even claims rb so it doesn't really amount to anything in the end anyway. An interesting question: are you allowed to do nothing during a phase? Because people took penalties for not submitting stuff, but are you allowed to choose not to? I guess not? Being rolebloxked doesn't confirm him. You even say that there might be town roleblocker in yet you say it would confirm. Getting scum vibes here,the post is not only highly hypothetically but its also wrong and totally empty. | ||
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On October 23 2016 02:14 Tubesock wrote: I'm confused. So, you thought town was afk, so instead of going for Koshi, who've you were after, you decide to go after hazmatubo which no one was on. And would have required A LOT more people to be around to execute? I think you were trying to deflect and make some chaos. Except you have the order wrong. I pushed for shennanies, saw it didn't work out, then I chose to consolidate instead of voting for Koshi. Also, why should I stir up chaos as scum given that the Tictock wagon was not going to be derailed? | ||
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On October 23 2016 02:16 Skynx wrote: @Tubesock, iamp, HF. I'm also sick of your antics calling me useless with shit list but then feel not sure about my alginment. Man the fuck up vote me and see if you can convince other 20 people playing the game that I'm scum based on whatever reasons you have, if you have any if that is. Feels like a genuine town reaction. | ||
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On October 23 2016 02:21 Tubesock wrote: Huh? how do I have the order wrong? Youve been after Koshi for quite some time. You then call for shenannies on Taco Bell instead of Koshi and end up on TicTock... Wait, are you saying that your shenannies failed because town was AFK and not because town just didn't agree that Taco Bell would have been better? Yes. I tried over the day to get ppl on koshi but it didnt happen. So shennanies. Noone following,few people there so i consolidated. Read from that as you prefer but dont forget the rest of my Filter upon your final judgement. | ||
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Ugh This post Really,gtfo and dont talk to me with that shitty attitude. Just vote me and do your thing, Waveofshit. | ||
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On October 23 2016 02:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Wow, tell me how you really feel. If you're personally insulted by me calling out a bad idea and a bad post then you're playing the wrong game. Lynch is vivax and no one else. Also in regards to acros big damage and stuff post, sicklucker needs to tell us what he did to find out why damage on me doesn't add up. Why not directly that way? Is there a specific reason why you say "ugh this post" and dont just explain why its bad? Dont expect me to discuss witj you on a serious level if you put your opinion this way. | ||
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No idea how to read into that filter tbh. feels like he's a pothead. looks kinda scummy from skimming only. 2 Rels replaced by Artanis[Xp] Artanis' defended me which I like but besides that he did not much else. Pushes Koshi (well everyone does att his point) and WIFOM scumreads HF. Not particularly scummy but not townie as well. Needs to step up. 3 Dandel Ion 11 pages of activity and I think his posting has improved by now so im not down to lynching him anymore. On October 22 2016 05:59 Dandel Ion wrote: btnd hardconfirmed town btw huh? thanks, how? 4 Holyflare Plus: super pushy vs. tictock Minus: tictock flipped town HF is easily capable of leading such a mislynch but it can also be he's just wrong on a case which can happen. What happened to his SL and ritoky scumreads? 5 Skynx He put one post with reads but neither did he chase his scumreads nor did he defend his townreads. He /in /out /in pregame so maybe it's just him not willing to commit time to the game. gut says he's going to flip town but technically he's a good lynch. 6 iamperfection basically wants to lynch Vivax which is okay. Don't want to read all 11 pages of oneliners now though so.. yeah. 11 pages say town though. 7 beentheredonethat that's me and I'm town. 8 Lunaticman 2 pages of filter, hasn't improved, nothing new to add to my scumread at this point. 9 HamazuraXTakitsubo On October 22 2016 05:30 beentheredonethat wrote: Let's shennanie onto HamazuraXTakitsubo (Taco Bell guy) He scumreads Kurumi and Lunatic which at the point he does it is exactly what people currently are all about. He never followed up on Hopeless although he "gave him scum vibes". He's been doing a lot of role guessing ("TPro", "looks like a jester") which looks like a role hunting mindset. Wants to policy lynch Dandel for shitposting but in the end says he's got a "neutral" stance towards him. Then, he scumreads sicklucker for reaons that HF brought up but also doesn't follow up. Settles down, long story short, on Kurumi and Lunatic which is boring and following thread sentiment. He has 2 pages of filter and has voted so he's likely to not get replaced today. I think we should shennanie here. ##unvote ##vote HamazuraXTakitsubo Would lynch 10 ptmc town because + Show Spoiler + On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote: Ticktock: + Show Spoiler + Hopeless' arguing feels town Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave Wave's arguing feels town Iam feels scum likes BM's post about Wave/Exo dislikes HF dislikes me for my post on Wave likes Acro dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts says it is normal to not like sicklucker Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler + votes ritoky for meta-reads dislikes coordinated attacks dislikes sicklucker dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk wary of wave, since he is only coasting dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded Thinks Skynx has a shit filter Thinks lunatics filter is scummy thinks i'm on point thinks ritoky hedges a lot dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler + Starts really weak, but then shapes up: dislikes Tubesock and BM dislikes LT pressure on lurkers still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler + needs a healer wants to coordinate slightly town on ritoky townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt thinks acro is bad tho thinks koshi could be town for tone dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him agrees with HF's assessment of BM Lists all his reads, null: Tubesock, no interactions with the thread Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me" Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now" BM, doesn't want to read his filter Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum scum: GB: scum, doesn't do anything LT, lurker with only trash posts Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel lurker: Eversince, Vivax, Rels Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler + claims Bloodseeker wants coordination HF leans town Acro is mafia (soul reading) dislikes GB not sold wave is town iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf now does not want to stack kp unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler + Exo's post on Wave feels towny Dandel is only posting shit, votes him likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy) Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm starts to push koshi instead votes koshi list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy Maybe Dandel calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi dislikes sicklucker dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense dandel sucks again sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead. Says BM's weird posts fit his meta back to disliking Wave for dodging questions very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler + Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel slight town lean on ritoky not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler + Koshi is "obviously" scum does not want to clutter the thread btdt gets a tone town read not sure on HF gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler + Dislikes Dandel for shitposting Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned" very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler + Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate asks people for their reads might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler + Kurumi is trolling shitposts for days gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong) Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking dislikes Hopeless Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel Scum: WoS, hopeless Wave has provided enough to unvote likes tubesock likes lunatic thinks koshi is genuine votes HF posts self meta as to why he is not mafia ticktock is mafia is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF likes Ticktock I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler + joke-votes Skynx? votes Iamp for role-fishing slight tr on exo, null o Wave wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later Playing erratic is Kurumis thing? List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi, on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe) Wants to ignore BM New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler + likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing exo tentatively town Wave tentatively town likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement) productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler + omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow? dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo tries to get exo out of his tunnel little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler + claims Techies reads iamp town because he is funny gets called out for shitposting by btdt thinks exo is scum I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it dislikes Vivax should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler + (disregarding his "claim" post) doubts Dandel is scum suspicious of btdt Acro and Kurumi are town lot of filler Hamazu gets townread wants to coordinate sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt wants to make LT squirm scumreads me for voting for him Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now so much effort and it's reproducable and feels genuine 11 ExO_ Plays too much CIV but I actually believe that. I like that he dislikes WoS. 12Acrofales I think he's town for the whole movement list shit 13 Eversince replaced by NocturneMage First things he comes up with are scumming Lunatic and Koshi (thread sentiment), finding reasons to scumread Vivax (thread sentiment), then some wishywashy stuff about others. Not liking that, we should keep an eye on him. 14Kurumi Way too low activity level. He's posting lists. He's not pursuing his scumreads. I don't like that. I really don't like that. 15Hopeless1der On October 22 2016 11:49 Hopeless1der wrote: WoS, I'm not asking for you to give us the post itself, I'm asking the timestamp associated with the post/message that told you that you did take damage/ your KP was reduced. Surely you understand why I might give a shit about that, considering I'm keeping a record of claimed KP/HP/actions and you made a point of telling me you were "pristine". I want to see that record and I'll give a town read in return. 