??
Lower activity this time trying some new meta excuse :D
Forum Index > TL Mafia |
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
?? Lower activity this time trying some new meta excuse :D | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On September 24 2016 19:41 Holyflare wrote: This will be a game where either good people roll mafia and lose or bad people roll mafia and lose. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Also think you should eliminate some of those op setups. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 04 2016 09:02 Calix wrote: Palmar claiming I am totally obvious mafia but doesn't vote me. Noted. NU still not trying to do anything and just waffles on about some semi-related bullshit. Noted. Going to disappear until someone relevant turns up. I'm relevant. ##vote calix | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Do something useful plzzz. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Otherwise you are madia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 04 2016 19:35 Holyflare wrote: Point out to me where he does this on your site and tries to abuse role pms to get mod confirmed and I'll believe you. Otherwise you are madia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
If it's a rule on your site he knows not to abuse it. It's also a rule here, why does he choose to do something that skates the rules so blatantly? He either has the role pm wording issues that he thought he could post and skirt the rules or he's lying and mafia. I'm going to ignore it like koshi said but it's there and it's bad that you're pushing it when it's most likely a town inquisitive post. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
You said he does this play on your site and it's his mafia meta to do so. Prove he does or die. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Don't dodge it please, chop chop. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Mafia don't know or can't know there's words or anything in a pm or whatever that can prove you're town. NU makes a play like that. Either he's done something similar in a previous game or something like this where he's abused knowledge he can't have and he's been mafia or he's flat out town. Koshi has said something else that's "validated" the wording point too. Your push is completely bull shit. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 04 2016 20:04 Koshi wrote: Just proof that he has done it in the past. ANYTHING similar will do even. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 03:42 Damdred wrote: And hf push on calix really wasn't that bad so kind if just want to take him off the table today and it was kind of a weak Poe anyway. But I'd like to leave him there so he won't ignore me this game. But on another note- <3 you town jat On October 05 2016 03:34 Damdred wrote: Stutters Bats Super Hf Is my scum pool currently. I'm somewhat more confident in almost everyone else being town. It's like one of the first things to happen in this game, how on earth do I end up in a poe when you LIKE it??? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Grack says smart things sometimes, grack has only come in to post 0 smart things. Die. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 02:40 Superbia wrote: As I've said before, the Calix/NU thing is the most interesting thing so far. You've danced around alignments like a ballerina. Your push on Palmar was decent and founded. Palmar has shown up and done somewhat okay shit. What now Marv? On October 05 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 04:38 justanothertownie wrote: On October 05 2016 04:38 Superbia wrote: On October 05 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote: I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum. You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept. I am? I evaluated on the NU/Calix fight. I also (tried to) start(ed) pressure on HF/Palmar. I for one have 0 idea why you seem to think that fight was interesting at all. Because HF jumped hard on Calix and people agreed? And I think it's likely to be TvT? People agree with my push on calix. My push is founded in logic. I'm your unexplained mafia read despite you acknowledging people agree with my push. You also said palmar did acceptable shit. You have 0 mafia in your scum reads. Get to the explaining part or also die. Your whine is so ridiculous and looks extremely forced. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 04:43 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 04:41 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Grackaroni Grack says smart things sometimes, grack has only come in to post 0 smart things. Die. What about Calix? I vote for the people I want to vote for. Her nu push is still bull shit but it could still be her being bad. I've not hated some recent posts but we'll see. On October 05 2016 04:49 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 04:47 Holyflare wrote: On October 05 2016 02:40 Superbia wrote: As I've said before, the Calix/NU thing is the most interesting thing so far. You've danced around alignments like a ballerina. Your push on Palmar was decent and founded. Palmar has shown up and done somewhat okay shit. What now Marv? On October 05 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote: On October 05 2016 04:38 justanothertownie wrote: On October 05 2016 04:38 Superbia wrote: On October 05 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote: I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum. You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept. I am? I evaluated on the NU/Calix fight. I also (tried to) start(ed) pressure on HF/Palmar. I for one have 0 idea why you seem to think that fight was interesting at all. Because HF jumped hard on Calix and people agreed? And I think it's likely to be TvT? People agree with my push on calix. My push is founded in logic. I'm your unexplained mafia read despite you acknowledging people agree with my push. You also said palmar did acceptable shit. You have 0 mafia in your scum reads. Get to the explaining part or also die. Your whine is so ridiculous and looks extremely forced. Are all those people town then, HF? Where the mafia at? Don't be obtuse I'm talking from your perspective. You have two scum reads and now you should have 0 according to your posts (palmar posting not shit and me saying smart things) yet you're complaining that people are scum reading you when you've literally explained nothing and have no reads. Explain your read or die. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 04:58 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 04:55 Holyflare wrote: On October 05 2016 04:43 Superbia wrote: On October 05 2016 04:41 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Grackaroni Grack says smart things sometimes, grack has only come in to post 0 smart things. Die. What about Calix? I vote for the people I want to vote for. Her nu push is still bull shit but it could still be her being bad. I've not hated some recent posts but we'll see. On October 05 2016 04:49 Superbia wrote: On October 05 2016 04:47 Holyflare wrote: On October 05 2016 02:40 Superbia wrote: As I've said before, the Calix/NU thing is the most interesting thing so far. You've danced around alignments like a ballerina. Your push on Palmar was decent and founded. Palmar has shown up and done somewhat okay shit. What now Marv? On October 05 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote: On October 05 2016 04:38 justanothertownie wrote: On October 05 2016 04:38 Superbia wrote: On October 05 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote: I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum. You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept. I am? I evaluated on the NU/Calix fight. I also (tried to) start(ed) pressure on HF/Palmar. I for one have 0 idea why you seem to think that fight was interesting at all. Because HF jumped hard on Calix and people agreed? And I think it's likely to be TvT? People agree with my push on calix. My push is founded in logic. I'm your unexplained mafia read despite you acknowledging people agree with my push. You also said palmar did acceptable shit. You have 0 mafia in your scum reads. Get to the explaining part or also die. Your whine is so ridiculous and looks extremely forced. Are all those people town then, HF? Where the mafia at? Don't be obtuse I'm talking from your perspective. You have two scum reads and now you should have 0 according to your posts (palmar posting not shit and me saying smart things) yet you're complaining that people are scum reading you when you've literally explained nothing and have no reads. Explain your read or die. I'll see what happens with your grack push. I don't hate the direction. I'll also see how Palmar does now that he's active. Explain Your Read | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 05:30 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 05:13 Damdred wrote: @Batsnack how am I just trying to jump on people who are gathering steam when u was one of the firsts to scum read you essentially? Which you are still super sideline atm not even really interested in making conclusions on super vs everyone atm? I think superbia is frustrated town would seem consistent with his play the rest of today. He threw out HF and Palmar as names initially and didn't want to explain why for fear of critical people, critical people end up barking at him anyway which is totally his fault but his reactions check out. I thought marv and superbia were equally obtuse to each other earlier marv was just better at spinning it and it got exacerbated by the fact that superbia was being difficult prior. Ok you can be 1000% mafia | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
