EPTKoshi, is your double lynch gone?
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beentheredonethat
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Koshi, is your double lynch gone? | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:35 Koshi wrote: Well I figured that out. Was fun. imo kill Vivax/Luna first. Afterthat ritoky/sicklucker/skynx/Acro. the ones who don't die and don't have damage done to them. If sicklucker is town, he should check heroes for being full hp. Endgame it is up to people to find the mafia in LT/Hama and others. If WoS is mafia it is perfect for him that he can't post. I almost can't believe it lasts till forever. sicklucker probably knows it only last for 1 phase or so. Rupture isn't forever. I think sicklucker is town. What do you think about my reasoning, 1-3 pages ago? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On October 25 2016 19:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I'm confused. You think I hit you, am lying about it but also think I'm town? wut? Redirects are possible. However why do you think Koshi townreads you? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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That is not an Artanis townread. | ||
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Koshi Lunatic Skynx He says one mafia hides in the following players: Exo BM Tolkien Hamazura Kurumi GlowingBear 80% of his filter was about Koshi. I get paranoid about my townread again. If Koshi doesn't die this night AND if we get Vivax/Lunatic dead, I think Koshi is actually a good flip to gain information. I have reasons to townread Koshi and I stated them. On the other hand, the whole sudden passive thing is just matching too good. Also, a lot of people received 5 damage as others said. I'm really torn here. I think a Koshi flip is a good thing at this point, simply for "let's be sure" reasons. On the other hand, I don't want to waste his ability as I feel like a double lynch (town) is legit balance wise vs. a no lynch enforcement (scum). In a perfect world, we get Lunativ and Vivax killed this night, followed up by most likely losing town!Koshi. This would actually be great. To be honest, Koshi's passive is fun, but mine is even funnier. Attackers will have fun if they attack me this night  . | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Acro, ptmc, as you stay on a hard Koshi scumread, please elaborate in a big case post which we can evaluate. I am not able to put the work in right now as I'm on lunch break at work - and I'd really like to see where exactly there is inconsistency. Koshi, please put in the work and summarize in a clean and readable and insult-free post what exactly your passive is, who attacked you and claimed to have received 5 damage, and let me know why you were so shit D1. Please, Koshi, if you're town, don't refuse this. | ||
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This guy comes on my scum pile. Also, Skynx, as he dropped again under the radar and I cannot tell if he actually did something this game or not. He's absolutely unmemorable and I don't think that this is good. Dandel posted in a not-really-contributing way D2. Was happy with having voted and did some banter, including gems like "u fokkin wat mate??". Then, some sicklucker stuff, mainly about having two actions. Which actually is an interesting point. I can do one action per cycle. Sicklucker claims to have done two in one cycle? The more I hear about this guy the more I want him dead. He's just creating more and more confusion (nevertheless I think he's actually town). Well, Dandel... yeah, no, that's not enough for a town read. Bill Murray at this point goes on the "lynch/kill idc" pile, i.e. scum. Self-explanatory. Not participating at all, he should be modkilled as soon as possible. It's absolutely frustrating to have such players in a game where you put effort in. I still haven't got a final judgement of Artanis. It's interesting that he seemingly was fine with believing Koshi's claim D2 (telling me even that Koshi's rage is town indicative for him) yet he's neither hard defending nor is he pushing him. He's wishywashy at best at this point. Also, he's hard townreading ritoky for meta reasons which I absolutely do not like. Tubesock and Acro are in his "people-that-are-present-and-kinda-doing-things range" which he claims to be a town lean - and with that, he never looked into them again. Hard scumread on Vivax, soft defense on Lunatic, meta reasons again. Gets called out for that Lunatic meta read tho and gets proven wrong. Decides to townread Acro, puts Wave into the center of attention and townreads him, townreads Sicklucker, too. After all, his filter has a lot of reads which are kinda ballsy and not exactly thread-sentimenty. Artanis comes on the town pile now. ExO_ completely disappeared. Four pages of filter. Lynch or kill, who cares. There we go, scum list. Acro stays town. Another update: beentheredonethat Koshi sicklucker Artanis Acrofales Vivax Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo ritoky Skynx Bill Murray ExO_ 4 iamperfection 9 Dandel Ion 10 Koroko 13 Kurumi 14 Hopeless1der 17 Tubesock 19 GlowingBear 20 Lord Tolkien 22 WaveofShadow So far, so good. Lunch break over. Will look into the guys I haven't a clear read on. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On October 25 2016 20:03 ptmc wrote: I'm not scum-reading Koshi? I think he is more likely town but about to die soon. I also really dislike either acros posts or his reading comprehension. Bad reading comprehension on my part. I read "There's literally no consistency in it". But you wrote "There's literally no inconsistency in it". My bad. | ||