16 ritoky On October 23 2016 03:41 ritoky wrote: my weekend is pretty busy, gonna try to read the thread while i have an hour or 2 right now; but not going to be capable of much until monday. Let's hope this is true because right now, it's just a useless page 1 of her filter, followed by one more page of emptiness, and then some wishywashy conversations. 17 Vivax Yeah Vivax. 18 Koshi Yeah Koshi. 19 GlowingBear On October 18 2016 16:06 GlowingBear wrote: I'd play but I don't want to put effort And I don't want to read And I don't have time And I don't want to risk my win rate as mafia Wrote that pregame. And that's what he's doing. Lynch with fire, 2 pages of activity. Shame he's in the game (or he's scum). 20 sicklucker Did nothing memorable. 21 WaveofShadow Don't want to actually townread him but 10 pages of discussion are worth it. I think his posting style is bad for town though. This guy is a potential nightkill/vig target just to make me smile at least. Like a toxic lol player. 22 Tubesock Actually, reading Tubesock's filter makes my scum bells ring. He's asking 100000 questions ("why?" "who?") and so on but never(!) follows up. Then he says he'd vote for ptmc whoI townread by a lot buuuut he goes for Vivax in his vote. BUT: He actually tries to get me on voting Koshi. If he would be scum, that wouldn't make sense, except if Koshi was town and not scum. Sooo I think a Koshi red flip will paint Tubesock green, a koshi green flip will paint Tubesock maybe a bit red. If tubesock follows up a bit more on his questions (his filter, p2/3, is again full of questions but he never seems to follow up) I'll give him a town pass. However I think we can read into him depending on the koshi flip. 23 Lord Tolkien Absolutely shit filter. Does nothing, then says "fuck off been" when I tried to shennanie and disappeared again. Looks like he really wanted Tictock to happen. Besides that, he did literally nothing to drive the game foward in a townie manner. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote: I already explained this. Also Im pretty sure everyone I called scum this game immediately called me scum back. Tolk, SL, ptmc, Btdt. Like clockwork It's like the twilight zone I'm not scumreading you tbh I just think you're toxic af and some posts of you are scummy | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:24 Dandel Ion wrote: i would have actually answered that but now i want skynx to give it a try first. if he just doesnt and fucks off again remind me d2 if its important to you Actually that makes me likely to die during this night as I'm active and apparently confirmed town. :/ | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:26 ritoky wrote: btdt you probably don't want to hear this from a washed up salty dog like me, but if you're town; 2 pieces of advice for future games: 1) posts that list every player are less beneficial than posts that focus hard in on a few and 2) generally speaking don't post glowing town reads during night phase, you only put targets on people/help mafia. good advise. 1) I'll follow up on my "new" scumreads soon(tm), 2) oh well I'm sorry | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:26 ritoky wrote: btdt you probably don't want to hear this from a washed up salty dog like me, but if you're town; 2 pieces of advice for future games: 1) posts that list every player are less beneficial than posts that focus hard in on a few and 2) generally speaking don't post glowing town reads during night phase, you only put targets on people/help mafia. nevertheless, what do you think about my scumreads? | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:31 Holyflare wrote: hopeless town reads him afaik, artanis said he could see him being town and artanis is mafia but take that as you want I dont know what I expected but I cannot deduce anything from that. Like, pattern should be "obtain information, get smarter" but all I got was obtain information so far. Hm brainfart. brb. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote: I think it might actually help you HF if you answer and are town. If you don't answer your basically saying your mafia. Although the same could be said about Koshi. It's basically down to who ever out of you two that answers first. Why exactly do you scumread HF? And don't say it's in your filter. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:33 Dandel Ion wrote: inconceivable yes how exactly does that not factor into your read of hopeless at all i wonder Good call from you/hf. Noted. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:34 Lunaticman wrote: TL:DR meta read combined with miss lynch and not taking responsibility. Okay,im not buying that but okay. Who else is scum? | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:35 ritoky wrote: i think you're wrong on hamamuratacobellchalupa but my reason is awful. i realize he has done literal stone nothing, but the suggesting a jester thing as a new player (i think) to this site just seems like such a dumb town tell to me. the rest of your hard scum reads are very bland and thread sentimenty to me. you said nothing i felt was a keen observation or original that made me think they were more scum or you were more town. plus you insulted me, and i shed a tear. That strikes me as odd. Let me explain: First of all, you brought your argument of a dumbtell on taco bell before already. I know that, so you're not adding anything new. Which is fine as I didn't raise anything new either but I wished that my scumread would make you re-read and reconsider. You chose to hard defend taco bell so you should be interested in doing a bit more than just dropping the same thing again, right? Then, you say I'd follow thread sentiment. Except I was the one who started the Koshi wagon and pushed for it over the course of day 1. Going with Vivax isn't thread sentimenty as it's objectivally a good thing to lynch him. Same applies to Lunatic. Keep in mind that the goal of listing my scumreads is not to make myself town but instead raise awareness and get others to pursue those guys, too. You're not doing that, you're reading my list only in the context of beentheredonethat's alignment. Why do you focus so hard on me? It's not directly scummy to do that, yeah, but I think there are plenty of people to talk about. If you choose to try to read me, then ask questions, read my filter or whatever, but don't sacrifice my reads. I actually want to talk about my reads. Please do so . | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:43 Lunaticman wrote: I'm kinda still trying to figure out Koshi/HF. But I don't like Vivax. Ptm is probably town. I have a few more town reads but I'll have to look at the player list. You do agree that "I'm working on Koshi/HF and I don't like Vivax" is pretty much the lamest answer you can give to that question? | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:44 Holyflare wrote: Can you explain to me how I didn't take responsibility for the lynch? I told you I did but I gave him lots of outs and he didn't post anything worthy of me not voting him. It's just the way mafia goes. I don't think that you engaging in a discussion with Lunatic will lead to anything valuable, so maybe you might want to drop more scumreads? I mean you started the case on Tictock, surely you can deduce something from people's reaction to your initial case, although it was on town? You have a reputation, live up to it | ||
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okay, fair and square, now please stop this uselessness and do something useful | ||
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Nothing new about Vivax but it strengthens my Tolkien scumread tbh | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:50 Holyflare wrote: I think ritoky's read is shit but it's something that I'm more used to a town ritoky posting and ritoky did that thing d1 with his lunatic/gb read to "mindmeld" me so he's in my whatever list and i'll see what he does that's a half-assed meta read if I've ever seen one. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:49 Holyflare wrote: I can't be bothered to do something useful I'll just likely wait till next phase and I've told you the most useful information in the game already, artanis is definitely mafia. Like Tictock was mafia? Spitting out names is not exactly great. Starting to dislike HF here. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:54 ritoky wrote: 1) because while other people think it is stupid and have told me so on multiple occasions and lynched me over it; i am a firm believer in the game philosophy that 1 moment in someone's filter can make them irrevocably town or mafia. i think this is especially the case with new players. many people lose sight of a moment of clarity over the course of 10 days as it gets muddled in shitwater; i try to hold on to those moments. 2) it's 100 pages, i don't remember who started trains that 15 people agree on, maybe it was you. but what you said about those trains i had read before from multiple people. so basically what i am saying is it didn't advance my opinion to a new understanding about the players you were scum reading, and didn't spark interest/awareness; it simply re-hashed whats already been said. it also lacked an a-ha or keen observation which would make me think "wow btdt is really looking at this game critically, damn sooooo town." so basically it didn't adjust my read on your scum reads or you. i do like that you care about your reads though, that's more than many. 1) + Show Spoiler + Sorry, not buying that. As simple as this. From an objective point of view, a jester role speculation is no town dumb tell. Nor a scum dumb tell. It's just a "I come from a different playing environment" dumbtell. Not less, not more. 2) Okay, point taken, but if you want to scumread me for following thread sentiment, wouldn't it be a good idea to actually mae sure that I am following thread sentiment? You said earlier you want me to not post 10000 scumreads but instead post 1-2 and focus on them. Okay, good point. Can you please do the same then? | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:55 Holyflare wrote: How is it spitting out names? Have you not read? I made a case. I tend to not say "case" to short posts like that. Maybe I'm pocketed as Art defended me and I really liked that and yes, maybe he's scum, if he hadn't replaced in, I'd fully agree with you. However he replaced in on a weekend, people are busy on weekends. Will need to see his D2 performance before I judge there. | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:08 ritoky wrote: most people don't and dismiss when i make reads like that as dumb (even though they are generally highly accurate if i would like to pat myself on the back for a moment). i gave up on trying to sell people on them long ago. i just think new player + new environment + rolled mafia tends to a mindset of caution, and suggesting a jester is not that + not a thought that pops in a common mafia's head. i can post long form reads on monday if i am still alive. i think my town reads are stronger than my mafia reads though tbh. GB has me shook a bit right now. A jester is a role that wins if he gets lynched before MYLO/LYLO. It is third party. I don't see a scum or a town dumbtell happening in the context of third party role speculations. It feels more like natural behaviour or a user that has not played on teamliquid before which is absolutely not alignment indicative. I mean we're getting repetitive here. So let's drop that topic and agree to disagree. One last thing: you have locked taco bell as town by that dumbtell. You are seemingly not willing to reconsider that. Is that correct? | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:10 Holyflare wrote: I have way more time on weekends I dunno why everyone says weekends tank activity, also Artanis town reading you is not exactly rocket science for mafia to do that's their easiest thing to go to. Trust me he'd have wayyyyyyyyy more motivation than the trash he posted, he's had literally the whole week to talk to rsoultin about the game since he was on the replacement list from the start of it. I don't know why you're picking me out only for posting lazy reads when you literally just watched me coach disformation/shadow and tell him the entire time i'm lazy as fuck and you also just saw dandel drop names and you didn't call him out. don't like man You may have more time, others don't. Artanis and rsoultin are in a relationship and they might enjoy spare time with each other that is not mafia-related. I don't think that Art and rsoul necessarily read every single game they observe and stay up to date. I've seen people in obs qts not reading the game at all. Your argument about his motivation doesn't stand, it implies that a) he has the time to play over weekends (which is not confirmed) and b) he has paid attention to the game thus far (which is not confirmed) so it's highly hypothetic and in no way a justification for the hard-on you have about him being scum. I picked you out because you're in the thread right now, there's nothing more to it. You're apparently trying to throw shade on me although I simply started to put pressure on you - especially since you said "townreading me is the easiest thing for mafia to do". Which I think implies that you townread me. So that must mean that you are annoyed by my questioning. The point about the disformation shadowing is good tho. But tbh that post feels really weak, doesn't add anything about Artanis/your read about him nor makes your read on him more reproducable. Why not wait for D2 to see how he develops (I mean that's all I say after all)? I don't see an Artanis wagon happening over Vivax/Koshi/Lunatic and wouldn't even vote him over my other scumreads. You're locked on Artanis and you seemingly get pissed when called out on that. | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:13 Holyflare wrote: your whole read progression on me looks really fake, I've posted lazy reads pretty much the entirety of the night and only know are you saying something my ritoky read is still legit and founded on game reasons, he posted things that agreed with what I was saying but he's done that before as mafia to placate my fears so I'm hesitant to town read him I'm fine with not town-reading ritoky, he isn't town-read by me, too. I'm not fine with "your read progression looks fake" as I haven't townread you at any point, nor have I scumread you before. We're in a discussion just now, and based on this discussion, I start to scumlean you. Where is that fake? (also, no, I don't want to be drawn into that argument. I think the other players should judge on their own if my read progression looks fake or not. I don't want to lose track because of that) | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:20 ritoky wrote: We aren't going to see eye to eye. Not willing to reconsider? I wouldn't go that far, but it would take hard evidence or continued mafia behavior to begin the reconsidering process for me. Based on his activity level thus far, I doubt the latter is going to happen at any point this game. But that's exactly what I see in his filter. Also, the longer the game goes on, the scummier a low-activity poster that manages to just-not-get-modkilled gets, so I don't understand how you doubt that you'll reconsider? | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:23 ritoky wrote: what's wrong with HF's artanis read? artanis isn't one to have super shallow reads as town, yeah 100 pages as a sub is daunting, but i expected him to have at least 1 read with some depth by now. I posted that already, but here it is once more: it's a read on a replacement that had less than 24 hours to catch up 120+ pages. I think it's way too early to scumread him for the reasons HF mentioned. The reasons are technically valid, but I think town!Artanis will improve by a lot over D2. Of course I don't have the meta advantage that you guys have as you're present on this page way longer than I am. | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:24 Holyflare wrote: ok you can keep doing what you're doing and, no, I don't town read you I have no idea where you got that from my reads haven't actually really changed since I posted that list other than artanis moving to definitely mafia because rels replaced and is around online playing games and artanis' posts were trash hedges on everything he said apart from his read on you which was based entirely on your post COUNT which was irrelevant as that game had half the amount of this one the entirety of it his read on vivax is entirely based on post count too when he should know that vivax plays trash like this as town too because he did that a few games ago as town and I'm pretty sure artanis commented on that his hopeless read is "hopeless is doing something" which is another useless post that is based on basically no reasoning he's given 4 reads and they're all based on throwaway useless reasons that aren't related to anything, even his read on me he basically calls me town, says I've done everything towny and then hedges like fuck and leaves it open to me being mafia which absolutely made no sense with what he posted I would really appreciate if you'd use more punctuation. I think you're townreading me because you say "[townreading btdt] is the easiest thing for mafia to do". That either implies that you're mafia, townreading me (because well you know I'm town) or you're town thinking "uhhh that btdt guy for sure gets townread by mafia" which, well, implies that I am town as it would be quite dumb for my potential scum teammates to townread me. This is what you said. Literally. So why are you saying you don't townread me here? Whoa wait, was that an actual scum slip? Guys, guys, please comment on that. I'm bolding it right now. This is the post where HF says it: On October 23 2016 05:10 Holyflare wrote: I have way more time on weekends I dunno why everyone says weekends tank activity, also Artanis town reading you is not exactly rocket science for mafia to do that's their easiest thing to go to. Trust me he'd have wayyyyyyyyy more motivation than the trash he posted, he's had literally the whole week to talk to rsoultin about the game since he was on the replacement list from the start of it. I don't know why you're picking me out only for posting lazy reads when you literally just watched me coach disformation/shadow and tell him the entire time i'm lazy as fuck and you also just saw dandel drop names and you didn't call him out. don't like man | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:29 ritoky wrote: i mean.....maybe you don't agree with him about artanis being 100% mafia, but your post implies that artanis needs to do more to deserve a town read. what's wrong with HF applying pressure to artanis to do said things, even if he is being extreme. Exactly that part, the "being extreme". Also it's useless to put pressure on Artanis given we have Koshi and Vivax as the go-to D2 wagons. HF was all about "yeah Koshi is bad" so why suddenly get a hard-on about Artanis? | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:37 NocturneMage wrote: how is that a scum slip? not seeing it here. sounds like a holyflare is talking about a go-to deflection for mafia. The scum slip would be that he doesn't town read me although he clearly implies that he does. Although I agree, sounds weak even in my own ears right now. | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:38 Holyflare wrote: I don't think I need more punctuation, it's quite obvious it says that mafia giving out town reads is easy for them to do. If you're town then you should realise this but you aren't and you're using it to defend a heavily bad playing artanis which is suspicious as fuck. So you imply that you townread me. Say you don't townread me. Say that it's easy for mafia to give out townreads (while you do the opposite thing) That's a scumslip | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:39 Holyflare wrote: it has nothing to do with my read on you in the slightest, that's poor reading comprehension on your part. possible, I'm not a native speaker | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:43 Holyflare wrote: I literally have no idea what this post says lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ whatevs you're looking in the wrong places, follow my scummy list it's a gold mine full circle, tictoc. On the other hand, you said "it's a gold mine" about your own town filter back in Cruise mafia, in obs QT though. Exactly the same thing. Coincidence? | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:46 Holyflare wrote: Yes, I totally remember that specific obs qt post and repeated it here to make you unsure. So meta. I feel bullied now. | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:47 Holyflare wrote: you're spamming up the thread basically talking about nonsense I don't hate your artanis sentiment but you should just let me push him instead of speaking for him That's actually a good point. I think my stance towards Artanis is clear. If he doesn't step up D2, I'll even push him with you for what it's worth. Maybe it's wrong to get persuaded by you but that's what just happened. | ||
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Also new player in? HF flipping should have been expected, happened in Cruise too. | ||
