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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 03:46 GMT
#401
ok i just read through page 18 and here we are with exo outting a character with healing / protection spells

1) this doesnt mean exo is mafia
2) this doesnt mean waveofshadow is town

the way this game works, mafia will definitely have healing/protection abilities on their support
dazzles overpowered ass would fit mafia support perfectly to be honest
##Vote: WaveofShadow
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 03:48 GMT
#402
+ Show Spoiler +
bookmark - sam you need to read from the top of 19 through the game

ok so im going to catch up on my wednesday programming ill be back shortly dont go anywhere
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 03:50 GMT
#403
On October 20 2016 12:39 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:33 ritoky wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:30 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:24 ritoky wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:17 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote:
Exo looks like a VI to me and WoS looks a bit townie cuz reasons.....
Hopeless is giving me scum vibes because of him defending WoS.


wat makes you think exo is dumb instead of scum?

Because not revealing a TPro to town is more beneficial for scum


?????? i don't even know what this says.

TPro=Town Protection=Doc like roles


but how do you know WoS is a protective role? and why does exo get town credit for pushing on an obvious crumb when he thinks the person is lying since crumbing protective is dumb as shit?

i don't understand how you get to dumb town
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
October 20 2016 04:02 GMT
#404
Right so, people who I haven't played with and thus don't want to bother with learning to read:

1 Tictock
5 Skynx
8 beentheredonethat
9 ExO_
10 Lunaticman
11 HamazuraXTakitsubo
12 Tubesock
16 Eversince
17 ptmc
18 Kurumiz

Please lynch someone from this list pls.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
October 20 2016 04:03 GMT
#405
If you aren't on this list and I haven't played with you, please let me know so I know I can lynch you today.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 20 2016 04:10 GMT
#406
On October 20 2016 13:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right so, people who I haven't played with and thus don't want to bother with learning to read:

1 Tictock
5 Skynx
8 beentheredonethat
9 ExO_
10 Lunaticman
11 HamazuraXTakitsubo
12 Tubesock
16 Eversince
17 ptmc
18 Kurumiz

Please lynch someone from this list pls.

My name is WaveofShadow, and I approve this message.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 20 2016 04:13 GMT
#407
I claim Oracle. I'm also going to sleep right meow. good night.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 04:52 GMT
#408
guess i am not gettin a response to my question. rip in pepperonis.

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 05:15 GMT
#409
im kind of curious about ritoky but that might just be off and i could be wrong. just a gut feeling something is wrong with one or two posts he made. one of him or hopeless will prob be maf - i dont think both are maf given their interactions. even i could be wrong ..i dont think i am

On October 20 2016 11:07 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:00 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:55 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:50 iamperfection wrote:
the fact that you would point it out


Why wouldn't I point it out? I'm sure I'm not the only player here who is familiar with dota, and can realize what he's alluding to. And this early basically coming out and claiming it, is something doctor wouldn't do. Which means in my view he's lying, and I want him to explain it.

crumbing doctor isnt a thing? btw, I'm a doctor. not really, im like a paranoid remorseful nurse.


Crumbing would be like walking into a bar wearing a dark coat and sitting in a shadowy corner, leaving a note on a table. What he's doing is just short of bursting open the doors to the bar, stark naked announcing he has arrived.

It doesn't necessarily mean he's not town, but I do think he is lying. Unless he's just really dumb (in my opinion)

he is a lol player


So a big problem is how familiar he is with dota. I think it would be stupid to claim doctor right away as I said, but assuming he's town why fake claim? He would have to know enough about dota to know wave of shadow is a dazzle spell, and that dazzle also has the shallow grave spell, which would lead someone to draw the conclusion that he is the doctor.

hmmm idk. I do think he's lying, but if he isn't super knowledgeable about dota it would give a little bit of support to the idea that he was telling the truth.

I'm a bit conflicted now. He's either lying or really dumb town. And I think if he's lying he's more likely to be scum lying.

yeah no WoS is probably scum; don't be conflicted
you have a good case because it's exactly what i was thinking i just couldnt put it to words the way you did

On October 20 2016 11:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
and now hes crumbing spirit breaker.

what, where?!

On October 20 2016 11:24 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:09 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:08 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:07 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:00 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:55 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:50 iamperfection wrote:
the fact that you would point it out


Why wouldn't I point it out? I'm sure I'm not the only player here who is familiar with dota, and can realize what he's alluding to. And this early basically coming out and claiming it, is something doctor wouldn't do. Which means in my view he's lying, and I want him to explain it.

crumbing doctor isnt a thing? btw, I'm a doctor. not really, im like a paranoid remorseful nurse.