That post was outrageously tmi. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 05:37 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote: There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine. That post was outrageously tmi. He whined about needing to stay on the sidelines presumably because of the bad critical people, he dropped two names but was apprehensive to provide reasoning because omg critical people again, and then he got super frustrated when after he finally opens up the thread runs a train on him. I don't think this story is that outrageous. And that's where you assume bull shit. Why can't he just give reasons for his reads? Why is his read me when he acknowledged everyone agreed with my points and EVEN calix agreed. Nobody knows, he doesn't even know. He's "pushed" nothing unless you think dropping some names and pushing marv to comment is anything. Simply put you assume far far far too much and it looks 100% like you know his alignment. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 06:07 Holyflare wrote: Did batsnacks get amnesia? Has he forgotten that tl mafia is full of ego arses? Nope just mafia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Play amongst yourselves. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 06:39 NeverUnlucky wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote: There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine. That post was outrageously tmi. I think Superbia is town. Yes and that is why I am voting batsnacks. *clap clap* | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
It's called playing mafia, you should try it bro. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Batsnacks's post was ridiculously scummy. If I have anything of a town read on Superbia it's directly related to batsnacks and Superbia's reactions afterwards. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Genius I know. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 06:50 NeverUnlucky wrote: Batsnacks is also town. Explain plz. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
She plays incredibly defensive so pushing her will hinder amy chance of getting a better read. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 15:25 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 15:22 Holyflare wrote: I haven't dropped my calix push, she still could be mafia but I've dropped it to see what she does and push other scummy things. She plays incredibly defensive so pushing her will hinder amy chance of getting a better read. Like pushing me for being useless. I'm not seeing how that's more useful when I don't think it's particularly alignment indicative. As Damdred said my scum play is probably better than my town play. You think being useless is the stellar town play we need? No, pathetic. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Jat still could be mafia but everytime i open his filter i fall asleep. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Koshi could legitimately be mafia too but we'll see. I think palmar is possibly town for sharing koshi sentiment of koshi being shitty but is it scummy koshi. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Anyway, I don't like that jat's only vote is palmar. He's been far too conservative. He did some weird batsnacks defence and then found out he didn't realise what batsnacks did post but still defended him anyway and then when batsnacks gets called out jat says he looks bad but doesn't shift his vote. If he admits that palmar doing not much isn't really indicative (he says to marv that palmar isn't scummy for it) then his vote should be on the people he is actually calling scummy but it's not. He doesn't really have scum reads and the only time he does mention scum reads really is to agree with a damdred list. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
It's weird because: A) it's really the only person jat has called out the entire game. B) he ignored scummy things going on for it. C) he knows stutters is a lurker and doesn't post much Looked really forced read. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 04 2016 20:36 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 19:02 Calix wrote: He was pretty lurkish, unresponsive and making terrible posts in the last game we were in and he was town so not sure how AI that is for him. Will keep your point in mind though. He is indeed known to lurk and I of course remember that. But especially as a low volume poster your posts should have a purpose. I don't see him getting anywhere or actually being interested in what he says. He does know he lurks. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 16:10 Calix wrote: Hello hi. Have only skimmed the thread at the moment. I've yet to see a case that overwhelms the evidence against batsnacks so my vote stays with him. A lot of people are trying to throw up "XYZ is useless" and "this minor point looks funny" as if said points are worth lynching for. Not impressed. I can see a batsnacks/ JAT team due to JAT trying to defend him when I first brought up batsnacks and then hedging back on that. Didn't feel genuine. Examples being? Also i just read jat's filter and the end is all jat basically calling bs mafia with no hint of even saying he's mafia and no vote. Pretty bad. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
I did skip over like 3/4 of the game toooooo so there's that | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 04 2016 20:44 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 20:42 marvellosity wrote: On October 04 2016 20:38 Superbia wrote: General complaint: I agree that this PM shit is really really fucking dumb. The fact that people are already drawing conclusions based on someone who claims he can be mod confirmed is also really fucking dumb. Like conjecture regarding PMs is already happening. This why you never bring this shit up. You're either soft claiming a role or you're really talking about again-the-rules shit like an absolute dumb ass. Either way it's fucking dumb because people are now talking about PMs and inferring based on it. I wanted a nice, high-level game. Not PM garbage. Thx4listening. yes, unfortunately i did read this completely unnecessary pointless post. It's content is pointless. The hostile/aggressive attitude on the other hand is somewhat interesting. Town read on Superbia above. Only ever mention or interaction with Superbia until I started pushing him below. On October 05 2016 02:55 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 02:40 Superbia wrote: As I've said before, the Calix/NU thing is the most interesting thing so far. You've danced around alignments like a ballerina. Your push on Palmar was decent and founded. Palmar has shown up and done somewhat okay shit. What now Marv? How is it the most interesting thing? I think it is pretty boring. Also your scumreads were Palmar and HF earlier and at least palmar can't be because of nu/calix, right? Doesn't add up. On October 05 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote: I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum. You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept. That is quite clearly not a push by any stretch of the imagination. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 18:17 Calix wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 18:12 Holyflare wrote: Calix can you give me a rundown of your scum reads and why in some short sentences? Pointless question, given that I have literally said "batsnacks and JAT are in cahoots" I don't have a third full-on scum-read. I just think that this group [Koshi/ Palmar/ HF/ Stutters] have scum among them. So I just bussed my entire team pointlessly despite you seeing me write in your last game how shit bussing day 1 is..........?????????????????????? ????? ???? ..???..? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Completely bull shit. I don't believe you ever write me in a list when I've only pushed the people you are scum reading. Bad bad bad. Have some arbitrary +mafia points. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 18:24 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 18:21 Holyflare wrote: On October 05 2016 18:17 Calix wrote: On October 05 2016 18:12 Holyflare wrote: Calix can you give me a rundown of your scum reads and why in some short sentences? Pointless question, given that I have literally said "batsnacks and JAT are in cahoots" I don't have a third full-on scum-read. I just think that this group [Koshi/ Palmar/ HF/ Stutters] have scum among them. So I just bussed my entire team pointlessly despite you seeing me write in your last game how shit bussing day 1 is..........?????????????????????? ????? ???? ..???..? Don't let this convince you. He has bussed on day1 countless times. In my last game (which I mentioned quite a few times by now) he bussed superbia day1 and that is only one example. Fortunately I am not mafia. Yes but that's not my point fuck wit. Calix is new, she only sees what I write and from the limited amount of games I've played. The last newbie game I wrote a guide about bussing and optimal strategy and condemned them for bussing day 1. Calix agrees with every single one of my pushes, even the one on herself. Calix should be town reading me pretty hard but I'm in a list of mafia "in case the flips go wrong". That's flat out bull. If it goes wrong she's STILL been agreeing with me at every point in the game. Ridiculous. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