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On October 23 2016 04:21 beentheredonethat wrote: So let me clean up: Scumreads Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo Vivax Koshi Lord Tolkien Scumleans Bill Murray Skynx NocturneMage Kurumi ritoky GlowingBear sicklucker Townreads ptmc Acrofales Rest is null explained: + Show Spoiler + On October 23 2016 04:18 beentheredonethat wrote: 1 Bill Murray No idea how to read into that filter tbh. feels like he's a pothead. looks kinda scummy from skimming only. 2 Rels replaced by Artanis[Xp] Artanis' defended me which I like but besides that he did not much else. Pushes Koshi (well everyone does att his point) and WIFOM scumreads HF. Not particularly scummy but not townie as well. Needs to step up. 3 Dandel Ion 11 pages of activity and I think his posting has improved by now so im not down to lynching him anymore. huh? thanks, how? 4 Holyflare Plus: super pushy vs. tictock Minus: tictock flipped town HF is easily capable of leading such a mislynch but it can also be he's just wrong on a case which can happen. What happened to his SL and ritoky scumreads? 5 Skynx He put one post with reads but neither did he chase his scumreads nor did he defend his townreads. He /in /out /in pregame so maybe it's just him not willing to commit time to the game. gut says he's going to flip town but technically he's a good lynch. 6 iamperfection basically wants to lynch Vivax which is okay. Don't want to read all 11 pages of oneliners now though so.. yeah. 11 pages say town though. 7 beentheredonethat that's me and I'm town. 8 Lunaticman 2 pages of filter, hasn't improved, nothing new to add to my scumread at this point. 9 HamazuraXTakitsubo Would lynch 10 ptmc town because + Show Spoiler + On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote: Ticktock: + Show Spoiler + Hopeless' arguing feels town Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave Wave's arguing feels town Iam feels scum likes BM's post about Wave/Exo dislikes HF dislikes me for my post on Wave likes Acro dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts says it is normal to not like sicklucker Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler + votes ritoky for meta-reads dislikes coordinated attacks dislikes sicklucker dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk wary of wave, since he is only coasting dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded Thinks Skynx has a shit filter Thinks lunatics filter is scummy thinks i'm on point thinks ritoky hedges a lot dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler + Starts really weak, but then shapes up: dislikes Tubesock and BM dislikes LT pressure on lurkers still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler + needs a healer wants to coordinate slightly town on ritoky townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt thinks acro is bad tho thinks koshi could be town for tone dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him agrees with HF's assessment of BM Lists all his reads, null: Tubesock, no interactions with the thread Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me" Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now" BM, doesn't want to read his filter Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum scum: GB: scum, doesn't do anything LT, lurker with only trash posts Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel lurker: Eversince, Vivax, Rels Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler + claims Bloodseeker wants coordination HF leans town Acro is mafia (soul reading) dislikes GB not sold wave is town iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf now does not want to stack kp unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler + Exo's post on Wave feels towny Dandel is only posting shit, votes him likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy) Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm starts to push koshi instead votes koshi list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy Maybe Dandel calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi dislikes sicklucker dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense dandel sucks again sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead. Says BM's weird posts fit his meta back to disliking Wave for dodging questions very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler + Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel slight town lean on ritoky not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler + Koshi is "obviously" scum does not want to clutter the thread btdt gets a tone town read not sure on HF gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler + Dislikes Dandel for shitposting Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned" very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler + Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate asks people for their reads might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler + Kurumi is trolling shitposts for days gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong) Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking dislikes Hopeless Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel Scum: WoS, hopeless Wave has provided enough to unvote likes tubesock likes lunatic thinks koshi is genuine votes HF posts self meta as to why he is not mafia ticktock is mafia is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF likes Ticktock I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler + joke-votes Skynx? votes Iamp for role-fishing slight tr on exo, null o Wave wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later Playing erratic is Kurumis thing? List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi, on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe) Wants to ignore BM New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler + likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing exo tentatively town Wave tentatively town likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement) productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler + omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow? dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo tries to get exo out of his tunnel little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler + claims Techies reads iamp town because he is funny gets called out for shitposting by btdt thinks exo is scum I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it dislikes Vivax should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler + (disregarding his "claim" post) doubts Dandel is scum suspicious of btdt Acro and Kurumi are town lot of filler Hamazu gets townread wants to coordinate sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt wants to make LT squirm scumreads me for voting for him Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now so much effort and it's reproducable and feels genuine 11 ExO_ Plays too much CIV but I actually believe that. I like that he dislikes WoS. 12Acrofales I think he's town for the whole movement list shit 13 Eversince replaced by NocturneMage First things he comes up with are scumming Lunatic and Koshi (thread sentiment), finding reasons to scumread Vivax (thread sentiment), then some wishywashy stuff about others. Not liking that, we should keep an eye on him. 14Kurumi Way too low activity level. He's posting lists. He's not pursuing his scumreads. I don't like that. I really don't like that. 15Hopeless1der I want to see that record and I'll give a town read in return. 16 ritoky Let's hope this is true because right now, it's just a useless page 1 of her filter, followed by one more page of emptiness, and then some wishywashy conversations. 17 Vivax Yeah Vivax. 18 Koshi Yeah Koshi. 19 GlowingBear Wrote that pregame. And that's what he's doing. Lynch with fire, 2 pages of activity. Shame he's in the game (or he's scum). 20 sicklucker Did nothing memorable. 21 WaveofShadow Don't want to actually townread him but 10 pages of discussion are worth it. I think his posting style is bad for town though. This guy is a potential nightkill/vig target just to make me smile at least. Like a toxic lol player. 22 Tubesock Actually, reading Tubesock's filter makes my scum bells ring. He's asking 100000 questions ("why?" "who?") and so on but never(!) follows up. Then he says he'd vote for ptmc whoI townread by a lot buuuut he goes for Vivax in his vote. BUT: He actually tries to get me on voting Koshi. If he would be scum, that wouldn't make sense, except if Koshi was town and not scum. Sooo I think a Koshi red flip will paint Tubesock green, a koshi green flip will paint Tubesock maybe a bit red. If tubesock follows up a bit more on his questions (his filter, p2/3, is again full of questions but he never seems to follow up) I'll give him a town pass. However I think we can read into him depending on the koshi flip. 23 Lord Tolkien Absolutely shit filter. Does nothing, then says "fuck off been" when I tried to shennanie and disappeared again. Looks like he really wanted Tictock to happen. Besides that, he did literally nothing to drive the game foward in a townie manner. Those are my reads, not considering D2 as I havent read this yet | ||
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On October 24 2016 04:28 Tubesock wrote: beenthere, were you attacked? yep, claimed so too. | ||
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On October 24 2016 05:43 beentheredonethat wrote: seeing Koroko in the Not voting list. Does his vote actually count? posted that in the voting thread accidentally, im tired. | ||
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On October 24 2016 01:25 disformation wrote: Vote Count - Day 2 Vivax (8): iamperfection, Acrofales, Dandel Ion, Skynx (3): Koshi, Hopeless1der, Lunaticman (0): Not voted (10): Vivax, sicklucker, beentheredonethat, Lunaticman, HamazuraXTakitsubo, ptmc, Kurumi, ritoky, GlowingBear, Lord Tolkien, Koroko It looks like Vivax is about to be owned. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. How are people that get scumread by a lot of other people (plus Artanis who got dead scumread by town!HF) all on the counter wagon to Vivax? Hmm | ||
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On October 24 2016 05:56 Bill Murray wrote: Ah ok well good ... what do u think of sick lockers plan still havent caught up. what do you mean? | ||
