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And I don't want to read And I don't have time And I don't want to risk my win rate as mafia | ||
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On October 18 2016 16:14 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On October 18 2016 16:06 GlowingBear wrote: I'd play but I don't want to put effort And I don't want to read And I don't have time And I don't want to risk my win rate as mafia So same as me. I'm /in, why aren't you? Okay! /in And I don't care if I'm out of the deadline. Just add me. | ||
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On October 19 2016 09:05 Lord Tolkien wrote: alright onegu since wave asked /in HELLOOOOOOOOO I MISSED YOU! | ||
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On October 20 2016 08:05 iamperfection wrote: what do you think growingbear lots of coordination or is it a bad idea? Oh I just wanted to say I'm town, then I peaced out to do something productive I'm not a healer, though. Probably can't coordinate skills with you :/ | ||
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On October 21 2016 01:53 Acrofales wrote: List post! Heading for modkill: Rels Vivax (policy lynch anyway!) Eversince Not liking: Skynx (overaggressive and useless) Tubesock (sorta present, but useless lurking) ptmc (see above) Glowingbear (useless) Koshi (scumvibe from posts #429, #541. Oddly defensive and useless about his reads in other posts) On the fence: WoS (playing weird, no substance, but in the spotlight) iamperfection (fishing, improved later) btdt (too much thread police, do like some of his posts) Town: DI (is reading filters and having astute observations about them) ExO_ (tryhard newbie town) Kurumi (get a good vibe) No opinion so far: the rest You can't dislike me for being useless. You said I should sign in nonetheless | ||
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You have no scum read, just a bunch of "not liking", most of them for being useless or lurker, which doesn't mean it is scummy Then you have a lot of people you don't have opinion on, which are lurkers and/or useless people. How do you trace the line between the lirkers you dislike and the lurkers you don't have opinion on? | ||
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I think Acrofales might be town, I liked his answer to me. But sometimes I don't like his answer because it felt evasive, then I think he is mafia. But that answer was genuine so he might be town Meh | ||
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On October 21 2016 14:20 GlowingBear wrote: You know me Tolkien Huge fan over here. I've read all of your books. Love them. My preferred is the prisoner of azkaban | ||
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On October 21 2016 14:24 Tubesock wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2016 14:18 GlowingBear wrote: Btw I've just voted ritiky but it's more of a placeholder than anything else Why Ritoky? Because of what Ive just said about HF and ritoky | ||
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On October 21 2016 14:30 sicklucker wrote: im not your enemy Uhm Weirdest answer ever | ||
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On October 21 2016 14:39 Tubesock wrote: GB, I get using hte meta bit, but don't you think it's probably obsolete now? Is there anything else Ritoky is doing that you think is scummy? I think Ritoky's post below explains the change well. Show nested quote + On October 21 2016 06:17 ritoky wrote: On October 21 2016 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 21 2016 05:49 Holyflare wrote: On October 21 2016 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 21 2016 05:36 Holyflare wrote: On October 21 2016 05:19 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 21 2016 05:14 ritoky wrote: On October 21 2016 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Part of me wishes I had enough time to attempt to care more about this game and attempt to take control of things because there is zero direction in this thread And then I remember I've played like 2 games in 2 years for very good reason Carry on everybody If you had the will to direct the thread to look more closely at say....4 people, at a glance who would those 4 people be? Hey HF, is this a scum post? I don't indulge crappy games. Ritoky drops townreads has no real drive to lynch people properly, hedges at every point and asks questions with no real follow up and doesn't seemingly care about answers. No gifs still either. Lynch plz. And yet a call to engage a seemingly disinterested waveofshadow to pay attention to the game? Fuck your meta right in the ear, good sir, because for now I'm not voting him. Will you be around later? Like...3h ish? I want to engage with someone fun. It's 90% in game posts wtf are you talking about? Aren't you calling him scum based on how different from usual his gifs and tryahrdiness and shit is? Or am I misunderstanding? Also Kurumi why am I a cow now and not a king? Can I be the cow king? Mooooooooooo He's saying I am different and not having fun, which historically indicates I am mafia. Which is a fine enough read, but wrong. Mostly because I haven't played in over 6 months so I assume I am different, and I am not particularly enjoying playing. What do you think of Tictock, Stynx, Rels, or Haz Taco Bell? That's why I said it's more of a voteholder than anything else | ||
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On October 21 2016 14:51 WaveofShadow wrote: Two things: Regardless of who came up with it, I like the KP stacking idea. It could very well be useful for scum but it's going to be useful for us too so I'm not looking too deeply at the fact that you came up with it SL, sorry. But you shouldn't be too worried anyway, which leads me to my second point: Why are none of you voting for mtpc right now? Seems like pretty clear scum atm. If you guys want to shoot someone, shoot into my list. I'll even put an order of priority: Lord Tolk >> Glowingbear >> sicklucker SL maybe you come off the list later today. We'll see what chhhhhappens Why do you want to shoot me? | ||
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On October 21 2016 15:53 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2016 14:18 GlowingBear wrote: Btw I've just voted ritiky but it's more of a placeholder than anything else This heavily reminds me of game of thrones. "I think this guy is pretty scummy, someone give me a chance to get off him." Mafia-y Unflipped association | ||
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On October 21 2016 17:42 ritoky wrote: I think the 2 best candidates for lynch who are outside of policy-sub/modkill range are GB and Lunatic. Lunatic's case is pretty simple: I don't think he believes or cares very much about his reads. He has said Koshi is mafia since his first post for essentially being Koshi. But he hasn't made any real substantive push to try and convince people to get on board his Koshi lynch, he has just kind of left it sitting there passively. I don't even know the details of why he believes Koshi is mafia, but he says it so much in his filter that you would think he is tunneled. But then you read his filter and he doesn't seem tunneled at all, he isn't working to get people on board his target; I think he doesn't particularly care to lynch scum. There's something funky with his HF read, primarily with its basis being garbage. He town reads him, then flips basically because of omgus, then apparently wants to lynch HF but treats him like Koshi. HF not pushing back to the point of trying to lynch Luna over this hot trash read gives me some pause, but at least he called him likely mafia. GB is a variety of things. He is overall underwhelming thus far. He didn't show any excitement I was in the game. I don't see any of his spastic town/trying to make a play town tendencies. His just agree with HF rather than try to engage him to get a read seems off and like it may come from a place of extra information. He stated a placeholder vote, when I feel like town GB would more likely use his vote as a weapon to gauge reaction rather than literally tell me he wasn't serious about his vote. OMGUS | ||
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On October 21 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2016 14:13 GlowingBear wrote: I think Holyflare might be town because he thought ritoky might be mafia for the forced funny gifs I think Acrofales might be town, I liked his answer to me. But sometimes I don't like his answer because it felt evasive, then I think he is mafia. But that answer was genuine so he might be town Meh Holy shit GB playing the game? Err I mean, glad to see ya GB ^.^ + Show Spoiler + I kinda hate that I have a really bad townread on you already <3<3<3 | ||
