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NocturneMage
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On October 22 2016 09:48 Hopeless1der wrote: If I'm distracting you from catch up, ignore me. Its more important you get a full sense of the game than respond to me right now. eh, worlds is more of a problem than you right now. damn me. :/ | ||
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On October 22 2016 09:54 NocturneMage wrote: I'm not sure what arguments people were making on him regarding activity but I don't do meta on people that I've never played with before. just realised what I wrote doesn't really make sense ebwop - I'm not sure what other arguments besides meta people were making on him regarding activity, but I don't do meta on people that I've never played with before. | ||
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On October 22 2016 21:41 iamperfection wrote: Also guys the next lynch is vivax it's a no doubter 100% catching up from the high 40s plus several isolated filters. I'm fine with lynching vivax, but at this stage, I think koshi is mafia, and I think we have an added advantage of getting more information from a koshi lynch. koshi was the counterwagon too so voting analysis will sort out a lot of things with a koshi red flip. looking at koshi filter in isolation he does nothing with his kurumi and ritoky scum reads, and then final pages his voting progression is all over the place. if koshi somehow flips green, my next focus will be beentheredonethat and tubesock, both of whom switched between both wagons, should also probably take a look at people who were solo votes as well. | ||
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someone please read that filter and tell me it's NOT a steaming pile of shit, because it is. | ||
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On October 22 2016 09:26 NocturneMage wrote: skynx is also disjointed, and more specifically looking at his filter I don't like how he doesn't appear to follow up on his tubesock and bill murray reads when in his big list post he's showing he's the most stuck on them. generally lack of follow-through is mafia indicative. | ||
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observed that onegu 2 game where he did jack shit as town, he's making reads, but there's no follow through from him on queries on wave of shade and ritoky. I think glowingbear is a worthy investigative check. | ||
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he has some good thoughts around page 50, but the trolling to content ratio is just way too high and it becomes even more obvious when you isolate his filter. | ||
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On October 22 2016 22:29 iamperfection wrote: The goal is to get scum. Vivax is scum we kill him. I don't disagree, I am also scumreading vivax. but do you think koshi is town? if so why? if you think both are scum, what additional advantage/information are you giving town with a vivax lynch? because I don't remember anyone defending him. | ||
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On October 22 2016 22:36 iamperfection wrote: Because there is no doubt in my mind vivax is scum. Why are you against lynching scum? Lynching for information is stupid. Koshi is all over the place it's possible he is scum but my gut tells me no. the other option of course would be investigatives to check (or with a vigilante) take out Koshi and then vote down vivax. I'm not eliminating that. if you are thinking I'm against lynching vivax you clearly haven't read my filter. but even ignoring the votes, koshi is clearly mafia. if you're using some meta (that he's not playing out of town range) to gut defend him that's great, but clearly looking at how he's interacting with people even those not scumreading him, it's not giving me town vibes. like I'm trying to consider a world where a town koshi can go on tilt and just not give a fuck and I'm still not seeing town koshi either. anyways, moving on... | ||
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the little time I spent playing dota I generally stuck to casters, but I got annoyed with dota real quick. back to league I went. anyhow, back on topic... | ||
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I'm looking at my role pm. if I have a passive....I think it's safe to say a decent number might with all the dota champions out there. so people need to also look for a view where they are missing passives, and not that the person is necessarily lying. at least that's the impression I am getting from skimming all the movement/hp posts. just saying. now moving on... | ||
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On October 22 2016 23:58 GlowingBear wrote: Btw perfection seems townie to me GB when you can, mind giving us your top three scum reads? I don't have an idea where your head is at the moment. | ||
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On October 23 2016 00:27 Koshi wrote: I dont't trust NM. Going to call him scum. On October 23 2016 00:30 Koshi wrote: Like Skynx or Lunatic. So I'm scumreading vivacious and skybox and 50/50 on lunatic and you're calling me scum because you don't trust me. That's about as contrived as it gets. | ||
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Vivax and Skynx Anyhow that read is contrived. | ||
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On October 23 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote: Vigshots should go on Vivax/Sicklucker. Prots on btdt+ptmc. On October 23 2016 03:05 Skynx wrote: Yeah I disagree entirely. First of all I'm not sure why you all 100% sr Vivax, he's nothing more than a policy lynch, being inactive on purpose like 5-6 others I listed. He is an excellent vig target as D2 lynching him wouldn't be different that D1 where everyone is agreeing on the lynch because Vivax is bad and doesn't do shit but then switch to someone else cuz they are unsure. btdt and ptmc are like only top townies, not really up for discussion one of them is dead 100%. as pointed out by others these are all really bad posts by skynx along with the reads he threw out when he re-entered. not that that changes my read on him but still. the more he posts, the more I like tubesock as town as well. especially in the exchange with skynx. also on the topic of hopeless, I think he's wrong on Koshi and given his reads on others, he sounds towny, absent the modconfirm issue. and even in that, his train of thought made sense. lord tolkien had one post in his entire filter as to why he didn't like wave of shadow related to the voting. post was towny but rest of filter was not...ugh. | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:37 beentheredonethat wrote: Exactly that part, the "being extreme". Also it's useless to put pressure on Artanis given we have Koshi and Vivax as the go-to D2 wagons. HF was all about "yeah Koshi is bad" so why suddenly get a hard-on about Artanis? actually I disagree. I haven't looked hard at artanis yet myself, but I'm running on the assumption there are five, maybe six mafia players. there's no reason why people shouldn't try getting reactions and alignment reads or scumreads on people other than koshi and vivax. also caught up isolating filters. ignoring artanis who replaced in, somewhere in the pool of exo, bm, lord tolkien, kurumi and glowingbear, I'm willing to bet there's one mafia in there. they are all laying pretty damned low. On October 23 2016 02:44 GlowingBear wrote: I don't have scum reads. I've barely read the thread tbh. From times to times I come to the thread and try to get impressions from posts. I am a bit suspicious of Ritoky because Ritoky knows how my mind as mafia works and this is definitely not how I play as Mafia. But I don't have stronger grounds on him. Nothing really stands out as scummy from his posts. His gifs gave me a bad impression in the beginning of the game, but that is very weak to form a scumread on someone. In the other hand, Holyflare had the same impression as me, so a mindmeld occurred. That made me think Holyflare is town. I saw a genuine post from a guy that I forgot his username. I even quoted it. And now I think iamperfection comes from a very townie POV. So there's that. though gb admits he's not really reading and I can see gb pulling as town not playing like he didn't in the onegu game I observed, but that doesn't really make him town, just not out of his range. | ||
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On October 23 2016 05:43 beentheredonethat wrote: So basically, ritoky/NM/HF are trying to tell me I'm wrong on what I say about HF? won't speak for the others but I think you are reading/thinking too much into it for his alignment. | ||
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