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I just realized that my D1 ability costs me 4 hp, which makes it actually likely that someone who's next to me is attacking me with a basic attack. So I was attacked for 6hp D1, and for 6hp N1. Which makes it likely that the same person attacked me. Who is currently next to me? If it's the same person D1/N1, I at least know who it is. Funny enough, if the player list = start positions, it would be Skynx OR Lunatic. | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:08 Skynx wrote: ##Vote: Vivax Fuck this game. I'm just gona ignore everyone and kill mafia from now on. Yeah, you don't like me? Go ahead lynch me, it will work you wonders. Afk till Vivax and Koshi are dead, suit yourselves. That's absolutely anti town and just dumb | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:20 Koroko wrote: I am third party. My character is Meepo. My main account is already a player in the game. My win condition is to create 5 of myself. I have 2 abilities, one allows me to create another Meepo which will give me another account. The other allows me to shift which Meepo is the true Meepo and that is where my HP goes. I don't know if I am allowed to claim much more than that in regards to specifics and such. Due to the stringent moding I will stop there and potentially answer questions. That claim draws a lot of dmg towards you. Let's hope it's mostly scum dmg. Technically, it's enough for town to coordinate and kill off one copy every now and then so we should be fine. right? | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:28 Koroko wrote: Yes I have a basic attack. And no I am not a converter, I have the option to clone myself and make a new dummy account (meepo) every night. 1 person, multiple accounts, some micro required. Does every clone have a dedicated attack? Do your votes increase with each copy? | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:38 Acrofales wrote: Ok. Analyzed night actions. A lot easier this time round. I am actually considering switching to a Koshi lynch: Koshi moved to next to where HF was, who is now dead. Lol. Some explaining to do, buddy boy! Also, Skynx jumped over iamperfection or vice versa. Either iamp attacked Koshi (quite likely), or skynx attacked btdt. Skynx was D1 next to me (assuming starting positions equal player list). I got attacked D1 and N1 with the same amount of damage. Skynx, why are you attacking me? I thought you townread me? Skynx most likely scum. | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:43 Acrofales wrote: Then skynx jumped over you to do something to btdt. @skynx: why did you attack btdt? Because he's scum and I'm an easy target. | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:49 Skynx wrote: Your methods of reaching conclusions are faulty. I attacked iamp. But why do you ask me a question in vain when you already made up your mind about my alignment and why do i even bother replying at all i have no idea fuck this. I do not believe that. What is your motivation in attacking iamp? I thought you're all about lynching Koshi and Vivax, why the fuck would you attack outside of those? | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:58 Koshi wrote: I got damage again. Can't care enough to count it out. Did X damage to HF. Probably 7 or so. Fuck him. put some more dmg on him please, so we save a lynch. I'm attacking him, for sure I am. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote: Also I can still do the double lynch. It is a D2 ability. Due to not being able to say specifics it comes down to make 2 big wagons. This is bullshit. The clone guy fully explained his mechanic without any mod consequences and you flail. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:09 iamperfection wrote: or both maybe..... 2 townies did die im sure some townies attacked you i dont know why mafia would waste kp if your town on you Why would mafia hit a town person that is scumread by the most? It would actually cost mafia a mislynch if you would flip town due to attacks. I'm pretty sure you know that. You're scum 150%. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:13 Kurumi wrote: Again I haven't gotten attacked and have done the same action on iamp. Time constraints hit me very hard sadly. I'll update my list sometime soon and give some reasonings. Which action have you done on iamp? You can only submit one action per cycle. So what do you mean? I thought your action was cloning yourself? | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:09 iamperfection wrote: or both maybe..... 2 townies did die im sure some townies attacked you i dont know why mafia would waste kp if your town on you see above. No way scum would attack koshi here. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote: Or skynx. If he flips mafia I am also pretty much confirmed town. Defended me first and then called me mafia out of nowhere. ##unvote ##vote Skynx Please note that everyone voting Skynx is following a wagon that was most likely started by scum. Which I'd call bussing then. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:19 Koshi wrote: Also can the people who did damage on me claim? I got over 30. On October 23 2016 08:20 Koshi wrote: If nobody claims I suggest somebody to check my hp. 99% there is a role like that. It is like a green copcheck. oh cmon people believe already you got damage. No point in calling out a role that can do that. It's not like a green copcheck at all. Sicklucker's dumb to follow you. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote: should I bother reading last night or was it just all garbage? im kind of glad hf now we will be more civilized Check out HF's read on Artanis and look into Artanis. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:24 Hopeless1der wrote: Yeah this. Koshi can you tell us the threshold or do we just try to split votes 50/50 and hope it works? How are you ignoring everything that has been said thus far about Koshi and follow his weak, unjustified, flailing claim? | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:18 Tubesock wrote: I'm not sure I know who you're talking to. You think Iamperfection is 150% mafia? What? Whoops, Koshi 150%, not iamp. | ||
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This contradicts your D1 softclaim of being a blue by the way. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:51 Tubesock wrote: Actually, the best thing about this "double" lynch is that this phase won't be a snoozefest since we will be talking about who is the secondary lynch. If we just play with a single lynch in mind, it won't be as active since no one opposes the Vivax lynch. I think the key here is to combine town players to shoot Vivax and lynch Koshi or the other way round. | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Basic attacks can only attack the person next to you? There's range, too. I'm ranged. I'm pretty much guessing here that I was attacked by melees but of course it can be that two people that are ranged attacked me and by chance, they might deal the same amount of dmg. | ||
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On October 23 2016 10:11 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'm back from the Renn Fair. There was a German in lederhosen balancing a bowling ball on on a cue stick on his chin while hula-hooping while making the funny. + Show Spoiler + "Dont clap by yourself, oh no. You know I'm from East Germany, if you clapped individually you disappeared. You know the real reason the Berlin Wall came down was because Mexico stopped paying for it. Bad hombre." Cool, now do something maybe? | ||
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On October 23 2016 13:30 Hopeless1der wrote: We need two wagons. Vivax is an easy and obvious first. I'm fine with skynx or lunaticman as the 2nd. Input on the 2nd wagon would be lovely. Koshi is not allowed to be 2nd wagon since he's holding his double lynch hostage. How are you completely buying this? | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I remember reading something about you saying it was either Koshi or me that was mafia. Can you go into why? Erm, did I? Quote it up and I'll be glad to reply tot that. | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I presume this means you're scumreading me? Read EoN1, I defended you vs. HF. I said his read is solid, yes, but if you step up D2, it's baseless. I'm currently catching up as you can see. | ||
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Hmmm Ill stay on Vivax. I have changed my night actiom from attacking koshi to something else. Hes not the lynch today so he might prove the double lynch. If he claims he got rolebloxked, kill at night. No point in further guessing games. If hes town which is absolutely unlikeöy, its his own fault for his horrendous play thus far. Skynx would be a good wagon. Alsp tje HamazuraXTakitsubo guy. Will keep an eye on tje thread but im at work so dont expect much, instead ping me directly with questions if there are any. I like that artanis is doing stuff outside of the wagons, given we do not have anyone defending anyone besifes hinself i get really paranoid by now. Sl has a good point with locating scum within the actice players, i need to look at those. Tubesock eg is a guy that i dont remember for anything particular - and tbh im still wondering why NM as replacement was instakilled. We should pay some attention to his reads. | ||
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On October 24 2016 20:30 Koshi wrote: ^ Another ******* that wants me to proof myself but votes Vivax. Do I need to copy paste my role PM for you people to grasp how it works or? I am not available on deadline. I will not risk that Vivax does not get lynched in case you lied. You claim a thing and are mad at town? Really? You didnt do jack shit D1/N1. Even if you are indeed town, you screwed up way too bad to not get killed at this point. | ||
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Really, Koshi. Stop raging, stop claiming, all is said and done. Calm down, then start to work. Read people outside of Vivax. Make suggestions for your second wagon. Or, keep raging and yeah, nothing will change. | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: I cannot proof I am town unless you make 2 wagons? How hard is this too graps? Hey Koshi we will lynch you when you don't kill the guy with a shitton of votes. But spoiler, we won't give a second guy a shitton of votes. Hey Koshi no second wagon is forming and if you want one,then fucking make a solid case. Scumfuck,you make me pissed by now. Back to ignore. My advicse still stands. | ||