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On October 21 2016 20:00 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2016 11:49 iamperfection wrote: Kurumi- i dont understand this kid. I dont like the way he plays i dont like his list i dont like the self post for no reason i dont even like his name. but on reread seems to be confident he wont be lynched post 1009 he might be trying to figure things out i guess. ill put as null and unvote. Noithing he does makes sense to me though. Skynx- scum read. Posting stuff but does not seem in my view to be trying to kill mafia. Example post 868 throws some shade on me but does nothing with it. ExO_- something about his tone just seems unatural to me. Post 368 for example does come across to me as genuine. Literally the only thing in his filter talks about wos and could be that thing were scum catch a mistake by town try to make it scummy and focus on it entirely. Post 420 is bad after some time brings nothing to the table and then later on just talks about wave again. votes for dandel but dosent seem interested in actually killing and talks about wave more not like the content of the list or just that he posts lists? i should read skynx filter im just writing this to remind myself agreed on exo, hes like a btnd without the redeeming activity, but at least with less spamming. 'go down list of scumtells, push those scumtells, ignore everything else' bookkeepers, man Show nested quote + On October 21 2016 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Also iamp you are like...opposite to me on so many reads. I don't know why you think any of BTDT's activity makes him top town. He is literally playing the easiest way for a newer player to do so as either alignment, and that's the way you're 'supposed to.' its the easiest way, but it's still more effort than most noob scums put into scummering. i'm kinda just sitting here waiting if he can keep it up. if he drops we can revisit him but until then im not really concerned. just annoyed. Show nested quote + On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote: On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote: On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote: On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote: It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat. If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy. post your spreadsheet Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia. do what i did I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date. I'd be happy with lynching any of the following: Lunaticman Glowingbear Hazura Tako bell Tubesock All for being useless lurkers. Would also lynch Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure Ptmc: blending this sounds pretty good. ptmc coming in when called out, just defending himself, leaving. (sorry there was also a post purely about game mechanics) the defense itself was fine actually but i still dont like the whole package. i backed off to give him room to do his thing, and no thing was done feels bad man On October 21 2016 14:13 GlowingBear wrote: I think Holyflare might be town because he thought ritoky might be mafia for the forced funny gifs that's the part that made you feel town? uh ok.[/QUOTE] I forgot to explain that I had the same impression as him. Which means we mindmelded. That's how I had a town read on him | ||
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On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote: On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh I get it, the ninja. Yes. Well. Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any) Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff? Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why? We should sift through that. My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff. Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example. And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around? Gonna read Acro. Why do you want me dead? | ||
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On October 22 2016 11:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2016 11:00 GlowingBear wrote: On October 22 2016 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 22 2016 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote: On October 22 2016 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh I get it, the ninja. Yes. Well. Um I dunno, let's chat a while. It's how I do my best work (when I do any) Important things to look at: is there anything to be learned from EoD stuff? Who were people on, who switched to whom, when, and why? We should sift through that. My problem is that I believe koshi more town than mafia, so the wagons are meaningless to me. The EoD stuff is therefore useless for me to analyze. I dislike HF, lunatic and acro atm. I'd like to lynch Lunatic next, and I'd like to shoot acro most atm. Notwithstanding his rosh claim early on, he basically lied about his availability and showed up to complain about a) we didnt lynch vivax and b) kp speculation type stuff. Acro is at least posting readable content. I don't think it's an amazing idea to shoot into someone like that when we have Glowingbear, for example. And so what if you believe koshi is more town than mafia? Do you believe Vivax is scum? If so you should probably be interested in how his train got derailed. If you think everyone under pressure was town in some way, then maybe it's in your best interested to see who spread their votes around? Gonna read Acro. Why do you want me dead? 'Cause you're of no use to us alive? But I'm such a nice person :/ | ||
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On October 22 2016 15:57 ptmc wrote: I'll be here for a very limited time only over the whole weekend, maybe some more this evening. I attacked BM and it appears to haev gone through. Has Wave done anything towny lately? And why do we dislike HF? This guy is town | ||
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On October 22 2016 15:04 Tubesock wrote: I didn't take any damage. My attack unless modified somehow was 6 on Lord Tolkien. Anyone around? I took6 damage | ||
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On October 23 2016 00:11 NocturneMage wrote: GB when you can, mind giving us your top three scum reads? I don't have an idea where your head is at the moment. I don't have scum reads. I've barely read the thread tbh. From times to times I come to the thread and try to get impressions from posts. I am a bit suspicious of Ritoky because Ritoky knows how my mind as mafia works and this is definitely not how I play as Mafia. But I don't have stronger grounds on him. Nothing really stands out as scummy from his posts. His gifs gave me a bad impression in the beginning of the game, but that is very weak to form a scumread on someone. In the other hand, Holyflare had the same impression as me, so a mindmeld occurred. That made me think Holyflare is town. I saw a genuine post from a guy that I forgot his username. I even quoted it. And now I think iamperfection comes from a very townie POV. So there's that. | ||
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On October 23 2016 02:47 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2016 02:46 GlowingBear wrote: Also, I remember a guy that said I was playing like my most recent town meta, which made him think I was town. I don't remember if it was Tubesock or Tictock. At first it seemed genuine but now I think it reeks TMI. If it was TT then it was genuine LOL. why did you take less dmg then you were supposed to I actually took 11 I don't know how to count 😂😂😂 | ||
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On October 23 2016 23:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Dunno how many times I have to tell you I'm not scum for you to get it PM said so | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:53 iamperfection wrote: your not doing anything dear im sure several people would want to kill you Was it you again? This is important. Serious. | ||
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On October 24 2016 02:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Why is it important? Considering we all have skills, wasting our actions to simply deal damage to people we think are "useless" is scummy. If you have, I don't know, 4 skills, and you use your base damage day1 and night1, you're just trying to remove town from the game. You're not actually acting towards uncovering people's alignment. | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I don't really think Skynx is mafia anymore. ##Unvote ##Vote GlowingBear The fire rises. <3 Won't work, tho. I'm not playing because I simply don't have the time :/ | ||