It's an extremely good reason to flip. Entirely great. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Marv has been his usual self but he's like that as mafia and he picked up on an inconsistency from nu and dropped it and it seemef weird as fuck. His other push has just been palmar into batsnacks which I don't hate but it's easy reads. Damd underwhelming. Palmar done nothing,wants to figure me out and fucks off, wouldn't surprise me. Superbia whining bitch, completely different play. Jat underwhelming but whatever I always think that Oats i didn't actually hate his play but his votes are so irrelevant and he doesn't do much, wouldn't surprise me. Calix just put me in a list and had a terrible start, probably mafia or something. Nu only a town read because he tried to abuse the game otherwise inconsistent as fuck and wouldn't actually surprise me if mafia. Stutters more like mutters because that's how much presence he has. Koshi dead. Bats is robot who tmis on strange things. Grack makes people push his read and disappeared without really discussing it. None of you would be surprising as mafia. That's poor. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
She backed down on the nu thing, she's not really pushing much, she's got hidden things like "oh i town read grack for silly things etc" that aren't fleshed out, she's forgotten reads multiple times and she put me in a mafia list when I shouldn't ever be there if she's thinking logically. There's a big lapse in logic and a lot of barking imo. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote: NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo. re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. All of those pushes were bad apart from the Superbia and batsnacks one which other people are pushing instead. You're supposed to be town leaders-y and you seem more reactive. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Batsnacks come back. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 00:03 Calix wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote: On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote: NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo. re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. All of those pushes were bad apart from the Superbia and batsnacks one which other people are pushing instead. You're supposed to be town leaders-y and you seem more reactive. Your argument was that I hadn't been really pushing anyone. I refute this point. You change the argument to "Calix's pushes are bad" Your last line is a terrible attempt at a meta-read. There is no One True Way for me to play and you have no idea how I 'usually' play given that you've seen me in ONE game. Thing is I don't care. Maybe my original post should have been "calix has only pushed dumb shit all game and been reactive" instead. Yes, I think I'm ninja editing it to that instead. I don't care if you're the meta God I know your ego type like the back of my hand, you don't like being wrong, you like being right, other people are pretty dumb. I know your pushes look shitty to me and that's what I'm sticking with. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 00:09 Calix wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 00:03 Calix wrote: On October 06 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote: On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote: NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo. re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. All of those pushes were bad apart from the Superbia and batsnacks one which other people are pushing instead. You're supposed to be town leaders-y and you seem more reactive. Your argument was that I hadn't been really pushing anyone. I refute this point. You change the argument to "Calix's pushes are bad" Your last line is a terrible attempt at a meta-read. There is no One True Way for me to play and you have no idea how I 'usually' play given that you've seen me in ONE game. Thing is I don't care. Maybe my original post should have been "calix has only pushed dumb shit all game and been reactive" instead. Yes, I think I'm ninja editing it to that instead. I don't care if you're the meta God I know your ego type like the back of my hand, you don't like being wrong, you like being right, other people are pretty dumb. I know your pushes look shitty to me and that's what I'm sticking with. Question. How can my all of my pushes look shitty when you're voting for the same person I am? Why are you not trying harder to sort out myself/ batsnacks when we're clearly not on the same team? What does my 'ego type' have to do with anything? If you make a list of your pushes and two of them are bad and the other two other people have started (myself basically) then the only pushes you have made yourself are crap and the other two are REACTIVE based on the sentiment of the thread. Basically your posts seem entirely reactive and contain a plethora of things to assuage other people's fears. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 00:21 Calix wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 00:17 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 00:09 Calix wrote: On October 06 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 00:03 Calix wrote: On October 06 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote: On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote: NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo. re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. All of those pushes were bad apart from the Superbia and batsnacks one which other people are pushing instead. You're supposed to be town leaders-y and you seem more reactive. Your argument was that I hadn't been really pushing anyone. I refute this point. You change the argument to "Calix's pushes are bad" Your last line is a terrible attempt at a meta-read. There is no One True Way for me to play and you have no idea how I 'usually' play given that you've seen me in ONE game. Thing is I don't care. Maybe my original post should have been "calix has only pushed dumb shit all game and been reactive" instead. Yes, I think I'm ninja editing it to that instead. I don't care if you're the meta God I know your ego type like the back of my hand, you don't like being wrong, you like being right, other people are pretty dumb. I know your pushes look shitty to me and that's what I'm sticking with. Question. How can my all of my pushes look shitty when you're voting for the same person I am? Why are you not trying harder to sort out myself/ batsnacks when we're clearly not on the same team? What does my 'ego type' have to do with anything? If you make a list of your pushes and two of them are bad and the other two other people have started (myself basically) then the only pushes you have made yourself are crap and the other two are REACTIVE based on the sentiment of the thread. Basically your posts seem entirely reactive and contain a plethora of things to assuage other people's fears. Even if we disregard two pushes of mine which I started, I was the first person to make a case against batsnacks. In literally no universe does your narrative of "Calix is entirely reactive" hold. You are just making up bullshit at this point. Read the thread and stop talking out of your arse. Then why are you the last person to vote on batsnacks? Why is jat and batsnacks a team but then if batsnacks is mafia grackaroni is ALSO part of that team while On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote: On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote: Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'. I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. he doesn't appear