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On October 20 2016 08:04 iamperfection wrote:
im reporting whatever host came up with my ult.
Looking at my role for me to be effective i'm gonna need some heals.
I have been struggling to think of which is the best way to approach this game with the ultra complicated roles like this. Usually i think town goes to willy nilly with information in these types of games but since our roles seems so complicated i feel some coordination is going to be needed to kill some scum.
At least you got an ult -.-
Are you radiant or dire?
And I guess there are dire town as well as radiant scum, right?
I liked Exo_s posts, but I don't necessarily know if claiming a healer is bad in this setup, since you might also somehow have to end up next to your heal-target on the list to actually heal. That might be hard without coordinating.
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Russian Federation59 Posts
Quick reminder again. Please send all questions to this account. Not the account how may have sent your role pm if it wasnt this account. This way it will ensure you get your questions answered as quickly as possible. Thanks.
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On October 20 2016 15:55 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 09:41 Bill Murray wrote:
Plus we can see who is gonna read ... or at least how many aren't I read your poll, but didn't vote. Does that screw things up?
me neither
But anyway, good morning. Most notable thing that happened is Iamperfection role fishing. He complains about his role needing healing. And then starts regarding about coordinating claims. So much angst about how to enter the thread he forgets that town way of killing scum is by lynching them. Scum are the ones that depend entirely on roles.
##unvote
##vote: Iamperfection
The WoS/ExO_ gives me a slight town read on Exo: scum reveal their revelations in scumchat. If he were scum and had uncovered a breadcrumb, he wouldn't be yelling so in the thread. It's also far less significant than he thinks. WoS could have been given any of the characters with a shadow (shaman, fiend, etc.) Or even wave (morphing). Still neutral on WoS: defense is not indicative of alignment.[/QUOTE]
Or QoP
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On October 20 2016 17:07 ptmc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 08:04 iamperfection wrote:
im reporting whatever host came up with my ult.
Looking at my role for me to be effective i'm gonna need some heals.
I have been struggling to think of which is the best way to approach this game with the ultra complicated roles like this. Usually i think town goes to willy nilly with information in these types of games but since our roles seems so complicated i feel some coordination is going to be needed to kill some scum. At least you got an ult -.- Are you radiant or dire? And I guess there are dire town as well as radiant scum, right? I liked Exo_s posts, but I don't necessarily know if claiming a healer is bad in this setup, since you might also somehow have to end up next to your heal-target on the list to actually heal. That might be hard without coordinating.
What bugs me about WoS is his response to my initial points, and his continued responses since then. He didn't try to explain anything. If he is the doctor, it would make sense that he would want to keep his mouth shut in reaction to my questioning, but by that same logic why would he even do a breadcrumb like that in the first place? It makes no sense.
In my opinion what he's doing is just trying to brush this all off. Look at the way he refuses to get involved in the discussion. Is that a town quality? Not in my opinion it isn't. He looks to me like he's waiting around for some other discussion to take over so he can fade into the background for a while.
To be honest the more I think about it the more I struggle with him. Because I can't see his play really making sense for any angle. My best guess and current interpretation is he's scum trying to set up some kind of fake doctor claim later on in the game, got called on it, and is now trying to keep post count up without helping town at all.
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I agree with that, yes. Imo, he should just have stuck with his claim and it might have been useful to town (if he is town). Like this, it definitely doesn't help town. I'm not sure if your idea of him wanting to use the doctor claim late game really was his reasoning, but I fail to see a good reasoning anyhow.
## Vote WaveofShadow
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I do want to know why WoS made a semi-claim. What was it supposed to accomplish?
But I don't have a scum read based on it. And Exo is way deep tunneling him. Step back, Exo, and look at other players for a bit. What do you think of Iamp? And BM's list?
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On October 20 2016 13:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right so, people who I haven't played with and thus don't want to bother with learning to read:
1 Tictock
5 Skynx
8 beentheredonethat
9 ExO_
10 Lunaticman
11 HamazuraXTakitsubo
12 Tubesock
16 Eversince
17 ptmc
18 Kurumiz
Please lynch someone from this list pls.
Why am I not on your list?
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On October 20 2016 11:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm honestly baffled anyone would think I'd come out and fully claim my role what, two hours into a heavily themed game with all sorts of shit flyin' around at any given moment?
I'm stunned speechless.
Silent, even.
Claim dazzle --> You might not be mafia. Even though softclaiming a healer is extremely mafia behavior.
Claim anything else --> You are mafia.
Atm I am going to think you are dazzle and you made this post to cover up your "stupidity".