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On October 24 2016 22:35 Vivax wrote: The good: 1. Hopeless. He played and actually cared. I've never seen him care this much I believe. Last time he was mafia he behaved and talked like a guy standing dazed in front of a naked specimen of his preferred gender, then fell unconscious and nobody ever heard of him since. He is completely incapable of playing as mafia. 2. Iamperfection. I honestly have no clue how he plays mafia. But I somehow always know when he's town. Maybe he just always rolls town, maybe I'm just this good. It certainly has nothing to do with the way he plays. But he's town. He's obnoxious towards suspicious people and frantically searches remote places for mafia. He has this righteous, condescending tone in his posts. 3. Artanis. He's serious. There's no playing around. It's the empire mafia criterion. He'll just fool around and joke rather than get to work this blatantly as mafia. So I'm doing this call just based on that. I don't think I've seen a single gif? Maybe he's ill, most certainly he's being a good townie boy his parents would be proud of. 4. Dandel. Don't ask me why, I don't think I have a logical reason to TR him it's just what feels right. 5. Exo. I liked how he went after Wave D1 with the bar example and shit. Very aggressive overall but I think that in that too calm town atmosphere he did something scum wouldn't have done: Stir things up. The ugly: 1. Bill Murray. This guy can just do what the hell he wants cause nobody ever had any clue how to read him in the history of mafia. He actually can have decent reads as town and be scary as mafia. Just the type of guy you will get insane over at a situation like lylo. Good luck boys. Kurumi: Not that ugly actually. His lists had a meaning, and he bothered to start communicating normally afterwards. He doesn't feel the urge to do that as mafia. If anything, when he's mafia he just trolls, posts gibberish and doesn't give a damn about your opinion. On the good side of ugly. KamasutraXTacoshopu: Dunno, really. Focuses on superficial things like a newbie would do (shitposters=mafia, helpful=town). Hasn't yet mastered the art of saying "I am". He's the descartian nightmare, but it seems like it's a sentient being. I'm going with town for his focus on superficial things however, seems natural enough. LordTolkien: It bothers me that his initial list are people he would lynch just cause he doesn't know them. If he knows how to read the other people, he should certainly be able to find scum among them? Seems like a minor rebuttal, but is telling for laziness and has shown that he rather would make a very shallow list. Wanting to lynch kurumi for the emotes is also very superficial. They actually meant something if he bothered to figure it out. Later on he plays some thread police, posts some stuff related to game mechanics, talks about germans in lederhosen, puts up the lynch mob face for Koshi. Alrighty, if he's mafia he's doing splendidly. I can't tell for sure yet. Acrofales: He's just here cause he's ugly. I'm firmly convinced he is. Actually I just don't want to read his posts too much unfounded hate, this guy is just a bully and bullies don't deserve attention, just basic attacks. Koshi: Felt really underwhelming at the beginning. Lacked too much third person and typical strongheadedness. But I have seen Koshi being like this as town, actually. He's just not very consistent in his tone, and just activity wise I think he looks townie enough. Plus if his claim is real, a double lynch doesn't seem like a mafia ability. So I'm leaving him kinda in between. I feel like he's becoming more townie as time passes. I just wonder why he's not on a crusade against me yet. meh. Glowingbear: Slight townlean. Why? Cause he is scared when he's mafia. He isn't scared here. He's acting like some innocent teddy bear everyone's supposed to leave alone. Zero aggression shown towards his attackers. When Palmar got him on the hook D1 in another game he lashed back out towards him, he didn't make puppy eyes and ask "why" like here. For the time being he's staying in the ugly though. Cause he can do better than that. The bad: Tubesock: Goes on a rant about me being mafia and how we will have this for days and days. Quotes a game where I have like 7 posts as example. He realizes it's not really how I always play scum after ptmc points it out but doesn't really pursue that thought further. It's obvious he is just happy with having a reason to scumread me even after having it invalidated, ends up voting TickTock with me after having that train of thought. I believe he should have been much more determined to keep his vote on me after what he said. Koroko: Has three posts. Claims third party, wins by creating fake accounts. Sounds too good to be true. Not necessarily mafia but definitely a something from outside this world that needs cleansing. As for SL, ptmc, WoS, Skynx, ritoky. I don't wanna put them into these categories Off the top of my head, mafia WoS tends to longish posts. SL just loses the grip on the game and misunderstands stuff, ritoky acts smug and spams stuff for fun a bit like scumtanis. I cba to check for those tendencies on these guys I'd like to have them around a bit longer anyway. From a glance ptmc seemed townie at first but he has kinda dropped off and his list seemed a bit superficial. Skynx on the other hand was brutally honest about how he forgot about something and couldn't be arsed to go over it again in his list thingy and that earns him town points in my book. Either way, I'd lynch tube and the 3p claim next. What about me | ||
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I don't feel good at believing Koshi's claim. I want to explain my stance on this a bit more before I depart and I ask you guys to carefully consider if you are believing the claim or not. Contra 1. It was an easy claim. There is no way that a role would counterclaim what Koshi claimed. Given it's a themed game and we do not know which roles are in besides the flipped ones and our own roles, there is absolutely no problem for Koshi to fake claim a double lynch ability. 2. Day and Night 1 Day 1 and Night 1 Koshi was absolutely scummy. At no point he tried to solve the game. His replies under pressure were full of bragging, derailing, and not even close to a serious discussion that would even remotely imply he is town. He has been scumread all game and the reasons for that read are absolutely solid. Besides the claim, there absolutely no reason to not scumread Koshi. His "cases" he put up are salty, WIFOM and bad. There is absolutely no effort that could be interpreted as townie besides the claim. 3. Ability volatility From what Koshi said, he has an ability to make two lynches flip within one day. First of all, reading my own abilities (which fully resolve around HP mechanics and in no way about anything else, yes, that's as close to a VT claim as it gets in this game) makes me feel really uncertain about that kind of ability being town-aligned. Worst case: two town wagons flip. Medium case: one scum, one town flips. Best case: two scums flip. I'm not good at math but given the likely scum to town distribution, I think the worst case is way more likely than the best case. This ability will become good in certain scenarios, agreed - but it is such a potential game changer that I don't think hosts will put this ability into the game. Although, if I'm really honest here, if that ability is indeed part of the game then it will most likely be a town ability as scum would be safe and sound to use that ability. 4. Koshi is not today's lynch Which makes his rage hard to believe. Koshi should know he's not going to be the lynch today. He should know that we're all rather calm players that are willing to reconsider if we are given solid stuff to work with. He's however not even trying to go down the reasonable road, although I explicitely offered him the opportunity to do so by asking him to calm down, leave the thread, return with solid reads, analysis and simply more town behaviour. Keep in mind he still hasn't dropped a solid read list that we could work with if he flipped town at any point. There's literally nothing of value in Koshi's filter that we could work with if he flipped town. A worthless Lunatic push is the best he could do thus far. Pro 1. Most likely, town ability As written above, I do not think that hosts would put that ability in the hands of mafia. That would be really imbalanced, basically allowing mafia to mislynch two people at once. Given we all have attacks and are likely to kill each other that would be really, really tough to deal with. 2. Koshi's rage over the day Although I talked about that at the contra section already, I think there's also the possibility that this is town rage and genuine. Early Koshi felt lackluster, not really caring, and I thought this is highly indicative of his scum style of the previous 3 games of which 2 I hosted. In none of those games I have seen Koshi rage that hard when being under pressure. On the other hand, in none of these games was Koshi as much under pressure as he is right now. Those are the cons and pros that I can come up with at this point. For my judgement, this is not enough pro to believe the claim. This is why I would like you guys to only start a second wagon that was started by a more or less townread person. I would suggest taco bell hamazuro guy to be the second wagon. Yes, there's a chance he might be replaced or modkilled - but as ritoky said, we can't be sure of that. We should definitely go for the people that are not playing the game at all, as others already mentioned, and I think that guy is a good target. Why not Lunatic or Skynx? Lunatic is the easy target. He's doing not much. But the thing is that Koshi has been pushing him a lot. So either it's bussing, starting from D1, or scum!Koshi trying to direct one more mislynch, or town!Koshi vs. whatever Lunatic, I don't care. Either way, we should re-evaluate Lunatic once Koshi has flipped. Koshi will flip (or not) depending on what's happening at this very deadline. This is why I wouldn't choose Lunatic for today's second wagon, although he's worth a lynch, vig shot, or simply stacked damage after all. Skynx on the other hand is actually every now and again trying to play the game. I have him as a scumread but I really need to reevaluate his filter, I haven't done so yet, so a full day cycle is currently missing in my read of Skynx. Also, note how Koshi voted him, then switched to Lunatic. (Also, look at Artanis, who was scumread by HF (confirmed town) and voted with Koshi on Skynx and on Lunatic, which can be coincidence, but it worries me. Talking more about Artanis: his thoughts over the day feel reasonable and I tend to actually like what he's writing. However his push on GlowingBear in the context of Lunatic, Skynx, and Vivax being the lynches today, it feels empty. Pressuring GB when town is on other persons with a single vote won't work. It's also very safe to go for GB as scum since GB is not playing the game, low hanging fruits and shit, easy target to appear pushy but stay under the radar). Also, still, someone should evaluate NocturneMage's filter! 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This is why I would like you guys to only start a second wagon that was started by a more or less townread person. EBWOP This is why I would like you guys to only follow a second wagon that was started by a more or less townread person. | ||
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On October 25 2016 00:27 Kurumi wrote: Nothing is wrong in his filter + context - he has not spammed the thread, did not bicker with anyone, he left riff-raff where it was and reads Lord Tolkien Mafia for all the correct reasons. If Vivax is town, he shouldn't have signed up for this game tbh. I see how this scenario (among with other players not playing the game) is slightly affecting my motivation to play and I will definitely be harsher as a host in the future. | ||