in your list of scum reads at all initially: On October 05 2016 18:17 Calix wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 18:12 Holyflare wrote: Calix can you give me a rundown of your scum reads and why in some short sentences? Pointless question, given that I have literally said "batsnacks and JAT are in cahoots" I don't have a third full-on scum-read. I just think that this group [Koshi/ Palmar/ HF/ Stutters] have scum among them. You think batsnacks is mafia. It's incredibly weird that you think jat is mafia for all of this association bs but then have grack as a "town lean" but he's probably mafia if batsnacks is mafia. It doesn't make sense in the slightest. All I did was ask you for a list of scum reads but then when I called you out on your bs reads that you can't possibly make you backtrack and say it's a list of people if your reads are WRONG. That's not what I asked for at all, it's scummy as shit, it's another inconstancy with the reads that you don't remember. Furthermore, you haven't expressed the majority of these reads. You tell me that your pushes are Superbia and Batsnacks but your read on me is entirely unqualified. I made good pushes/cases on both of these people and they are both people that you want to lynch and think are mafia. If I ask a person for a mafia read and they give me a list of people that "oh if i'm wrong these people are mafia maybe" then that's fucking dirty and scummy. If a person is asked about a possible world where someone is mafia and that world is the world that already exists in that persons mind why do they say the opposite? I'll give you the answer, it's because that person is mafia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Calix has a scum read on Bats. Calix has a scum read on JAT for association and some minor point which she was told is wrong so it's really association. Calix is asked what Grack's alignment is and says if Bats is mafia Grack is mafia. ^^^^^^^^^ the above is a lapse in logic because she's never mentioned that before at all and she "town leans" grack which means her bats read is either: A) faked B) knows it's a town flip tl:dr part 2: Calix admits that she's pushed nu/oats (bad pushes) and followed on the pushes of superbia/bats (also my pushes) yet when I asked her to make a scum list she randomly spouts off extra names of: Koshi/Palmar/HF/Stutters. Calix gets called out on this bull shit list and she in fact says it's a "if bats doesn't flip mafia" list. ^^^^^ the above is a lapse in logic because she didn't get asked for that, it doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense at all to make a list of "if my two mafia reads are wrong" list when asked for the reasons she is scum reading someone. tl:dr part 3: her nu read was complete bull shit at the time, it had no evidence to back it up conclusion: mafia | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
(it might be slightly based on this) | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Why? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 02:10 NeverUnlucky wrote: Déjà vu... Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 23:49 Calix wrote: I'm going out in ~30 minutes, going to be out for a few hours and then I'm in for the evening. Generally my schedule is light because I'm at uni but today is busy for me so I might not get back before you leave. Your schedule is light because you study english Also stop being bad remember who he voted for last time day 1? that was mafia! | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 02:37 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2016 22:42 justanothertownie wrote: On October 05 2016 22:39 Calix wrote: On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote: On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote: On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote: On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote: Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'. I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all. What? This has nothing to do with you. He's asking how my opinion of Grack would change depending on what Bat flipped. I responded with "Grack could be a potential partner if Bat is scum but I don't think he's done anything scummy at the moment" I don't even get what your argument is here. Your whole scumread on me hinges on bats being scum. And now if someone asks you what you think of grack if bats flips scum you say: "he might be scum because he pushed JAT instead of bats"? Like what? Can somebody tell me if this is 100% true? it's 100% true | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 02:37 Calix wrote: Despite the fact that nobody can show town motivation for his posts, batsnacks has had a line of defenders who will focus on anyone else but batsnacks. He was coasting by without a single comment until I spotted him. He managed to get defended based on meta and my initial case on him was largely ignored. If he was bad town, that initial case would have met with FAR MORE support than it did. Now he's being chainsaw-defended by HF and JAT who have taken to attacking batsnacks' most vocal accuser. Note that NEITHER of them have explained how they town-read batsnacks. HF has said that he scum-reads batsnacks, yet he switches to me without a single comment explaining how his read has changed. (hint: said read 'progression' happened without batsnacks posting a single fucking thing) I won't claim that I haven't been defended, but the people defending me have stated town-reads on myself. They are not automatically assuming that XYZ are scum purely for attacking me. These are traits that are lacking in the push against me. My lynch is being pushed with far more conviction than batsnacks' is. That should tell you something. Here's the thing you need to learn. I don't care about associations, I don't care about teams that work together, I don't care who has pushed who. The simplest most honest thing I do is pushing things that I think are complete bull shit. Your vote on batsnacks was LAST on his wagon and you keep going on about how it's you and him and it must be you and him or whatever, you forgot your own reads, you didn't even post a list of scum reads when I asked you. I think your play has been super subpar compared to what I saw last game. So what if you even pushed batsnacks? You have outrageously bad thought patterns in YOUR filter. Batsnacks is still also scummy and I don't really care that you pushed him. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 02:53 Koshi wrote: HF can you explain to me why you stopped putting pressure on JAT and went full out against Calix for that 1 post? because I remembered that I always scum read jat for playing like shit and I didn't mind his responses and I weigh someone scum reading me when they agree with everything I pushed way more likely mafia than anything else and all I did was ask for her scum reads and what i got instead was a "if my two scum reads AREN'T mafia then there's mafia in this pool" post instead of actual list of scum reads and reasons and my name was in the list which is bs. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 02:58 Holyflare wrote: honestly don't care who we lynch as long as it's into stutters/superbia/bats/possiblycalixbutmaybenot/palmar/jat | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:00 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 02:56 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 02:53 Koshi wrote: On October 06 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote: I'm up for a superbia shenanigan HF can you explain to me why you stopped putting pressure on JAT and went full out against Calix for that 1 post? because I remembered that I always scum read jat for playing like shit and I didn't mind his responses and I weigh someone scum reading me when they agree with everything I pushed way more likely mafia than anything else and all I did was ask for her scum reads and what i got instead was a "if my two scum reads AREN'T mafia then there's mafia in this pool" post instead of actual list of scum reads and reasons and my name was in the list which is bs. Sounds pretty cheap. How can you turn vs Calix and join JAT for that? Calix is very obvious town for me. because then she also forgot her jat read and made some bull shit grack post | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:00 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 03:00 Koshi wrote: On October 06 2016 02:56 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 02:53 Koshi wrote: On October 06 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote: I'm up for a superbia shenanigan HF can you explain to me why you stopped putting pressure on JAT and went full out against Calix for that 1 post? because I remembered that I always scum read jat for playing like shit and I didn't mind his responses and I weigh someone scum reading me when they agree with everything I pushed way more likely mafia than anything else and all I did