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On October 24 2016 10:00 Lord Tolkien wrote: 1) I would really like it if we could find a way to confirm BTDT as town, despite his flagrant filter padding. That would certainly make this game easier. The best way would be for koshi to flip scum, but he is claiming the ability to double lynch, which basically confirms him town unless we don't get a double lynch. But then again, why the would he claim the ability to double lynch when there's obviously a mafia roleblock going around. That's actually a stupid thing to do even if you're under pressure from KP, it mildly makes sense given death will cancel the ability out (because it would probably fall under "other"), but actually. This is retarded and we likely have 0 way to verify because he'll never get it off. So Koshi, please explain your double lynch more thoroughly and tell us why you'd claim it like this or die. Today, preferably. Because it makes no sense. 2) The complete lack of defense or attempt to deflect off of Vivax at all is mildly disconcerting. Plus he's on track to be modkilled D2 so...I'm not sold on the lynch anymore. 3) I'm going to assume Dandel is Schrodinger's scummer, since I obv. cannot read him from the 1 game i played with him. 4) Is HxT just confused noob town or mafia using noob shield. idk, could just kill him today instead of Vivax because he's using noob shield excuse, and if he actually flips scum I can confirm BTDT. But then again he might also be modkilled and replaced so argh. 5) So GB. Why haven't you done anything if you aren't scum. You're always low-key when scum and super-active as town, so tell me. Why shouldn't we lynch you today? 6) Fun fact, I get unblockable/unredirectable KP with my basic attacks now. coo'. 7) The fuck is with this 3p meepo claim. It mildly makes sense, but when 1 meepo dies all meepos die. But then again they decided to classify my hero as an offlaner, lul, so. I'll rule it plausible. 8) SL claims BS. Hrm. Hmmmmmm. What town role does checking HP even serve for town as opposed to mafia, who are better able to coordinate KP to kill off town. 9) I will reverse my call to kill Kurumi for today. Mostly because I don't trust wave still and mostly because I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in re. to time constraints. Even if all he's promising to do is give fucking lists. 10) meh, I like iamp, but then again I know he's not posting mostly because we're playing DotA. I'm off to play DotA, but I'm prob going to give NocturneMage a read tonight to figure out why the fuck mafia killed him tonight. Might've been rolechecked D1 but eh, think it's probably his filter. If you skim my filter you'll notice I'm out of time Also, recent meta shows that you're wrong. I don't have meta. That's a fact | ||
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On October 24 2016 10:51 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2016 10:50 GlowingBear wrote: On October 24 2016 10:00 Lord Tolkien wrote: 1) I would really like it if we could find a way to confirm BTDT as town, despite his flagrant filter padding. That would certainly make this game easier. The best way would be for koshi to flip scum, but he is claiming the ability to double lynch, which basically confirms him town unless we don't get a double lynch. But then again, why the would he claim the ability to double lynch when there's obviously a mafia roleblock going around. That's actually a stupid thing to do even if you're under pressure from KP, it mildly makes sense given death will cancel the ability out (because it would probably fall under "other"), but actually. This is retarded and we likely have 0 way to verify because he'll never get it off. So Koshi, please explain your double lynch more thoroughly and tell us why you'd claim it like this or die. Today, preferably. Because it makes no sense. 2) The complete lack of defense or attempt to deflect off of Vivax at all is mildly disconcerting. Plus he's on track to be modkilled D2 so...I'm not sold on the lynch anymore. 3) I'm going to assume Dandel is Schrodinger's scummer, since I obv. cannot read him from the 1 game i played with him. 4) Is HxT just confused noob town or mafia using noob shield. idk, could just kill him today instead of Vivax because he's using noob shield excuse, and if he actually flips scum I can confirm BTDT. But then again he might also be modkilled and replaced so argh. 5) So GB. Why haven't you done anything if you aren't scum. You're always low-key when scum and super-active as town, so tell me. Why shouldn't we lynch you today? 6) Fun fact, I get unblockable/unredirectable KP with my basic attacks now. coo'. 7) The fuck is with this 3p meepo claim. It mildly makes sense, but when 1 meepo dies all meepos die. But then again they decided to classify my hero as an offlaner, lul, so. I'll rule it plausible. 8) SL claims BS. Hrm. Hmmmmmm. What town role does checking HP even serve for town as opposed to mafia, who are better able to coordinate KP to kill off town. 9) I will reverse my call to kill Kurumi for today. Mostly because I don't trust wave still and mostly because I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in re. to time constraints. Even if all he's promising to do is give fucking lists. 10) meh, I like iamp, but then again I know he's not posting mostly because we're playing DotA. I'm off to play DotA, but I'm prob going to give NocturneMage a read tonight to figure out why the fuck mafia killed him tonight. Might've been rolechecked D1 but eh, think it's probably his filter. If you skim my filter you'll notice I'm out of time Also, recent meta shows that you're wrong. I don't have meta. That's a fact you disappoint me Noooo Next year I'll have more time to play this game well | ||
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On October 24 2016 11:07 iamperfection wrote: wtf your actually voting me........................................................................... I think my reasoning is pretty solid | ||
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On October 24 2016 10:42 GlowingBear wrote: Considering we all have skills, wasting our actions to simply deal damage to people we think are "useless" is scummy. If you have, I don't know, 4 skills, and you use your base damage day1 and night1, you're just trying to remove town from the game. You're not actually acting towards uncovering people's alignment. That's my reasoning, sensei | ||
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On October 24 2016 11:14 Hopeless1der wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2016 11:11 GlowingBear wrote: On October 24 2016 10:42 GlowingBear wrote: On October 24 2016 02:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Why is it important? Considering we all have skills, wasting our actions to simply deal damage to people we think are "useless" is scummy. If you have, I don't know, 4 skills, and you use your base damage day1 and night1, you're just trying to remove town from the game. You're not actually acting towards uncovering people's alignment. That's my reasoning, sensei The level of nope i feel reading this is astonishing You can't undersand my reasoning? | ||
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On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote: because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game. Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead? The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you. I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that. Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already? | ||
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On October 24 2016 12:45 ritoky wrote: gb, why are you more interested in being right than convincing people why iamp is scum? Because being right means iamp is scum I don't understand your question | ||
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On October 24 2016 12:37 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2016 12:35 GlowingBear wrote: On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote: On October 24 2016 11:40 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me why I'm wrong, then because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game. Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead? The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you. I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that. Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already? oh you can use your abilities all at once that's interesting. ? You need to choose between using your skills or doing basic damage. That's how it works here | ||
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On October 24 2016 13:31 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2016 13:29 GlowingBear wrote: On October 24 2016 12:37 iamperfection wrote: On October 24 2016 12:35 GlowingBear wrote: On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote: On October 24 2016 11:40 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me why I'm wrong, then because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game. Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead? The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you. I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that. Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already? oh you can use your abilities all at once that's interesting. ? You need to choose between using your skills or doing basic damage. That's how it works here yeah but my abilities only unlock as the game progresses like the example role pm yours dont.........? I could choose between 2 skills | ||
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On October 24 2016 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok so hamazura has done legit fucking nothing. I think due to weird 'newbie-to-the-site' statements and questions he's more likely to be town but he got just be one of those tricksy little hobbitses who knows to make himself look like that. Hard to say for sure. I'd say pick him off at night or with KP but again, there are better targets I think. Overall town really needs to step it up I think or we just lose to ourselves. Of all the people consistently under suspicion: LT GB Hamazura Exo SL Tubesock Lunatic and so on and so forth If you are town,if you do not want to lose, pick up the slack and prove to us you're town. Wave, there's a huge problem in people's suspucions on me: their suspicions are based on me being useless. It is right that effort is a town trait, but lack of effort isn't, per se, a scum trait. You're basically calling scum every lurker. | ||