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On October 25 2016 00:40 Koshi wrote: Ok guys. Let's say I need to afk the next 5 hours and need to send in now. I need to know there will be at least 6-7 votes on Lunatic today. He also needs to be the second lynch. Well, he doesn't have to be but if he is main lynch it is overkill obviously. If he doesn't have the votes he wont get 1-shotted. Put it on Hamazuro guy. | ||
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I have unvoted. Thing is I can do the 7th vote on Lunatic and we'll see if Koshi can make his action. | ||
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On October 25 2016 05:46 Acrofales wrote: We need more votes on Vivax to be safe. I really want him deddddddd. Yeah. Exactly my fear. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:33 Koshi wrote: SAYS THE GUY WHO PROBABLY KILLED ME FOR 30 HP ALREADY You mean, I should stop? | ||
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I wasn't the only one to attack you then, assuming other towns did too. | ||
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I expect lots of flips this night. I really want town to fucking attack Skynx, Lunatic, Vivax with everything that's there. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote: How can I know there is a role that removes all votes in the game? Like... Dafuq. More important, how can you exactly know that this role removes all votes and doesn't just say "votes don't count, nolynch it is"? | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:43 Koshi wrote: ..................................... It was a wild guess. I don't know why the fuck. But I know night came early and there were no votes. That I know. Thing is - the nolynch was scum indicated, right? At least we assume so. So if scum can indeed enforce a no-lynch, it would be the balance counter to the double lynch ability that Koshi claims to have. I'm inclined to believe that Koshi is town. Only other possibility would be that he made up the "I can lynch twice" thing completely from scratch - OR he can do it, and it's a scum ability. If he made it up - okay, you got me, wp. If he's scum with that ability - imbalanced af game. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:45 Lord Tolkien wrote: I mean, SL attacked WoS D1 with me so it'd be super ballsy of him to do so. Good point. Still, the fact that SL attacked WoS and "abilitied" him doesn't make WoS town. But it makes WoS likely town, especially with the claim he absolutely did not have to do. Let me update my reads. beentheredonethat Koshi sicklucker Vivax Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo 1 Bill Murray 2 Artanis[Xp] 4 iamperfection 5 Skynx 9 Dandel Ion 10 Koroko 11 ExO_ 12 Acrofales 13 Kurumi 14 Hopeless1der 15 ritoky 17 Tubesock 19 GlowingBear 20 Lord Tolkien 21 sicklucker 22 WaveofShadow Yes, some townreads moved off my town list. | ||
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Good point. Still, the fact that SL attacked WoS and "abilitied" him doesn't make WoS town. But it makes Sicklucker likely town, especially with the claim he absolutely did not have to do. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:51 sicklucker wrote: So theres two ways to go with gb since hes got so low hp hes always going to die this game scum or town. ( i can detect his hp) We can waste more kp on him or we can ask him to spam the thread so he dies from my ability :D . If hes town he should probably kill himself because if he does not hes wasting more town kp apparently You can only do one action per phase. So you claim you checked his HP, did your thing, then did your thing to WoS? | ||
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we're locked on lunatic, vivax, skynx, koshi and we cannot get one of them flip. Considering Koshi is town, yeah, good thing but what the actual fuck! I'm frustrated, I'm out now, and I feel really pissed that such an ability is in. | ||
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On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote: Well. I did not do 5 damage to you. My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower? So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something. How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together? I have a basic attack of 4. I have a powerful attack ability and I have attacked you three times now. I claimed that. I said I townread you because I wasn't roleblocked at all and I bought your rage. Mafia wouldn't do a no-lynch if Koshi hadn't claimed his ability. That means Vivax and Lunatic are scum. Else it would make NO sense for scum to save Vivax as he will be lynched/shot anyways. Either Vivax and Lunatic are scum and the no-lynch should make us kill Koshi OR Koshi is scum, Vivax/Luna alignment is not sure and Scum wasted a no-lynch to save what, an inactive Scum!Vivax? I don't think so. To me, Luna and Vivax are as close to confirmed scum as it gets, and Koshi is as close to confirmed town as it gets. Sicklucker's play doesn't make sense as scum IMHO. We should attack the fuck out of Vivax and Luna and I really want town to coordinate attacks. I will attack Lunatic. Sicklucker, ptmc, WoS, please do so, too, with the maximum attack damage you have. Dandel, iamp, Acro, please attack Vivax. Artanis, you too. At this point, I am considering Ritoky to be scum. Not enough activity, and he's popping up every now and then to not fall into afk category, and his posts imply that he's actively reading the thread. | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:43 Koshi wrote: @btdt, did you have anything to do with this? Holy. Read. I have attacked you which is probably why I was damaged. So you have a passive that hurts attackers? | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:44 Acrofales wrote: Talk me through it. Why don't you think koshi's ability IS the no-lynch? Because there is no value for him to use it and literally claim that he has a double lynch. A no-lynch when we have potentially two wagons that are most likely going to flip scum? No! I cannot believe that. | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:12 beentheredonethat wrote: I have a basic attack of 4. I have a powerful attack ability and I have attacked you three times now. I claimed that. I said I townread you because I wasn't roleblocked at all and I bought your rage. Mafia wouldn't do a no-lynch if Koshi hadn't claimed his ability. That means Vivax and Lunatic are scum. Else it would make NO sense for scum to save Vivax as he will be lynched/shot anyways. Either Vivax and Lunatic are scum and the no-lynch should make us kill Koshi OR Koshi is scum, Vivax/Luna alignment is not sure and Scum wasted a no-lynch to save what, an inactive Scum!Vivax? I don't think so. To me, Luna and Vivax are as close to confirmed scum as it gets, and Koshi is as close to confirmed town as it gets. Sicklucker's play doesn't make sense as scum IMHO. We should attack the fuck out of Vivax and Luna and I really want town to coordinate attacks. I will attack Lunatic. Sicklucker, ptmc, WoS, please do so, too, with the maximum attack damage you have. Dandel, iamp, Acro, please attack Vivax. Artanis, you too. At this point, I am considering Ritoky to be scum. Not enough activity, and he's popping up every now and then to not fall into afk category, and his posts imply that he's actively reading the thread. Guys, do this. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:35 Koshi wrote: Well I figured that out. Was fun. imo kill Vivax/Luna first. Afterthat ritoky/sicklucker/skynx/Acro. the ones who don't die and don't have damage done to them. If sicklucker is town, he should check heroes for being full hp. Endgame it is up to people to find the mafia in LT/Hama and others. If WoS is mafia it is perfect for him that he can't post. I almost can't believe it lasts till forever. sicklucker probably knows it only last for 1 phase or so. Rupture isn't forever. I think sicklucker is town. What do you think about my reasoning, 1-3 pages ago? | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I'm confused. You think I hit you, am lying about it but also think I'm town? wut? Redirects are possible. However why do you think Koshi townreads you? | ||
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Koshi Lunatic Skynx He says one mafia hides in the following players: Exo BM Tolkien Hamazura Kurumi GlowingBear 80% of his filter was about Koshi. I get paranoid about my townread again. If Koshi doesn't die this night AND if we get Vivax/Lunatic dead, I think Koshi is actually a good flip to gain information. I have reasons to townread Koshi and I stated them. On the other hand, the whole sudden passive thing is just matching too good. Also, a lot of people received 5 damage as others said. I'm really torn here. I think a Koshi flip is a good thing at this point, simply for "let's be sure" reasons. On the other hand, I don't want to waste his ability as I feel like a double lynch (town) is legit balance wise vs. a no lynch enforcement (scum). In a perfect world, we get Lunativ and Vivax killed this night, followed up by most likely losing town!Koshi. This would actually be great. To be honest, Koshi's passive is fun, but mine is even funnier. Attackers will have fun if they attack me this night . | ||
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Acro, ptmc, as you stay on a hard Koshi scumread, please elaborate in a big case post which we can evaluate. I am not able to put the work in right now as I'm on lunch break at work - and I'd really like to see where exactly there is inconsistency. Koshi, please put in the work and summarize in a clean and readable and insult-free post what exactly your passive is, who attacked you and claimed to have received 5 damage, and let me know why you were so shit D1. Please, Koshi, if you're town, don't refuse this. | ||