was ask for her scum reads and what i got instead was a "if my two scum reads AREN'T mafia then there's mafia in this pool" post instead of actual list of scum reads and reasons and my name was in the list which is bs. Sounds pretty cheap. How can you turn vs Calix and join JAT for that? Calix is very obvious town for me. because then she also forgot her jat read and made some bull shit grack post On October 06 2016 01:20 Holyflare wrote: tl:dr; Calix has a scum read on Bats. Calix has a scum read on JAT for association and some minor point which she was told is wrong so it's really association. Calix is asked what Grack's alignment is and says if Bats is mafia Grack is mafia. ^^^^^^^^^ the above is a lapse in logic because she's never mentioned that before at all and she "town leans" grack which means her bats read is either: A) faked B) knows it's a town flip tl:dr part 2: Calix admits that she's pushed nu/oats (bad pushes) and followed on the pushes of superbia/bats (also my pushes) yet when I asked her to make a scum list she randomly spouts off extra names of: Koshi/Palmar/HF/Stutters. Calix gets called out on this bull shit list and she in fact says it's a "if bats doesn't flip mafia" list. ^^^^^ the above is a lapse in logic because she didn't get asked for that, it doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense at all to make a list of "if my two mafia reads are wrong" list when asked for the reasons she is scum reading someone. tl:dr part 3: her nu read was complete bull shit at the time, it had no evidence to back it up conclusion: mafia I also don't care if it's cheap it was bad on her part | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:01 Calix wrote: Is it just me or is HF being weirdly hesitant with some of his reads? I'll filter-dive later to see if this impression holds but his "calixbutmaybenot" inclusion pings me. His apathy over the lynch is concerning me. is hesitance over lynching you a bad thing or what? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 03:00 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 03:00 Koshi wrote: On October 06 2016 02:56 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 02:53 Koshi wrote: On October 06 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote: I'm up for a superbia shenanigan HF can you explain to me why you stopped putting pressure on JAT and went full out against Calix for that 1 post? because I remembered that I always scum read jat for playing like shit and I didn't mind his responses and I weigh someone scum reading me when they agree with everything I pushed way more likely mafia than anything else and all I did was ask for her scum reads and what i got instead was a "if my two scum reads AREN'T mafia then there's mafia in this pool" post instead of actual list of scum reads and reasons and my name was in the list which is bs. Sounds pretty cheap. How can you turn vs Calix and join JAT for that? Calix is very obvious town for me. because then she also forgot her jat read and made some bull shit grack post Sure felt like you pushing mafia agenda. A lot. I literally do not care. It was terrible. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:03 Calix wrote: Uh yes. You have this case which you think makes me mafia and which you haven't given a town explanation for and which the only thing you have said in my favour is "she could be bad". Why the fuck would you be hesitant over my lynch? because your ranting and whining exudes an air of towniness? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:05 Calix wrote: I'm sorry, I thought that my giant ego was because of my personality because I'm so similar to you, right? You're exactly like me and I would rant and whine in the same situation, yes. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:08 justanothertownie wrote: I think I will vote superbia for basically giving this game the middle finger while being heavily suspected. yes superbia's play is worse than batsnacks because batsnacks actually posted something and had A read superbia got town read and fucked off after giving no real reads other than hf/palmar based on a conclusion that didn't make sense ^ i also saw superbia sign up to the dota game and post nothing in this thread | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:08 Holyflare wrote: batsnacks is that guy from a game where he does everything mafia-y under the sun but at the time you read his contentless posts they come across towny, that's the only problem I have with him not being mafia because I think he could very well be mafia that's how | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:22 Calix wrote: I think lynching among JAT/ HF/ batsnacks is way more likely to hit multiple scum. Better return. You don't agree? no I don't agree at all | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:23 Koshi wrote: Also HF just sheeping me here feels just too good to be true. I can explain it if you want. I am struggling to get town reads and think you're quite good at getting town reads and you seemed pretty confident/towny on your entry. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:45 Calix wrote: Fuck Palmar, what about JAT? Has he even done anything townie this game aside from compare himself to his town games? I looked at Palmar's filter and he actually has some okayish posts in there. I'm not saying that they're amazing contributions - we're talking about the Town Tard here - but there is some effort there imo. This is well within jat's town range. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 03:48 Calix wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 03:46 Koshi wrote: On October 06 2016 03:45 Calix wrote: Fuck Palmar, what about JAT? Has he even done anything townie this game aside from compare himself to his town games? I looked at Palmar's filter and he actually has some okayish posts in there. I'm not saying that they're amazing contributions - we're talking about the Town Tard here - but there is some effort there imo. Palmar is not the Town Tard. He was voted best player in 2015 or something and he actually finds mafia. This game he is calling you mafia 24/7 without reasoning. Why are you even defending him? 1. My scum-reads have either voted for him or have voted for him in the past. 2. His train is not being challenged by anyone else but myself and I know I'm town. 3. Basically it reminds me of a mislynch in my first game and I don't want the same mistake to happen if Palmar is town. your scum read is bat or jat, neither are here i'm not mafia | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 04:35 batsnacks wrote: I think this is a great lynch and not just for self preservation purposes! It is bad that as soon as I intercepted all the heat he was getting he left. Or Damdred for real but you town read superbia and still did afterwards??? why can't he just be afk? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 04:38 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 04:35 batsnacks wrote: On October 06 2016 04:29 Holyflare wrote: can we lynch superbia now :D? I think this is a great lynch and not just for self preservation purposes! It is bad that as soon as I intercepted all the heat he was getting he left. Or Damdred for real but you town read superbia and still did afterwards??? why can't he just be afk? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 04:52 batsnacks wrote: I don't know what palmar needs to do to be scummy or what scum palmar is like that's sort of an unreasonable question. Post why palmar is scummy I'll tel you if I agree sorry if you already did and I missed it. Superbia could be afk I have no way of knowing. i do know that he disappeared after I inherited his pressure. But he was your town read why are you ok lynching him | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 05:09 Koshi wrote: There hasn't been any pressure on anybody this game. Not even me and I was gone for like 40 hours U lie i pressurez lots | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 05:14 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 05:13 Holyflare wrote: I still wouldn't be surprised if marv was mafia. I am confused why koshi rolled over when he returned and said calox was mafia-y What did I do? You said my push on calix was bad and looked mafia orientated. Marv comes back and agrees with push and you didn't say shit. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 05:37 Palmar wrote: I'm not dying for bats btw, I'm 100% voting him if it comes to it Just what a mafia palmar would say | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 05:39 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 05:38 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 05:37 Palmar wrote: I'm not dying for bats btw, I'm 100% voting him if it comes to it Just what a mafia palmar would say | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 05:42 Palmar wrote: actually that post makes hf 100% mafia I'm extremely glad you spent this game trying to figure me out. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 05:48 Palmar wrote: Holyflare doesn't use fake reasons to push people Voting my counterwagon is optimal play if I'm town or mafia. I stated I would do so, it's NAI HF thinks I would only do it as mafia, he doesn't actually believe that because he's not stupid. Thus he's mafia. QED. Holy shit hyper sensitivity to jokes, it is mafia palmar. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 05:51 Calix wrote: HF, did you seriously just use the "it's a joke guise" retort? Eww. Why would I have to retort something so dumb? It clearly was 100% a joke?????? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Get on palmar. Now now now. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 05:54 Grackaroni wrote: I'm all for killing Palmar and then sneakily pushing the blame on to HF if it fails. Please do. That was an atrocious post. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 05:55 Calix wrote: Let's just stick with the simplest option and not give a shit about your childish prancing around, shall we? I like that option better. No fuck off. Palmar is mafia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