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I'm not being useless, I'm giving bits of information every time. I already said I think ptmc is town. I now think Artanis is town based on meta - I don't think this is the way he plays as mafia, he is not too try hard and he is not accusing people and sticking to that argument without rethinking them. His approach on me looks pretty townie IMO. I also think Koshi might be town, his posts seems very fluid with not so much thought put on them. Ritoky is a question mark. He doesn't seem very interested into solving the game. Could be mafia. Acrofales was very invested in the game, but his efforts kinda dropped. He was (or is) one of the most active players in the game, but I don't see him putting effort into actually having his targets lynched. Yes, I know Vivax is getting lynched, but I don't remember him being thoughtful about the future cycles. Iamp may be town and I can be paranoid, but I think I have a solid argument on him being town. I haven't read Skynx's post with much attention but I have a gut feeling he could be mafia. I can't explain why. It's a feeling. That's all I have for now | ||
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I dislike hopeless, would lynch in a pinch And I dislike sicklucker but I always think he is mafia | ||
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On October 25 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote: I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday. ##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax ##Vote: Skynx ? | ||
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On October 25 2016 05:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Supposedly koshi's ability kills the second person in the tally or it deals damage based on votes or something Oh we should definetly form a second wagon, shouldn't we? | ||
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On October 25 2016 05:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2016 05:49 GlowingBear wrote: On October 25 2016 05:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On October 25 2016 05:44 GlowingBear wrote: Wait, today is a double lynch? Supposedly koshi's ability kills the second person in the tally or it deals damage based on votes or something Oh we should definetly form a second wagon, shouldn't we? Have you opened the vote thread at all? Just did Btw I'm rethinking ritoky. He may be mafia, after all. I think I'll check his fikter by the night | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:24 sicklucker wrote: huh ya I tottaly gave you a post modifier you and gb. Its not single target I had to use it on both of you. im a little disapionted mods tell you not to post tho. nothing about that in my role description Thank you for that modifier, it's been hard to keep myself from posting much /sarcasm I'm almost dead. It's boring to know you're all focused on me. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:32 sicklucker wrote: its not like my role even kills him. what we can do is if gbs town he will agree to kill himself since hes gonna die at some point anyway. and wave can not post because I didnt really like his posts This is so stupid it hurts | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2016 07:34 beentheredonethat wrote: tbh I lied about attacking you so I don't get roleblocked, yeah. I LOST OVER 65 HP ALREADY So did I :/ | ||
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On October 25 2016 08:41 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2016 08:28 Bill Murray wrote: Should I attack vivax or sick cause I'm leaning towArds sick ? the hell I thought you were my boy. im surprised people are attacking you. but then again this town is a disaster This is the most anti-town post I have seen in the game. You never said I'm mafia but still dealt tons of damage on me. I'm town and I'm trying to play the game, I'm trying to do stuff with my limited time, and this shit is getting to my nerves because everyone is saying I have to do stuff but when I post reads and questions most people simply ignore. You all have to start to accept that I'm not a heavy poster anymore. It doesn't mean I'm not contributive. You think I'm Mafia? | ||
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On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote: anyway afk until vivax' flip This is scummy | ||
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On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote: ##vote: Vivax My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker. Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh. Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far: Vivax Glowingbear Lunatic Kurumi Exo Hamazura (???) Artanis sicklucker Koshi They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo) Glowingbear is scum. I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how. Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up? In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult. There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with. As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed. Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.) I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out. Random thoughts: Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly. I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy. I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh. There might be more. When I flip green you know who to lynch | ||
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WoS, why do you scumread me? | ||
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On October 26 2016 11:55 iamperfection wrote: you here glowingbear? Yes | ||
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On October 26 2016 11:48 WaveofShadow wrote: These two posts don't really align, for the record, GB. Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 11:41 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote: ##vote: Vivax My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker. Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh. Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far: Vivax Glowingbear Lunatic Kurumi Exo Hamazura (???) Artanis sicklucker Koshi They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo) Glowingbear is scum. I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how. Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up? In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult. There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with. As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed. Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.) I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out. Random thoughts: Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly. I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy. I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh. There might be more. When I flip green you know who to lynch Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 11:45 GlowingBear wrote: I'm really upset for being scumread for reasibs that doesn't make me Mafia WoS, why do you scumread me? Try again. I'll tell you how they align. You've just hinted you confirmed me as mafia by using ways related to mechanics. It means you're lying or you're bluffing, because I am town. Therefore, you must have very strong reasons for which you believe I am mafia, or you're just simply mafia, which I'm starting to believe in. I've only seen you saying I'm useless. The problem is that (1) being useless doesn't mean I'm mafia and (2) I'm not being that useless since I'm posting reads from times to times. You don't seem to care for those reads I post. You only seem to be interested in pushing my lynch without reevaluating if you're wrong or not. You don't react to the new information I post in thread at all. You're playing an easy game. My question is: how can you keep calling me useless without even giving me the chance to be town? Why are you so right on me being mafia that nothing changes the way you think? I've done NOTHING scummy in order to have you this tunneled on me. You're also being quite selective between the lurkers. Say, what's so different between my play and hopeless' play in your POV? | ||