Crumbing would be like walking into a bar wearing a dark coat and sitting in a shadowy corner, leaving a note on a table. What he's doing is just short of bursting open the doors to the bar, stark naked announcing he has arrived.

It doesn't necessarily mean he's not town, but I do think he is lying. Unless he's just really dumb (in my opinion)

he is a lol player


So a big problem is how familiar he is with dota. I think it would be stupid to claim doctor right away as I said, but assuming he's town why fake claim? He would have to know enough about dota to know wave of shadow is a dazzle spell, and that dazzle also has the shallow grave spell, which would lead someone to draw the conclusion that he is the doctor.

hmmm idk. I do think he's lying, but if he isn't super knowledgeable about dota it would give a little bit of support to the idea that he was telling the truth.

I'm a bit conflicted now. He's either lying or really dumb town. And I think if he's lying he's more likely to be scum lying.

no i was just saying he is a lol player so he probably is dumb. i saw an opportunity to make a lol joke and i took it.


Oh. Well what I'm saying still stands.

WaveOfShadow how familiar with dota are you? And why are you lying about implying doc?

I'm liking this line of questioning less and less. There's no proof he "lied", nor is there proof that he claimed dazzle. He could be claiming shadow demon or nevermore, both heroes that could require extended time to ramp up their abilities in a flavor context, thus justifying his request to 'keep me alive'.


I'm asking him directly to explain himself. There is no proof, but it would be very easy for WoS to come in and say "I didn't claim dazzle". It would be very easy. And yet he didn't say that. You're literally making a defense for him, when he won't defend himself.

I don't think asking for a little explanation is too much at all.

i dont think hes defending him so much as hes attacking your credibility
dont sweat it you came to a good conclusion
On October 20 2016 11:27 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:24 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:09 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:08 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:07 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:00 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
[quote]
crumbing doctor isnt a thing? btw, I'm a doctor. not really, im like a paranoid remorseful nurse.


Crumbing would be like walking into a bar wearing a dark coat and sitting in a shadowy corner, leaving a note on a table. What he's doing is just short of bursting open the doors to the bar, stark naked announcing he has arrived.

It doesn't necessarily mean he's not town, but I do think he is lying. Unless he's just really dumb (in my opinion)

he is a lol player


So a big problem is how familiar he is with dota. I think it would be stupid to claim doctor right away as I said, but assuming he's town why fake claim? He would have to know enough about dota to know wave of shadow is a dazzle spell, and that dazzle also has the shallow grave spell, which would lead someone to draw the conclusion that he is the doctor.

hmmm idk. I do think he's lying, but if he isn't super knowledgeable about dota it would give a little bit of support to the idea that he was telling the truth.

I'm a bit conflicted now. He's either lying or really dumb town. And I think if he's lying he's more likely to be scum lying.

no i was just saying he is a lol player so he probably is dumb. i saw an opportunity to make a lol joke and i took it.


Oh. Well what I'm saying still stands.

WaveOfShadow how familiar with dota are you? And why are you lying about implying doc?

I'm liking this line of questioning less and less. There's no proof he "lied", nor is there proof that he claimed dazzle. He could be claiming shadow demon or nevermore, both heroes that could require extended time to ramp up their abilities in a flavor context, thus justifying his request to 'keep me alive'.


I'm asking him directly to explain himself. There is no proof, but it would be very easy for WoS to come in and say "I didn't claim dazzle". It would be very easy. And yet he didn't say that. You're literally making a defense for him, when he won't defend himself.

I don't think asking for a little explanation is too much at all.

he basically claimed spirit breaker. Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow.


That's a bit of a stretch. Not a connection I think anybody would make, and one you are only making now that he said mooo. Really? Why didn't he just come out and say "I'm not claiming dazzle" right away?

this scramble from hopeless based on that feels like maf have coached WoS to not piss the bed - like he wanted to have soft claimed dazzle to win a healer on healer lynch later on in the game which can secure a win

THIS feels like potential deflecting off of that claim - a WoS lynch will get a ton of information out there ... if he flips red im going to be pushing for hopeless

I also HATE hopeless claim that he just made ... fishier than ritoky x10 so if you held a gun to my head id vote out WoS and hopeless at this point. if im wrong and hopeless is town ritoky is prob maf. you dont have to like me , like how i play, or even like dota (lol) but regardless of how illogical this sounds im right [usually]
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 05:17 GMT
#410
i don't really know what to make of hama cuz idk wtf he is, but he loves acronyms. i agree with his first sentence but his explanation for how he got there is dumb. plus his hopeless read doesn't make much sense without any explanation, do you think he is being opportunistic? why does someone with the same read as you = mafia?