He said he was spending this game figuring me out, didn't. He hasn't done anything. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Nobody accuses town batsnacks of defending Superbia and then defends palmar that hard unless they are mafia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 18:41 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 18:39 Holyflare wrote: You think he's mafia and doesn't vote to save himself? I think that's bull shit unless his entire team was on batsnacks and even then I think it's incredibly unlikely. Actually if Palmar is mafia then it'd way more likely a team mate would be on him because of the switch vote power. And then they played it ridiculously close and didn't switch at all? I don't think so in the slightest. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Palmar is saying marv is mafia. I don't think a town marv would let this happen in the slightest if palmar was mafia. There's a distinct lack of ego or even fighting talk. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 20:26 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 18:39 Holyflare wrote: Marv is incredibly apathetic/probably mafia. still don't understand how you can think this given the last game we played together seriously blows my mind. ????? Because last time you basically didn't play at all. This game has some comments and like i said about bats, weird things you aren't picking up on. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 20:35 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 20:34 Holyflare wrote: Why would mafia palmar not vote to save himself? he didn't need to?? like palmar needed 3 more votes to be lynched with about 3 minutes to go. why are you asking me this?? No he didn't the votes were 5-5 or 4-5 with bats not voting to save. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 20:36 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 20:35 Holyflare wrote: No you play slightly more but miss more. that's wrong so you're bad. My opinion can't be wrong bro. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
You're just agreeing with my points. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
His play is extremely mafia-y, yes, his everything is mafia-y but that's giving me massive reservations. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 20:40 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 20:37 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 20:36 marvellosity wrote: On October 06 2016 20:35 Holyflare wrote: No you play slightly more but miss more. that's wrong so you're bad. My opinion can't be wrong bro. yes, it can. your opinion could be the world is flat - nonetheless it isn't flat. ergo your opinion would be wrong. Yes if you take objective observation, such as based in facts and confuse it with subjective observation, based on feels and personal reasons that's easily the case. Don't be pedantic. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 20:43 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 20:41 Holyflare wrote: Personally I'd think he'd care more as mafia to not dick over his team after playing with him, unless of course they're all afk. But I was definitely trying to swing people onto him and he should know i normally get the lynch i yell for so he'd be likely to save himself. His play is extremely mafia-y, yes, his everything is mafia-y but that's giving me massive reservations. he didn't dick over his team. he didn't get lynched. 2 votes were needed on him with 3 minutes to go. it's a calculated risk. plus he always reserved the opportunity to vote batsnacks if it looked like he was getting lynched, and he could say "it's always better to vote someone other than yourself who isn't town". he always had that in reserve. basically don't get why you're putting any importance at all on what was essentially an anti-town move by his own logic. All it takes is 1 person to switch off batsnacks to him and he dies. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Calix, rip, defending palmar all evening and refusing to switch despite palmar looking like obvious mafia for one. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 20:46 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 20:34 Holyflare wrote: Why would mafia palmar not vote to save himself? This is a really bad argument and you need to stop pushing it in the thread. He did the axect same thing in Star Wars mafia. I was mafia with him and the votes were 7-7 and he didn't vote to save himself. I think he eventually voted 1 minute after the deadline but got saved because the other guy reached 7 first. Like... He did this as mafia before. I don't remember that. I shall sheep you glorious master koshi. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Star wars is the game where none of us were ever getting lynched. I don't remember palmar ever being at 7 votes. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
If you're thinking of shooting stutters do not. Hold your shot and wait to see if he gets modkilled. If he does not then you're welcome to n2. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Let's talk about actual mafia people. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Feel free to continue in my absence. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Talk about actual reasons people could be mafia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
I think in fact this is a game where all of my cases have been non exaggerated. I was apathetic at the lynch because, much like I still am, I'm a bit lost and have like 2 town reads max at a thin stretch. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 21:50 NeverUnlucky wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 20:34 Holyflare wrote: Why would mafia palmar not vote to save himself? 3 people were online at the deadline including him and Calix. Calix was never going to not vote BS. Palamara was in no threat of being lynched. Drop the "He didn't vote to save himself". Are you seriously perpetuating the palmar is mafia rhetoric while calling me mafia? That's hilariously bad since I'm trying to force the lynch to him. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 21:59 NeverUnlucky wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 21:52 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 21:50 NeverUnlucky wrote: On October 06 2016 20:34 Holyflare wrote: Why would mafia palmar not vote to save himself? 3 people were online at the deadline including him and Calix. Calix was never going to not vote BS. Palamara was in no threat of being lynched. Drop the "He didn't vote to save himself". Are you seriously perpetuating the palmar is mafia rhetoric while calling me mafia? That's hilariously bad since I'm trying to force the lynch to him. I am saying that the argument of Palamar not voting to save himself is invalid in this context. I am not saying he is mafia. I am calling you mafia though, yes. All your scum-reads so far have been obvious townies. That's either because you are like Calix or because you are mafia. Since the town retard rolecard is already in Calix's hands, I assume you are mafia. And you're saying this knowing that I pushed ticktock in the last game we played together, yes? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Calix is not townie, especially not after palmar defence. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 22:27 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote: On October 06 2016 21:56 Palmar wrote: Superbia could still be scum Could be. ;p Shoot this shit. Hf might be the mafia vig that would be interesting. He's totally setting himself up for the worst shot in the world on calix cause everything he says to defend himself is also what calix has been doing. Marv being super defensive is bad. He's just whining that people have a totally legitimate reason to scum-read him, come on man. No interest in finding and pushing another mafia. Um, so I forgot all my scum reads, made up some bs about nu, made up teams and forgot the previous association i made with batsnacks and ignored the towny nuggets from bs and defended palmar? Don't think I did any of that oats. Are you saying you haven't read the thread at all? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 22:33 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 22:27 Oatsmaster wrote: On October 06 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote: On October 06 2016 21:56 Palmar wrote: Superbia could still be scum Could be. ;p Shoot this shit. Hf might be the mafia vig that would be interesting. He's totally setting himself up for the worst shot in the world on calix cause everything he says to defend himself is also what calix has been doing. Marv being super defensive is bad. He's just whining that people have a totally legitimate reason to scum-read him, come on man. No interest in finding and pushing another mafia. Um, so I forgot all my scum reads, made up some bs about nu, made up teams and forgot the previous association i made with batsnacks and ignored the towny nuggets from bs and defended palmar? Don't think I did any of that oats. Are you saying you haven't read the thread at all? No, you pushed cases and kept the thread alive when it was dying. same as calix. did you even read my question or did you just see, "someone called me scum,must answer with some irrelevant nonsense". It's almost as if logical inconsistencies and lapses in thoughts and judgement mean nothing to you. I don't remember calix pushing the thread forward. I remember her having no explanation for her nu read and it was a bad push, I remember her saying some stuff about batsnacks and that ended up wrong and then she never really made her own push again. Which she fully admits. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 22:50 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote: On October 06 2016 22:33 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 22:27 Oatsmaster wrote: On October 06 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote: On October 06 2016 21:56 Palmar wrote: Superbia could still be scum Could be. ;p Shoot this shit. Hf might be the mafia vig that would be interesting. He's totally setting himself up for the worst shot in the world on calix cause everything he says to defend himself is also what calix has been doing. Marv being super defensive is bad. He's just whining that people have a totally legitimate reason to scum-read him, come on man. No interest in finding and pushing another mafia. Um, so I forgot all my scum reads, made up some bs about nu, made up teams and forgot the previous association i made with batsnacks and ignored the towny nuggets from bs and defended palmar? Don't think I did any of that oats. Are you saying you haven't read the thread at all? No, you pushed cases and kept the thread alive when it was dying. same as calix. did you even read my question or did you just see, "someone called me scum,must answer with some irrelevant nonsense". It's almost as if logical inconsistencies and lapses in thoughts and judgement mean nothing to you. I don't remember calix pushing the thread forward. I remember her having no explanation for her nu read and it was a bad push, I remember her saying some stuff about batsnacks and that ended up wrong and then she never really made her own push again. Which she fully admits. Its almost as if I'm not even making that point. Can you quote the wrong stuff about bats? He was town?? Every association she made to bats was forgotten like he wasn't actually a mafia read. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 22:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Like what the fuck man hf. I just said that calix pushed shit and kept the thread going which is objectively correct and also what you said you did that makes you town. That's it. Yes but that's fucking dumb because her pushing the thread forward was full of logical inconsistencies and mine made sense at every turn. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 22:58 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 22:53 justanothertownie wrote: On October 06 2016 22:48 Superbia wrote: On October 06 2016 22:45 justanothertownie wrote: What kind of question is that? If that was the case mafia probably did not really care who of them got lynched so we think about the wagons with that in mind. And you would question people who are outside of the wagons first because they apparently did not care about the lynches. Why are you getting so defensive? Like you're a natural stand out if Palmar is town. Do you think Palmar is town? Seriously? Are you not able to read? 1. I have no idea what Palmar is. Could easily be mafia. That's why we need to wagon him day2. 2. I will explain the outlier thing to you like you are 5 because apparently it is really hard to grasp this simple thing: JAT in thread. No wagons. JAT votes superbia who he thinks is mafia and who other people agreed would be a decent lynch/realistic wagon. JAT is gone until after deadline which he announced before the game started. Wagons start to form on batsnacks and Palmar. . . . . JAT is scummy because he did not predict the wagons would be bats and Palmar?!?! Do you see the logical problem here now? I really really don't know why you are being this defensive dude. Because you're pushing dumb shit too. You knew jat was away so it's pretty irrelevant whether he was off or on a wagon before they even started. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 23:02 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 23:00 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 22:58 Superbia wrote: On October 06 2016 22:53 justanothertownie wrote: On October 06 2016 22:48 Superbia wrote: On October 06 2016 22:45 justanothertownie wrote: What kind of question is that? If that was the case mafia probably did not really care who of them got lynched so we think about the wagons with that in mind. And you would question people who are outside of the wagons first because they apparently did not care about the lynches. Why are you getting so defensive? Like you're a natural stand out if Palmar is town. Do you think Palmar is town? Seriously? Are you not able to read? 1. I have no idea what Palmar is. Could easily be mafia. That's why we need to wagon him day2. 2. I will explain the outlier thing to you like you are 5 because apparently it is really hard to grasp this simple thing: JAT in thread. No wagons. JAT votes superbia who he thinks is mafia and who other people agreed would be a decent lynch/realistic wagon. JAT is gone until after deadline which he announced before the game started. Wagons start to form on batsnacks and Palmar. . . . . JAT is scummy because he did not predict the wagons would be bats and Palmar?!?! Do you see the logical problem here now? I really really don't know why you are being this defensive dude. Because you're pushing dumb shit too. You knew jat was away so it's pretty irrelevant whether he was off or on a wagon before they even started. Did you see my EoD? Do you honestly believe I was paying any sort of detailed attention? I have yet to revisit EoD. Oh sorry I thought your questions about the deadline that were based on deadline facts had some sort of deadline based knowledge behind them hence why you were asking deadline related questions. Turns out you haven't read the deadline and weren't around for the deadline so your deadline related questions are being asked for the sake of asking deadline related questions and you have no knowledge or substance behind these deadline comments. Deadline. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 23:04 Superbia wrote: Weren't you calling JAT mafia at some point HF? Are you interested in solving this game? Or are you just interested in cutting people off? What a nerd. Isn't that my mafia objective? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 06 2016 23:07 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On October 06 2016 23:06 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 23:02 Superbia wrote: On October 06 2016 23:00 Holyflare wrote: On October 06 2016 22:58 Superbia wrote: On October 06 2016 22:53 justanothertownie wrote: On October 06 2016 22:48 Superbia wrote: On October 06 2016 22:45 justanothertownie wrote: What kind of question is that? If that was the case mafia probably did not really care who of them got lynched so we think about the wagons with that in mind. And you would question people who are outside of the wagons first because they apparently did not care about the lynches. Why are you getting so defensive? Like you're a natural stand out if Palmar is town. Do you think Palmar is town? Seriously? Are you not able to read? 1. I have no idea what Palmar is. Could easily be mafia. That's why we need to wagon him day2. 