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On October 23 2016 00:18 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2016 00:06 Tubesock wrote: I don't buy the LT and SL are town because of targeting WoS one bit. I absolutely do and think wave's reaction to it here: Show nested quote + On October 22 2016 22:53 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 22 2016 17:32 Holyflare wrote: On October 22 2016 17:21 Holyflare wrote: On October 22 2016 09:41 Hopeless1der wrote: On October 22 2016 09:34 NocturneMage wrote: Lunatic is also rreaaaaaaalllllyyyyyy meh. On one hand he's calling holyflare mafia with no explanation other than opportunism but then we have luna/hf both pushing each other. same time though, lunaticman points out this discrepancy though.... On October 21 2016 05:05 Lunaticman wrote: On October 21 2016 04:57 ritoky wrote: On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote: On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote: [quote] So omgus? haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc. Do you have any opinions on HF's read on me? I think it is very shallow as expected day one. It felt like he just wanted to assign blame to someone. Throwing the first rock if you will. I like your idea of building a town circle, that is always the most important thing the first two days. I'm also sad to see you say you will never play again maybe your just not in the mood. Also I'm off to bed nn. On October 21 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote: On October 21 2016 22:39 Koshi wrote: Hopeless1der and Lunatic are my preferred lynches for today. Going to vote with Acrofoles because I like his case. ##unvote ##vote Hopeless1der p60 atm HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you. You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons. It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia. and that double standard gives me pause, atm stuck on whether he's trying to skate by or whether he's someone who speaks in simpler sentences (if that makes any sense, basically someone who makes instinct reads...) but will need to revisit him after flips or more content. I currently have some huge associative WIFOM between koshi, HF and Lunaticman. My read of koshi is town, and it really makes me hate HF and Lunatic. The fact that HF and Luna are weakly pushing each other gives me weak bus vibes, but again this is very associative. I will note that they've said the other is scummy but never voted to match. So if I have a choice between a town koshi or a town ticktock I go after the scrub one??? I could have easily lynched koshi but I'm waiting to see if he does something, anything in fact while i had an actual case on TT. He also claimed a town ability too. Koshi regularly gets nk on night 1 and 2 as town because he's a big threat and plays well but for some reason I'd just let him stay alive? Wave is definitely mafia btw. I lost 0 hp. Ok wave might not definitely be mafia but lt/sl are practically confirmed town in my eyes now. I don't believe mafia start laying their kp on wave when they can attack better targets. Oh actually this is a good point. Ugh. Stop making good points. Is pretty bad because in my/lt/sl's world this only makes sense because we believe wave is mafia In wave's world (if he's town) then it's his scum read lt getting rid of town wave and sl stacking with me too But he said it's a good point which is kinda scummy response because it's only a good point if wave is mafia Holyflare also thought you were. He died night1 Let's see what btdt thinks | ||
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On October 26 2016 12:58 WaveofShadow wrote: This flailing reminds me a previous game where you were scum. Can't remember which one. Maybe I'll actually go look it up. Awesome way to dodge a legit suspicion | ||
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On October 26 2016 13:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Here's another fun couple of questions for you because I'm bored: What happened to you last night, and why haven't you claimed any attacks? Last night I forgot to take action and I didn't do a single attack in this game | ||
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On October 26 2016 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2016 02:35 GlowingBear wrote: Oh and I'm okay with WoS, might be town I dislike hopeless, would lynch in a pinch And I dislike sicklucker but I always think he is mafia You didn't have a problem with me here even though HF was suspicious of me longer before this Like....you are literally calling me scum now right after you called me TOWN after posting this: Show nested quote + On October 24 2016 22:11 GlowingBear wrote: On October 24 2016 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok so hamazura has done legit fucking nothing. I think due to weird 'newbie-to-the-site' statements and questions he's more likely to be town but he got just be one of those tricksy little hobbitses who knows to make himself look like that. Hard to say for sure. I'd say pick him off at night or with KP but again, there are better targets I think. Overall town really needs to step it up I think or we just lose to ourselves. Of all the people consistently under suspicion: LT GB Hamazura Exo SL Tubesock Lunatic and so on and so forth If you are town,if you do not want to lose, pick up the slack and prove to us you're town. Wave, there's a huge problem in people's suspucions on me: their suspicions are based on me being useless. It is right that effort is a town trait, but lack of effort isn't, per se, a scum trait. You're basically calling scum every lurker. oh GB poor, poor GB. I can call you town and change my mind, it's the nature of people who doesn't have perfect information | ||
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On October 26 2016 18:29 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 11:38 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote: anyway afk until vivax' flip This is scummy how do you feel about it if it was a lie tho Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 26 2016 12:03 Hopeless1der wrote: On October 26 2016 12:02 ritoky wrote: On October 26 2016 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote: also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though. So are you voting alongside us/helping us for now so the game continues? I assume you just leave the game if you just get to where you want? Is there anything that you're not telling us that can affect us in any particular way? Like can you recruit as some people were suggesting? i need 1 or 2 mafia to die for enough phases to win i believe. i don't recruit, i don't get more votes, and i believe i disappear upon completing my objective. i have a move + attack each day phase. that's pretty much it. so yes i need to town side. Who wants to CC ritoky? because otherwise I advocate straight up ignoring him until we clear out a couple mafia. I wouldn't waste a cc on him. I bet there is something he's not telling us but overall he does seem fairly harmless, and if he helps us kill scum I'm cool with him idk he's already doing fish things. it's not wrong we need to lynch a couple mafia before worrying about it too much so w/e. Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 13:05 GlowingBear wrote: He was suspicious of WoS, called Exo lunatic and Skynx mafia. Also called dandelion Mafia. Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote: WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman Probs mafia team so this is about btnd i guess. and you're basing your entire read on the game on his. now that seems like top tier critical thinking to me. Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 16:59 ExO_ wrote: I swear to god this happens in literally every single game I play on TL. Every time I think I make a really good case it gets dismissed and not discussed. Every single time. Its so frustrating. Am I really making that many leaps of logic with my read? I don't think so at all yet nobody will even give my case time of day have you tried KISSing yet I'm not basing all my scumreads on btdt's. I've said why I think WoS is Mafia, and I think you're scummy, and I think Darkness was used to save a Mafia who was probably getting lynched day2, and considering HF's and btdt's filter, that person might be lunatic or even lunatic abs Vivax | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:15 ptmc wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:08 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 25 2016 02:35 GlowingBear wrote: Oh and I'm okay with WoS, might be town I dislike hopeless, would lynch in a pinch And I dislike sicklucker but I always think he is mafia You didn't have a problem with me here even though HF was suspicious of me longer before this Like....you are literally calling me scum now right after you called me TOWN after posting this: On October 24 2016 22:11 GlowingBear wrote: On October 24 2016 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok so hamazura has done legit fucking nothing. I think due to weird 'newbie-to-the-site' statements and questions he's more likely to be town but he got just be one of those tricksy little hobbitses who knows to make himself look like that. Hard to say for sure. I'd say pick him off at night or with KP but again, there are better targets I think. Overall town really needs to step it up I think or we just lose to ourselves. Of all the people consistently under suspicion: LT GB Hamazura Exo SL Tubesock Lunatic and so on and so forth If you are town,if you do not want to lose, pick up the slack and prove to us you're town. Wave, there's a huge problem in people's suspucions on me: their suspicions are based on