i think exo is tentatively town because: hey this guy is crumbing -> hey it sounds like crumbing dazzle -> dazzle is probably a protective role -> only an idiot would blatantly claim protective d1 -> WoS isn't an idiot -> lying or mafia; is a very town progression of thought that i can understand. he tunneled a bit much and it was slightly low hanging so he doesnt as much cred

i think WoS is tentatively town cuz he gave me a boner. when people basically tell their accusers to go fuck themselves it gives me a town boner; rarely does it come from mafia. also his crumb seems too shitty to be mafia, but that's a bs metric only for my head.

i don't mind LT's policyland, but do more than just make a list. some of those ppl are posting.

i don't remember any of my other thoughts.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 05:18 GMT
#411
TLDR ritoki is probably town because i see ritoky + hopeless interaction as town/maf interaction and i think WoS is being mafcoached by hopeless

that leaves me here
town: bill , i am perfection, exo, ritoky, kurumi
scum: WoS, hopeless1der

i am NOT doing null this game so if my scum list exceeds 10 people or more i dont give a flying **** these are just my opinions
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 05:25 GMT
#412
there is a difference between constructive and destructive trolling. the type of trolling WoS is doing is basically stirring the pot and seeing if the soup nazi will come when people complain about the taste, forcing others to defend, and then even more to complain about the taste

no soup for you, waveofshadow, no soup for you, buddy boy
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 05:27 GMT
#413
also dandelion is town
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 20 2016 05:33 GMT
#414
wats the kurumi read BM? just the whole shoot/nuke stuff too audacious for mafia? or?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 20 2016 05:37 GMT
#415
this scramble from hopeless based on that feels like maf have coached WoS to not piss the bed - like he wanted to have soft claimed dazzle to win a healer on healer lynch later on in the game which can secure a win


HAHAHA
MY MAFIA TEAM COACHED ME
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 20 2016 05:38 GMT
#416
Oh my god

#1 maf playz
Have fellow scum partner jump on my dick cause the first thing I did was attract so much attention to myself in the early hours of day 1 that I am TERRIFIED of getting lynched

jesus christ
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
HamazuraXTakitsubo
Profile Joined October 2016
27 Posts
October 20 2016 06:21 GMT
#417
On October 20 2016 12:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 12:39 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:33 ritoky wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:30 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:24 ritoky wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:17 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote:
Exo looks like a VI to me and WoS looks a bit townie cuz reasons.....
Hopeless is giving me scum vibes because of him defending WoS.


wat makes you think exo is dumb instead of scum?

Because not revealing a TPro to town is more beneficial for scum


?????? i don't even know what this says.

TPro=Town Protection=Doc like roles


but how do you know WoS is a protective role? and why does exo get town credit for pushing on an obvious crumb when he thinks the person is lying since crumbing protective is dumb as shit?

i don't understand how you get to dumb town

Its just that Exo sounded like he beleived WoS's doc claim at first, now that I have read further he seems to have not believed it. Also his behaviour regarding the WoS situation looks like that of a newbie town.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18289 Posts
October 20 2016 06:55 GMT
#418
On October 20 2016 09:41 Bill Murray wrote:
Plus we can see who is gonna read ... or at least how many aren't

I read your poll, but didn't vote. Does that screw things up?

But anyway, good morning. Most notable thing that happened is Iamperfection role fishing. He complains about his role needing healing. And then starts regarding about coordinating claims. So much angst about how to enter the thread he forgets that town way of killing scum is by lynching them. Scum are the ones that depend entirely on roles.

##unvote
##vote: Iamperfection


The WoS/ExO_ gives me a slight town read on Exo: scum reveal their revelations in scumchat. If he were scum and had uncovered a breadcrumb, he wouldn't be yelling so in the thread. It's also far less significant than he thinks. WoS could have been given any of the characters with a shadow (shaman, fiend, etc.) Or even wave (morphing). Still neutral on WoS: defense is not indicative of alignment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 20 2016 07:05 GMT
#419
##vote ritoky

The gif to try hard ratio is askew.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
October 20 2016 07:53 GMT
#420
I'm going to be around for a few hours if anybody is here...seems dead. As a heads up civ 6 launches tomorrow night and my schedule is gonna be geared around streaming that with a lot of the other civ streamers. I'll be in and out though.

On October 20 2016 14:18 Bill Murray wrote:
TLDR ritoki is probably town because i see ritoky + hopeless interaction as town/maf interaction and i think WoS is being mafcoached by hopeless

that leaves me here
town: bill , i am perfection, exo, ritoky, kurumi
scum: WoS, hopeless1der

i am NOT doing null this game so if my scum list exceeds 10 people or more i dont give a flying **** these are just my opinions


What about the ritoky/hopeless interaction makes you think its town/mafia interaction?
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