If I have to explain myself:
Town!WoS sees his role have "wa
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Getting scum vibes off Koshi. Based on my recall from a 2-y.o. meta, that means he's probably town.
Also #dedgaem
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EBWOB (dnu why it posted it when I just alt tabbed):
Town!WoS sees his role have "wave of shadow" and happy as a child makes a post about it. Gets rekt by Exo and backtracks on his claim because he understands he made a mistake. Town!WoS clearly did not made the claim to bait scum shooting him. So being silly is the only acceptable explanation.
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On October 20 2016 18:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 11:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm honestly baffled anyone would think I'd come out and fully claim my role what, two hours into a heavily themed game with all sorts of shit flyin' around at any given moment?
I'm stunned speechless.
Silent, even. Claim dazzle --> You might not be mafia. Even though softclaiming a healer is extremely mafia behavior.
Yes, but might make sense with all other abilities and possible necessary coordination, that is not present in a regular game.
Claim anything else --> You are mafia.
which is what he did later
Atm I am going to think you are dazzle and you made this post to cover up your "stupidity".
what about where he started claiming "anything else"?
If I have to explain myself:
Town!WoS sees his role have "wa
i feel like somethings missing here
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Vote Count - Day 1
WaveofShadow (3): Exo_, Bill Murray, ptmc
Skynx (1): Koshi, Acrofales
iamperfection (1): Acrofales
ritoky (1): Holyflare
Not voted (18): Tictock, Rels, Vivax, Skynx, iamperfection, sicklucker, beentheredonethat, Lunaticman, HamazuraXTakitsubo, Tubesock, Eversince, Kurumi, ritoky, Hopeless1der, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow, GlowingBear, Lord Tolkien
It looks like WaveofShadow is about to be owned.
Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
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On October 20 2016 18:22 Acrofales wrote:
Getting scum vibes off Koshi. Based on my recall from a 2-y.o. meta, that means he's probably town.
Also #dedgaem
That doesn't make any sense.
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On October 20 2016 18:23 Koshi wrote:
EBWOB (dnu why it posted it when I just alt tabbed):
Town!WoS sees his role have "wave of shadow" and happy as a child makes a post about it. Gets rekt by Exo and backtracks on his claim because he understands he made a mistake. Town!WoS clearly did not made the claim to bait scum shooting him. So being silly is the only acceptable explanation.
But back-tracking serves nothing here. If he is dazzle and town, we have some very powerful abilities that we can use for the good of town. And even then, if he fails to help town with them (like we say grave a town-read guy with low hp or sth.) we can still lynch him as mafia.
Back-tracking just tries to take focus off of him for no reason imo.
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On October 20 2016 18:23 ptmc wrote:which is what he did later
Yeah, but he is probably just dazzle.
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On October 20 2016 18:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 18:22 Acrofales wrote:
Getting scum vibes off Koshi. Based on my recall from a 2-y.o. meta, that means he's probably town.
Also #dedgaem That doesn't make any sense.
maybe he always misreads you as town?
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On October 20 2016 18:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 18:23 ptmc wrote:
Claim anything else --> You are mafia.
which is what he did later Yeah, but he is probably just dazzle.
so why not stick to his claim?
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On October 20 2016 18:26 ptmc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 18:23 Koshi wrote:
EBWOB (dnu why it posted it when I just alt tabbed):
Town!WoS sees his role have "wave of shadow" and happy as a child makes a post about it. Gets rekt by Exo and backtracks on his claim because he understands he made a mistake. Town!WoS clearly did not made the claim to bait scum shooting him. So being silly is the only acceptable explanation.
But back-tracking serves nothing here. If he is dazzle and town, we have some very powerful abilities that we can use for the good of town. And even then, if he fails to help town with them (like we say grave a town-read guy with low hp or sth.) we can still lynch him as mafia. Back-tracking just tries to take focus off of him for no reason imo.
Somehow he prayed he could talk himself out of getting RB/Killed?
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On October 20 2016 18:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 18:22 Acrofales wrote:
Getting scum vibes off Koshi. Based on my recall from a 2-y.o. meta, that means he's probably town.
Also #dedgaem That doesn't make any sense.
Does too.
Town!koshi doesn't give a shit what he posts, he just wants to solve the game. Ends up posting weird insinuating crap that doesn't really help anybody.
Scum!koshi does give a shit about what he posts, and makes sure his posts are good quality.
Town!koshi looks like scum right from the start. Scum!koshi means I need a bit more time to figure out he's scum. Your pants on head post speculating about why WoS is scum unless he hard claims Dazzle right now is one of those posts that fits in the first bucket, not the second.
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