me being useless. It is right that effort is a town trait, but lack of effort isn't, per se, a scum trait. You're basically calling scum every lurker. oh GB poor, poor GB. I can call you town and change my mind, it's the nature of people who doesn't have perfect information But having different opinions based on the same data is kinda weird, no? It's not different opinions on the same data? The reasons I found WoS town and WoS scummy are unrelated. If HF found WoS was scummy for rreasons that I found WoS was town, it doesn't matter, because the relevant information I've brought was that two dead townies thought WoS was scum. Period. WoS can't even answer me directly. You're all assuming he has a check on me when it is impossible that he has. And he isn't even hard claiming because he knows he doesn't have a check. It's ridiculous and so obvious he has been dodging all the legit suspicions I have on him. By the way I forgot to add hopeless to that list of Mafia team. | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:17 ptmc wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:14 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 18:29 Dandel Ion wrote: On October 26 2016 11:38 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote: anyway afk until vivax' flip This is scummy how do you feel about it if it was a lie tho On October 26 2016 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 26 2016 12:03 Hopeless1der wrote: On October 26 2016 12:02 ritoky wrote: On October 26 2016 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote: also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though. So are you voting alongside us/helping us for now so the game continues? I assume you just leave the game if you just get to where you want? Is there anything that you're not telling us that can affect us in any particular way? Like can you recruit as some people were suggesting? i need 1 or 2 mafia to die for enough phases to win i believe. i don't recruit, i don't get more votes, and i believe i disappear upon completing my objective. i have a move + attack each day phase. that's pretty much it. so yes i need to town side. Who wants to CC ritoky? because otherwise I advocate straight up ignoring him until we clear out a couple mafia. I wouldn't waste a cc on him. I bet there is something he's not telling us but overall he does seem fairly harmless, and if he helps us kill scum I'm cool with him idk he's already doing fish things. it's not wrong we need to lynch a couple mafia before worrying about it too much so w/e. On October 26 2016 13:05 GlowingBear wrote: He was suspicious of WoS, called Exo lunatic and Skynx mafia. Also called dandelion Mafia. On October 26 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote: WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman Probs mafia team so this is about btnd i guess. and you're basing your entire read on the game on his. now that seems like top tier critical thinking to me. On October 26 2016 16:59 ExO_ wrote: I swear to god this happens in literally every single game I play on TL. Every time I think I make a really good case it gets dismissed and not discussed. Every single time. Its so frustrating. Am I really making that many leaps of logic with my read? I don't think so at all yet nobody will even give my case time of day have you tried KISSing yet I'm not basing all my scumreads on btdt's. I've said why I think WoS is Mafia, and I think you're scummy, and I think Darkness was used to save a Mafia who was probably getting lynched day2, and considering HF's and btdt's filter, that person might be lunatic or even lunatic abs Vivax Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 09:20 AFK Jungle wrote: Clues: There are no clues. All flavor is just that-- flavor. and why would a no-lynch ability that is probably not a one-off be AI on either Lunatic or Vivax? Why would town use no lynch that day? There is no town motivation to do so. There is Mafia motivation to do so. What if both were Mafia and Koshi was saying he had a double lynxh and they would lose both players? Of course one of them or both of them are mafia | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:19 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:14 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 18:29 Dandel Ion wrote: On October 26 2016 11:38 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote: anyway afk until vivax' flip This is scummy how do you feel about it if it was a lie tho On October 26 2016 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 26 2016 12:03 Hopeless1der wrote: On October 26 2016 12:02 ritoky wrote: On October 26 2016 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote: also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though. So are you voting alongside us/helping us for now so the game continues? I assume you just leave the game if you just get to where you want? Is there anything that you're not telling us that can affect us in any particular way? Like can you recruit as some people were suggesting? i need 1 or 2 mafia to die for enough phases to win i believe. i don't recruit, i don't get more votes, and i believe i disappear upon completing my objective. i have a move + attack each day phase. that's pretty much it. so yes i need to town side. Who wants to CC ritoky? because otherwise I advocate straight up ignoring him until we clear out a couple mafia. I wouldn't waste a cc on him. I bet there is something he's not telling us but overall he does seem fairly harmless, and if he helps us kill scum I'm cool with him idk he's already doing fish things. it's not wrong we need to lynch a couple mafia before worrying about it too much so w/e. On October 26 2016 13:05 GlowingBear wrote: He was suspicious of WoS, called Exo lunatic and Skynx mafia. Also called dandelion Mafia. On October 26 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote: WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman Probs mafia team so this is about btnd i guess. and you're basing your entire read on the game on his. now that seems like top tier critical thinking to me. On October 26 2016 16:59 ExO_ wrote: I swear to god this happens in literally every single game I play on TL. Every time I think I make a really good case it gets dismissed and not discussed. Every single time. Its so frustrating. Am I really making that many leaps of logic with my read? I don't think so at all yet nobody will even give my case time of day have you tried KISSing yet I'm not basing all my scumreads on btdt's. I've said why I think WoS is Mafia, and I think you're scummy, and I think Darkness was used to save a Mafia who was probably getting lynched day2, and considering HF's and btdt's filter, that person might be lunatic or even lunatic abs Vivax What how can you possibly think vivax isn't scum. He posted a seal. I didn't see it | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:24 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 23:15 ptmc wrote: On October 26 2016 23:08 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 25 2016 02:35 GlowingBear wrote: Oh and I'm okay with WoS, might be town I dislike hopeless, would lynch in a pinch And I dislike sicklucker but I always think he is mafia You didn't have a problem with me here even though HF was suspicious of me longer before this Like....you are literally calling me scum now right after you called me TOWN after posting this: On October 24 2016 22:11 GlowingBear wrote: On October 24 2016 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok so hamazura has done legit fucking nothing. I think due to weird 'newbie-to-the-site' statements and questions he's more likely to be town but he got just be one of those tricksy little hobbitses who knows to make himself look like that. Hard to say for sure. I'd say pick him off at night or with KP but again, there are better targets I think. Overall town really needs to step it up I think or we just lose to ourselves. Of all the people consistently under suspicion: LT GB Hamazura Exo SL Tubesock Lunatic and so on and so forth If you are town,if you do not want to lose, pick up the slack and prove to us you're town. Wave, there's a huge problem in people's suspucions on me: their suspicions are based on me being useless. It is right that effort is a town trait, but lack of effort isn't, per se, a scum trait. You're basically calling scum every lurker. oh GB poor, poor GB. I can call you town and change my mind, it's the nature of people who doesn't have perfect information But having different opinions based on the same data is kinda weird, no? It's not different opinions on the same data? The reasons I found WoS town and WoS scummy are unrelated. If HF found WoS was scummy for rreasons that I found WoS was town, it doesn't matter, because the relevant information I've brought was that two dead townies thought WoS was scum. Period. WoS can't even answer me directly. You're all assuming he has a check on me when it is impossible that he has. And he isn't even hard claiming because he knows he doesn't have a check. It's ridiculous and so obvious he has been dodging all the legit suspicions I have on him. By the way I forgot to add hopeless to that list of Mafia team. So what you're saying is, now because HF is dead, I'm scum? k. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING STOP FAKING YOU'RE STUPID ENOUGH TO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, I KNOW YOU AREN'T | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:29 ptmc wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:26 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 23:17 ptmc wrote: On October 26 2016 23:14 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 18:29 Dandel Ion wrote: On October 26 2016 11:38 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 07:24 Dandel Ion wrote: anyway afk until vivax' flip This is scummy how do you feel about it if it was a lie tho On October 26 2016 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 26 2016 12:03 Hopeless1der wrote: On October 26 2016 12:02 ritoky wrote: On October 26 2016 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 26 2016 11:32 ritoky wrote: also if iamp is mafia, it is because he takes more than he gives. dunno if he is though. So are you voting alongside us/helping us for now so the game continues? I assume you just leave the game if you just get to where you want? Is there anything that you're not telling us that can affect us in any particular way? Like can you recruit as some people were suggesting? i need 1 or 2 mafia to die for enough phases to win i believe. i don't recruit, i don't get more votes, and i believe i disappear upon completing my objective. i have a move + attack each day phase. that's pretty much it. so yes i need to town side. Who wants to CC ritoky? because otherwise I advocate straight up ignoring him until we clear out a couple mafia. I wouldn't waste a cc on him. I bet there is something he's not telling us but overall he does seem fairly harmless, and if he helps us kill scum I'm cool with him idk he's already doing fish things. it's not wrong we need to lynch a couple mafia before worrying about it too much so w/e. On October 26 2016 13:05 GlowingBear wrote: He was suspicious of WoS, called Exo lunatic and Skynx mafia. Also called dandelion Mafia. On October 26 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote: WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman Probs mafia team so this is about btnd i guess. and you're basing your entire read on the game on his. now that seems like top tier critical thinking to me. On October 26 2016 16:59 ExO_ wrote: I swear to god this happens in literally every single game I play on TL. Every time I think I make a really good case it gets dismissed and not discussed. Every single time. Its so frustrating. Am I really making that many leaps of logic with my read? I don't think so at all yet nobody will even give my case time of day have you tried KISSing yet I'm not basing all my scumreads on btdt's. I've said why I think WoS is Mafia, and I think you're scummy, and I think Darkness was used to save a Mafia who was probably getting lynched day2, and considering HF's and btdt's filter, that person might be lunatic or even lunatic abs Vivax On October 05 2016 09:20 AFK Jungle wrote: Clues: There are no clues. All flavor is just that-- flavor. and why would a no-lynch ability that is probably not a one-off be AI on either Lunatic or Vivax? Why would town use no lynch that day? There is no town motivation to do so. There is Mafia motivation to do so. What if both were Mafia and Koshi was saying he had a double lynxh and they would lose both players? Of course one of them or both of them are mafia What if mafia has a no-lych and none of them are mafia? Would mafia save their cooldown? Do you think that's an ability that can refresh? That would be pretty OP | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:32 Dandel Ion wrote: hey his reasoning on me is 'he said he'd go afk, didn't, but btnd said so so i'll just stick with it' I tbink you're just hanging here without really having motivstion to discover people's alignment. That AFK was just a trigger that changed you from suspiciois to scummy | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote: No what I thought you were saying was before when you called me town for something earlier in the game, nothing actually changed, and now you're calling me scum for it. Then you just explained it as being because some townies are dead who called me scum, when those townies (HF specifically) called me scum much earlier in the game when you still thought I was town. Nothing has changed except for the fact that HF is dead now. Care to explain it better then? Two townies that suspected you being dead by Mafia reinforces my scum read on you. It's not the basis of it. My opinion on why you're scun is that you're soft claimibg a check on me when it's impossible, and because you're tunneled on me since day1 without a clear reason for why I would be Mafia, and avoiding answering the questions I direct to you. | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:33 ptmc wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:30 GlowingBear wrote: I ask all of you willingness to interact with me. I have 5 pages of filter, it's not that much to read, and if you keep ignoring me/tunneled on me and not willing to reconsider your positions I'll just peace out and let you lose to goddammn obv Mafia I have read your filter and have found nothing helpful for town in it. If you are scum or town doesn't even matter to me at that point, since even as town you apparently are not willing to help town win. And i don't want a harder check claim than this (you even quoted it): Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 11:41 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote: ##vote: Vivax My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker. Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh. Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far: Vivax Glowingbear Lunatic Kurumi Exo Hamazura (???) Artanis sicklucker Koshi They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo) Glowingbear is scum. I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how. Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up? In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult. There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with. As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed. Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.) I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out. Random thoughts: Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly. I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy. I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh. There might be more. When I flip green you know who to lynch Your last sentence is however correct. It's kinda sad that you help town the most when you have died. Then I won't waste more of my time. If you think there's nothing informational in my filter, then I'm over with this game. Kill me and keep losing. Bye bye | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:39 ptmc wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:36 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote: No what I thought you were saying was before when you called me town for something earlier in the game, nothing actually changed, and now you're calling me scum for it. Then you just explained it as being because some townies are dead who called me scum, when those townies (HF specifically) called me scum much earlier in the game when you still thought I was town. Nothing has changed except for the fact that HF is dead now. Care to explain it better then? Two townies that suspected you being dead by Mafia reinforces my scum read on you. It's not the basis of it. My opinion on why you're scun is that you're soft claimibg a check on me when it's impossible, and because you're tunneled on me since day1 without a clear reason for why I would be Mafia, and avoiding answering the questions I direct to you. So why am i not scum? because no dead townies thought i was scum? I've also had you on my scum-pile since D1. Because there was one post that made me think you were town. | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:39 WaveofShadow wrote: And you know, actually, now that I look at btdt's filter, he didn't have me at scum when he died. He had me at likely town. You're just conveniently looking at his posts from earlier on in the game when he found me scummy. Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:37 iamperfection wrote: So has gb killed himself yet with his posts ? I mean I'm still enjoying myself watching him flail but if you mean literally (as in maybe SL did his thing to him lol?) I don't think so. Care to explain why the check is impossible GB? Also I'd be glad to answer anything you have to throw at me for funz. Because I am town | ||