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This guy comes on my scum pile. Also, Skynx, as he dropped again under the radar and I cannot tell if he actually did something this game or not. He's absolutely unmemorable and I don't think that this is good. Dandel posted in a not-really-contributing way D2. Was happy with having voted and did some banter, including gems like "u fokkin wat mate??". Then, some sicklucker stuff, mainly about having two actions. Which actually is an interesting point. I can do one action per cycle. Sicklucker claims to have done two in one cycle? The more I hear about this guy the more I want him dead. He's just creating more and more confusion (nevertheless I think he's actually town). Well, Dandel... yeah, no, that's not enough for a town read. Bill Murray at this point goes on the "lynch/kill idc" pile, i.e. scum. Self-explanatory. Not participating at all, he should be modkilled as soon as possible. It's absolutely frustrating to have such players in a game where you put effort in. I still haven't got a final judgement of Artanis. It's interesting that he seemingly was fine with believing Koshi's claim D2 (telling me even that Koshi's rage is town indicative for him) yet he's neither hard defending nor is he pushing him. He's wishywashy at best at this point. Also, he's hard townreading ritoky for meta reasons which I absolutely do not like. Tubesock and Acro are in his "people-that-are-present-and-kinda-doing-things range" which he claims to be a town lean - and with that, he never looked into them again. Hard scumread on Vivax, soft defense on Lunatic, meta reasons again. Gets called out for that Lunatic meta read tho and gets proven wrong. Decides to townread Acro, puts Wave into the center of attention and townreads him, townreads Sicklucker, too. After all, his filter has a lot of reads which are kinda ballsy and not exactly thread-sentimenty. Artanis comes on the town pile now. ExO_ completely disappeared. Four pages of filter. Lynch or kill, who cares. There we go, scum list. Acro stays town. Another update: beentheredonethat Koshi sicklucker Artanis Acrofales Vivax Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo ritoky Skynx Bill Murray ExO_ 4 iamperfection 9 Dandel Ion 10 Koroko 13 Kurumi 14 Hopeless1der 17 Tubesock 19 GlowingBear 20 Lord Tolkien 22 WaveofShadow So far, so good. Lunch break over. Will look into the guys I haven't a clear read on. | ||
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On October 25 2016 20:03 ptmc wrote: I'm not scum-reading Koshi? I think he is more likely town but about to die soon. I also really dislike either acros posts or his reading comprehension. Bad reading comprehension on my part. I read "There's literally no consistency in it". But you wrote "There's literally no inconsistency in it". My bad. | ||
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On October 25 2016 20:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: Four possible explanations. I'm spoilering this because it's some people think speculating NK motives is scummy and I CANT TRY AND LOOK LIKE SCUM NOW CAN I. + Show Spoiler + 1) It's either they rolechecked him D1 (would make sense to rolecheck players-about-to-be-replaced D1 sorta), found out he's rolecop, and killed him 2) A good set of reads or something in his brief burst of N1 posts. 3) "player meta", either he's an infamously good town player or someone who's familiar with wanted him dead/thought he was a threat (former based on super quick game history suggests no [4 newbie+1 non-newbie mafia games], latter has GlowingBear [2 games and 2 coach], Artanis [2 co-host, 2 coach], ritoky [1 game] with prior history) 4) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ throw off town? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Unless we get at least one or two flips off on his scum reads it's really hard to say and I vote we don't try thinking about it too hard unless you want to go down the rabbit hole. Can't tell what I do not like about this post besides "everything" somehow. I can't get a grap on why exactly it's bad but I feel like it's bad. | ||
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On October 25 2016 20:03 Acrofales wrote: It's mod wifom. But I think it's probably true. And in response: Usually in themed games, this type of warnings and restrictions are given so that town can't use ability claims to break the game. It was triggered by ptmc, and thus ptmc is most likely town. Okay. | ||
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On October 25 2016 20:20 ptmc wrote: The Acro/Koshi interaction doesn't feel weird to you? I can not see where Acro's posts are coming from, except trying to paint Koshi in a bad light. It struck out to me as tunneling town acro but not scummy tbh. | ||
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On October 25 2016 20:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: @btdt I did not townread Acro or Tube for being in the "people-that-are-present-and-kinda-doing-things range". In fact, that was a reason to scumread them, but then I went into their filters and I didn't find them that scummy after all. I also think Koshi is still solidly town but he's doing weird shit. My read on Ritoky isn't quite that strong. I still think he's town but I wouldn't lose any sleep over him dying. Also, why are you putting SL up as townread whilst putting Dandel as null? What makes you more town on him than Dandel? Erm, you say literally that you town lean those Acro/Tube for exactly that reason. However later, you lool into Acro and say hes town. I think it's semantics here and we're talking about the same thing. In the end,youre town to me. SL: i explained my read some pages ago,quotinc on mobile is hard,please check fpr yourseöf. Dandel is not town to me. Pushed him d1 and hes being active but not contributing. I wouldn't say hes more or less town than sl as i am reading sl town for very specufic reason. Without that reason hed be black maybe even red in my list. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On October 25 2016 20:38 Acrofales wrote: You got me. The only reason I try to prick through bullshit is to make the bullshitter look bad. Or maybe I just couldn't understand Koshi's bizarro claim based on hot air and "winter wyvern" speculation. Guys, I took 7 damage on D1, and 10 damage on N1. The only way this makes sense is if I got hit by ExO_ the bristleback. THIS is the level of claim Koshi was making. Except it went further. When pointed to the fact that WW ulti working the way he had invented would hit Artanis and Dandel, not Artanis and Iamp, he assumed that there are special mechanics that apply to this specific ability. It is 9/11 truther level bullshit: Step 1: invent theory to explain X Step 2: find facts that match theory. ignore facts that don't match theory Step 3: ignore all other explanations Step 4 invent further nonsense to cover faults of theory in step 1. Does this make Koshi scum? No. This is just dumb. Koshi is scum for a whole host of other reasons independent of this nonsense. Will explain why later. It's lunchtime now. Exo hitting you worries me even further. | ||
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Potential scum, definitely. He didn't improve at all. | ||
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Final Vote Count - Day 1 Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Koshi (4): Lunaticman, Lunaticman (1): Vivax (2): Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow WaveofShadow (1): Dandel Ion (1): ritoky (1): Holyflare (1): HamazuraXTakitsubo (0): Rels (0): ptmc (0): Skynx (0): iamperfection (0): beentheredonethat (0): Hopeless1der (0): ExO_ (0): Kurumi (0): Not voted (2): Rels, Eversince, It looks like Tictock is about to be owned. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. With 0 votes removed: Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Koshi (4): Lunaticman, Lunaticman (1): Vivax (2): Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow WaveofShadow (1): Dandel Ion (1): ritoky (1): [/blue] The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.[/b] | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:06 Acrofales wrote: Read the thread back to front, you derpface. Your thoughts aren't original, because people have already pointed this out... So many people on 5 damage. Koshi, for how much exactly were you attacked? | ||
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That makes a total of 7 votes that are outside of the main wagons, not committing to anything. People voting outside of wagons are: Hamazura, Hopeless1der, Acrofales, Kurumi, WaveOfShadow, ptmc, ExO_, Glowingbear. The thing is that we have literally 1, and only one confirmed town on the Tictock wagon. The other kill was a replacement that did not vote. ptmc, why did you stay on WoS during D1? Kurumi, WoS, why did you vote Lord Tolkien at that time? ExO_, why did you vote Dandel and rode it through although it was not happening? GB, why ritoky? Why not a main wagon? HamazuraXTakitsubo, why did you leave your vote on Lunaticman? Sadly, only ptmc and maybe WoS will probably answer those questions as the rest is afk, not interested, or scum. | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:12 beentheredonethat wrote: I have a basic attack of 4. I have a powerful attack ability and I have attacked you three times now. I claimed that. I said I townread you because I wasn't roleblocked at all and I bought your rage. Mafia wouldn't do a no-lynch if Koshi hadn't claimed his ability. That means Vivax and Lunatic are scum. Else it would make NO sense for scum to save Vivax as he will be lynched/shot anyways. Either Vivax and Lunatic are scum and the no-lynch should make us kill Koshi OR Koshi is scum, Vivax/Luna alignment is not sure and Scum wasted a no-lynch to save what, an inactive Scum!Vivax? I don't think so. To me, Luna and Vivax are as close to confirmed scum as it gets, and Koshi is as close to confirmed town as it gets. Sicklucker's play doesn't make sense as scum IMHO. We should attack the fuck out of Vivax and Luna and I really want town to coordinate attacks. I will attack Lunatic. Sicklucker, ptmc, WoS, please do so, too, with the maximum attack damage you have. Dandel, iamp, Acro, please attack Vivax. Artanis, you too. At this point, I am considering Ritoky to be scum. Not enough activity, and he's popping up every now and then to not fall into afk category, and his posts imply that he's actively reading the thread. We should attack the fuck out of Vivax and Luna and I really want town to coordinate attacks. I will attack Lunatic. Sicklucker, ptmc, WoS, please do so, too, with the maximum attack damage you have. Dandel, iamp, Acro, please attack Vivax. Artanis, you too. At this point, I am considering Ritoky to be scum. Not enough activity, and he's popping up every now and then to not fall into afk category, and his posts imply that he's actively reading the thread. Putting this out here again. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:16 sicklucker wrote: That ticktock lynch was pretty bad. even if koshi was town we could have lynched him and all this bs wouldnt have happened :D Yep. D1 Koshi hurt us really bad. | ||
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So, first of all, thank you to all the hosts. Thanks for the huge amount of preparation, coordination, maintaining a flawlessly run game, answering lots and lots of questions (even dumb ones), and for whatever else you were doing to make this game a great experience for all of us. Thanks to all the players for not killing me for basically following the "how to play mafia"-book. I had to leave the game rather early due to me being killed (shame on you, scum) and I stopped reading afterwards - playing the game that actively as I did was quite exhaustive. I had great fun and it's a "fuck yeah" feeling to see town (us!) win - kudos to ritoky for that clutch, and wp to the scum team, especially Koshi - I started townreading you which was terrible! | ||
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btdt acro iamp WoS artanis Question is: who should go first?" <3 scum qt | ||
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