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On October 25 2016 20:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: Four possible explanations. I'm spoilering this because it's some people think speculating NK motives is scummy and I CANT TRY AND LOOK LIKE SCUM NOW CAN I. + Show Spoiler + 1) It's either they rolechecked him D1 (would make sense to rolecheck players-about-to-be-replaced D1 sorta), found out he's rolecop, and killed him 2) A good set of reads or something in his brief burst of N1 posts. 3) "player meta", either he's an infamously good town player or someone who's familiar with wanted him dead/thought he was a threat (former based on super quick game history suggests no [4 newbie+1 non-newbie mafia games], latter has GlowingBear [2 games and 2 coach], Artanis [2 co-host, 2 coach], ritoky [1 game] with prior history) 4) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ throw off town? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Unless we get at least one or two flips off on his scum reads it's really hard to say and I vote we don't try thinking about it too hard unless you want to go down the rabbit hole. Can't tell what I do not like about this post besides "everything" somehow. I can't get a grap on why exactly it's bad but I feel like it's bad. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On October 25 2016 20:03 Acrofales wrote: It's mod wifom. But I think it's probably true. And in response: Usually in themed games, this type of warnings and restrictions are given so that town can't use ability claims to break the game. It was triggered by ptmc, and thus ptmc is most likely town. Okay. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On October 25 2016 20:20 ptmc wrote: The Acro/Koshi interaction doesn't feel weird to you? I can not see where Acro's posts are coming from, except trying to paint Koshi in a bad light. It struck out to me as tunneling town acro but not scummy tbh. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On October 25 2016 20:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: @btdt I did not townread Acro or Tube for being in the "people-that-are-present-and-kinda-doing-things range". In fact, that was a reason to scumread them, but then I went into their filters and I didn't find them that scummy after all. I also think Koshi is still solidly town but he's doing weird shit. My read on Ritoky isn't quite that strong. I still think he's town but I wouldn't lose any sleep over him dying. Also, why are you putting SL up as townread whilst putting Dandel as null? What makes you more town on him than Dandel? Erm, you say literally that you town lean those Acro/Tube for exactly that reason. However later, you lool into Acro and say hes town. I think it's semantics here and we're talking about the same thing. In the end,youre town to me. SL: i explained my read some pages ago,quotinc on mobile is hard,please check fpr yourseöf. Dandel is not town to me. Pushed him d1 and hes being active but not contributing. I wouldn't say hes more or less town than sl as i am reading sl town for very specufic reason. Without that reason hed be black maybe even red in my list. | ||
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On October 25 2016 20:38 Acrofales wrote: You got me. The only reason I try to prick through bullshit is to make the bullshitter look bad. Or maybe I just couldn't understand Koshi's bizarro claim based on hot air and "winter wyvern" speculation. Guys, I took 7 damage on D1, and 10 damage on N1. The only way this makes sense is if I got hit by ExO_ the bristleback. THIS is the level of claim Koshi was making. Except it went further. When pointed to the fact that WW ulti working the way he had invented would hit Artanis and Dandel, not Artanis and Iamp, he assumed that there are special mechanics that apply to this specific ability. It is 9/11 truther level bullshit: Step 1: invent theory to explain X Step 2: find facts that match theory. ignore facts that don't match theory Step 3: ignore all other explanations Step 4 invent further nonsense to cover faults of theory in step 1. Does this make Koshi scum? No. This is just dumb. Koshi is scum for a whole host of other reasons independent of this nonsense. Will explain why later. It's lunchtime now. Exo hitting you worries me even further. | ||
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Potential scum, definitely. He didn't improve at all. | ||
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Final Vote Count - Day 1 Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Koshi (4): Lunaticman, Lunaticman (1): Vivax (2): Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow WaveofShadow (1): Dandel Ion (1): ritoky (1): Holyflare (1): HamazuraXTakitsubo (0): Rels (0): ptmc (0): Skynx (0): iamperfection (0): beentheredonethat (0): Hopeless1der (0): ExO_ (0): Kurumi (0): Not voted (2): Rels, Eversince, It looks like Tictock is about to be owned. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. With 0 votes removed: Tictock (8); Vivax, Holyflare, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Koshi (4): Lunaticman, Lunaticman (1): Vivax (2): Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow WaveofShadow (1): Dandel Ion (1): ritoky (1): [/blue] The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.[/b] | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On October 26 2016 01:06 Acrofales wrote: Read the thread back to front, you derpface. Your thoughts aren't original, because people have already pointed this out... So many people on 5 damage. Koshi, for how much exactly were you attacked? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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That makes a total of 7 votes that are outside of the main wagons, not committing to anything. People voting outside of wagons are: Hamazura, Hopeless1der, Acrofales, Kurumi, WaveOfShadow, ptmc, ExO_, Glowingbear. The thing is that we have literally 1, and only one confirmed town on the Tictock wagon. The other kill was a replacement that did not vote. ptmc, why did you stay on WoS during D1? Kurumi, WoS, why did you vote Lord Tolkien at that time? ExO_, why did you vote Dandel and rode it through although it was not happening? GB, why ritoky? Why not a main wagon? HamazuraXTakitsubo, why did you leave your vote on Lunaticman? Sadly, only ptmc and maybe WoS will probably answer those questions as the rest is afk, not interested, or scum. | ||
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