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On October 26 2016 12:52 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 11:48 WaveofShadow wrote: These two posts don't really align, for the record, GB. On October 26 2016 11:41 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote: ##vote: Vivax My list as of last night still stands, except without the giant bold red letters on sicklucker. Assuming most (if not all) of the town believes I am town as well, why exactly did so many people still shoot into LT tonight? I suppose I can't blame you guys entirely, but Tubesock you especially (assuming you did the brunt of the damage) wasting a massive KP for town on him when I didn't list him as scum----especially when you've had me hard town forever? Bleh. Anyway, THIS LIST, in case people have ignored it so far: Vivax Glowingbear Lunatic Kurumi Exo Hamazura (???) Artanis sicklucker Koshi They all need to die. In something like this order, preferably. (I added Exo) Glowingbear is scum. I have confirmed this, and no, you don't need to know how. Why am I claiming this now when Vivax is already up? In case other people have some daytime stuff we can do to remove him. I'd give Koshi a chance here to do his thing today, but the reason he is on the list, is as I stated last night, it is nearly impossible to tell if he performed the no lynch action himself or if it was instigated by scum. If he is able to do it again today, we'll obviously know but until he proves himself town somehow (since a secret vote-damage-killing ability is not even remotely solely pro-town like he says) he needs to be on the block. As I believe he is likely at low life, this shouldn't be difficult. There are probably one or two people I'm missing and maybe someone who's wrong on there. The lurk makes things fairly difficult, but I don't believe I am massively wrong. The people who are under some amount of suspicion like Ritoky (who I have zero reason not to believe his claim), Skynx, Tubesock and Bill Murray I am fine with. As far as sicklucker---ugh. What I said about him last night is basically true. He's in Koshi tier right now because I can't be absolutely certain he isn't being the ballsiest scum ever---I could swear he has flat out claimed or made massive fakeclaims as scum before and had it work out for him. I don't know why I think this either but I'm not going to do the legwork involved. If somebody else wants to they're more than welcome. In any case, probabyl low priority right now but eventually he may have to be removed. Iamp you're in HF tier for me right now---that is I'm a little paranoid. You're universally townread I believe and since you can't be 3P anymore (probably) the fact that you're still alive and mostly unscathed is concerning, but not to such a degree that I;m willing to even remotely focus on you above anyone else I've listed. Just some thoughts for the future (and I say HF tier because I'm sure you could be thinking the same about me if you're town---this is how HF and I play every game together. Neither of us ever truly trust the other.) I can't be certain if protection was used on me last night (well I can, but you guys don't need to know how I'd know that either) but I didn't take any damage. Don't claim if you helped me out. Random thoughts: Scum KP likely works (I hope) similarly to how I did it in LoL mafia. There is likely some large amount of factional KP (whether this has to be delivered is a hosting choice I guess, and only somewhat relevant right now), and hopefully this can be reduced once we finally start picking them off. I would say if they can somehow prevent Vivax from dying AGAIN today we're probably super fucked because it seems as though they decided to chunk a few people last night instead of outright killing any one person just in case of protection. As such, use protection accordingly. I should be able to do a bunch more going forward assuming I'm not silenced again or somebody does something real derpy. I know this was kinda disjointed but I wanted to get some thoughts out while they were somewhat fresh. There might be more. When I flip green you know who to lynch On October 26 2016 11:45 GlowingBear wrote: I'm really upset for being scumread for reasibs that doesn't make me Mafia WoS, why do you scumread me? Try again. I'll tell you how they align. You've just hinted you confirmed me as mafia by using ways related to mechanics. It means you're lying or you're bluffing, because I am town. Therefore, you must have very strong reasons for which you believe I am mafia, or you're just simply mafia, which I'm starting to believe in. I've only seen you saying I'm useless. The problem is that (1) being useless doesn't mean I'm mafia and (2) I'm not being that useless since I'm posting reads from times to times. You don't seem to care for those reads I post. You only seem to be interested in pushing my lynch without reevaluating if you're wrong or not. You don't react to the new information I post in thread at all. You're playing an easy game. My question is: how can you keep calling me useless without even giving me the chance to be town? Why are you so right on me being mafia that nothing changes the way you think? I've done NOTHING scummy in order to have you this tunneled on me. You're also being quite selective between the lurkers. Say, what's so different between my play and hopeless' play in your POV? | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:46 WaveofShadow wrote: The fact that you think you've done nothing scummy is completely subjective. I and plenty of other people would completely disagree. I'm not being selective on lurkers at all either, because at this point the only true lurker is the guy who should have been modkilled ages ago. Everyone else has enough to go on in their filter. Hopeless is town for a whole ton of reasons I had on him earlier in the game and is no comparison to you. Ok, but you fail to explain WHY am I scummy and WHAT'S the difference. Saying there is a difference without saying what it is is just a way to dodge answering the questions I've posted TWICE for you after almost BEGGING for you to answer them. You're mafia | ||
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On October 27 2016 00:27 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:07 GlowingBear wrote: On October 26 2016 13:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Here's another fun couple of questions for you because I'm bored: What happened to you last night, and why haven't you claimed any attacks? Last night I forgot to take action and I didn't do a single attack in this game What did you do d1? Your movement is unexplained. I think you hit H1der... I have an investigative skill which I've been using. | ||
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On October 27 2016 00:34 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2016 23:30 GlowingBear wrote: I ask all of you willingness to interact with me. I have 5 pages of filter, it's not that much to read, and if you keep ignoring me/tunneled on me and not willing to reconsider your positions I'll just peace out and let you lose to goddammn obv Mafia Oi Cara. Tudo bem? Tudo bem. Beijos | ||
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On October 27 2016 02:22 Acrofales wrote: But for real. It's time for info. Why did you visit H1? What happened? Who have you visited since (and why haven't you moved for it). I didn't visit hopeless a single time. I did investigate ptmc, ritoky, and Hama. I was rolenlocked while visiting ptmc. | ||
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On October 27 2016 02:52 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 27 2016 02:50 GlowingBear wrote: On October 27 2016 02:22 Acrofales wrote: But for real. It's time for info. Why did you visit H1? What happened? Who have you visited since (and why haven't you moved for it). I didn't visit hopeless a single time. I did investigate ptmc, ritoky, and Hama. I was rolenlocked while visiting ptmc. and? What was ritoky and hama? Phew. I'll come clean. I'm 3p. One of my win con is to find my enemies and eliminate them. I have an investigative role that says if certain person is my enemy or not. They are not my enemies. My other win con is to survive until the end of the game | ||
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On October 27 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote: There is fucking 2 more 3p claims and you put 0 of them in your scumlist. How many 3p do you think there are? A lot | ||
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On October 27 2016 03:10 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On October 27 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote: There is fucking 2 more 3p claims and you put 0 of them in your scumlist. How many 3p do you think there are? A lot Koshi, why would I put the other two 3p in my scum list? | ||
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On October 27 2016 04:09 ritoky wrote: GB what exact results do your investigations return? Alignment? Name? Role? Enemy/not enemy? Enemy/not enemy | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:47 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On October 27 2016 05:13 GlowingBear wrote: On October 27 2016 04:09 ritoky wrote: GB what exact results do your investigations return? Alignment? Name? Role? Enemy/not enemy? Enemy/not enemy And how did you get 3 total checks from 4 phases and only 2 of them being night? Also, why check hamalamadindong when you have literal 0 mentions of him in your entire filter? I've said I forgot to send night 2 action and that I was roleblocked night1 Oh btw my scum list still stands | ||
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