2. I will explain the outlier thing to you like you are 5 because apparently it is really hard to grasp this simple thing: JAT in thread. No wagons. JAT votes superbia who he thinks is mafia and who other people agreed would be a decent lynch/realistic wagon. JAT is gone until after deadline which he announced before the game started. Wagons start to form on batsnacks and Palmar. . . . . JAT is scummy because he did not predict the wagons would be bats and Palmar?!?! Do you see the logical problem here now? I really really don't know why you are being this defensive dude. Because you're pushing dumb shit too. You knew jat was away so it's pretty irrelevant whether he was off or on a wagon before they even started. Did you see my EoD? Do you honestly believe I was paying any sort of detailed attention? I have yet to revisit EoD. Oh sorry I thought your questions about the deadline that were based on deadline facts had some sort of deadline based knowledge behind them hence why you were asking deadline related questions. Turns out you haven't read the deadline and weren't around for the deadline so your deadline related questions are being asked for the sake of asking deadline related questions and you have no knowledge or substance behind these deadline comments. Deadline. I have come to the conclusion that all brits are somewhat infuriating. No love lost, though. Reported this post for bigoted racism. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
And you too. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
I just haven't met any intelligent Americans yet. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 07 2016 01:18 Calix wrote: So many pages, so little of interest. I just saw some stupid role-talk and bickering, zzz. Decided to do some filter-diving. JAT and HF are still scummy in their own right, nothing new there. Koshi can enter my obvtown pile. Marv goes down a notch because I looked at his filter and Superbia's. Firstly, his filter isn't as good as I thought it was. Second, I noted that spat over wherever Superbia TMI'd that I was town...and then realised that he called batsnacks/ myself WvW later on. Which makes no sense because if you think Superbia TMI'd that I was town then that implies that you think I'm town...except for the fact that he doesn't. So why would you think that a scum-read was spewed town by another scum-read when you haven't said that you town-read either of them? Very confused there. Stutters can be considered as a potential scum, if only because I'm town-reading a lot of people so he looks worse by POE. So you agree with my marv read, yet again, another read sheep (what is this 5 times now?) and still have the audacity to then still call me mafia? Ridonkulous. Did you update your jat read by the way? I don't remember anything other than you saying his alignment was tied to batsnacks (which is now irrelevant) and something about how he plays the same as every game but he still appears as "obvious reasons" mafia? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
You can't say "jat is mafia for obvious reasons" but those obvious reasons don't exist at all because like you just wrote, you haven't even quantified them amd your old ones are moot. So really you're making a read that is unsubstantiated, based on falsehoods that you won't even check and bad. I have also made absolutely nothing up. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
He could and probably is likely town but he's definitely completely fallen off tonight enough for me to think he could be mafia again (null/town specifically), yes, even if I said I'd sheep him because that turned out to be a lie. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
You had reads on jat based on batsnacks being mafia. That reason is gone. You had no other reasons particularly (maybe one sentence that he's underwhelming) but then come back and say jat is mafia for OBVIOUS reasons. How can a reason be obvious when nothing has been said about him and all of your reads are outdated on him? There's no point for a town you to have 0 substantiation on your biggest mafia reads and come in to say shit all, if you wanted to qualify it you would have. It's effectively a shitty list post and your reasons are so weak. Nobody really wanted to lynch batsnacks on meta apart from maybe jat, your scum read, and everyone was yelling at you to get off batsnacks but you ignored it. That meta was also like 4 years old and based on a few games. Jat meta is solid over time underwhelming play that is so easily fact checked and you won't do it. It looks incredibly like you're clutching at straws for a reason if "underwhelming play" is all you have. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 07 2016 02:04 Calix wrote: Who gives a shit if town reads act less townie if they're not acting like mafia? I get that it's Night 1 but that's ridiculous to doubt people with that reasoning so soon. I for one have a lot of town-reads which I'm happy with. @NU, yes. I'm saying he's specifically acting like mafia. Was that not clear from the "he's dropped his super hard town reads and opened up the idea that they're mafia when momentum is going their way"? That's staple mafia play, follow the sentiment *cough*you*cough"* | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 07 2016 02:11 Calix wrote: Yes HF, it was a shitty list post where I didn't elaborate on my reasoning. Well done, moron. You took multiple paragraphs to realise that. Waste of a wall-post. You know, you're not very good at this game. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 07 2016 02:13 NeverUnlucky wrote: Show nested quote + On October 07 2016 02:13 Holyflare wrote: On October 07 2016 02:11 Calix wrote: Yes HF, it was a shitty list post where I didn't elaborate on my reasoning. Well done, moron. You took multiple paragraphs to realise that. Waste of a wall-post. You know, you're not very good at this game. HF, are you town? *clap* *clap* | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 07 2016 02:46 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 07 2016 02:42 Calix wrote: "Also for Stutters to be underwhelming there needs to be a threshold of expectation." lol no. I don't need to have played with Stutters before to realise that his filter is underwhelming and I don't need to play with you to see that too. Go whine about something else that doesn't relate to you, bye. What does stutters have to do with anything? It's that autocorrect from typing his name a million times in mafia qt. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 07 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On October 07 2016 02:53 justanothertownie wrote: On October 07 2016 02:50 Grackaroni wrote: You can actually add Marv to my JAT/Damdred post above. What happened to your Palmar scumread? Weren't you one of the people pushing for him eod? I had kind of a hard time believing he would be such a shitter as scum to not change his vote. Oh shit you've only gone and done it. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
I don't know what Calix's excuse is though. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
"who the fuck do we kill they all look bad" Also marv, who is mafia? See a lot of not talking about mafia people above. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695 NeverUnlucky Oatsmaster Superbia batsnacks, Vanilla town, lynched D1. Grackaroni This is my list of potential mafia. Even green flipped bats. + Show Spoiler + Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695 Maybe add oats for atrocious night posts but kinda like his style. Maybe remove jat if he goves me a frilly list post of mafia reads. A lot of townish reads can also come back, Superbia very very flimsy town read. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 07 2016 05:26 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 07 2016 05:22 Holyflare wrote: Koshi Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695 NeverUnlucky Oatsmaster Superbia batsnacks, Vanilla town, lynched D1. Grackaroni This is my list of potential mafia. Even green flipped bats. + Show Spoiler + Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695 Maybe add oats for atrocious night posts but kinda like his style. Maybe remove jat if he goves me a frilly list post of mafia reads. A lot of townish reads can also come back, Superbia very very flimsy town read. Why are Super and Grack not in that list? Rest is fine. I would probably remove marv though. They've said funny things and i like to laugh. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 07 2016 05:28 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 07 2016 05:27 Holyflare wrote: On October 07 2016 05:26 justanothertownie wrote: On October 07 2016 05:22 Holyflare wrote: Koshi Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695 NeverUnlucky Oatsmaster Superbia batsnacks, Vanilla town, lynched D1. Grackaroni This is my list of potential mafia. Even green flipped bats. + Show Spoiler + Calix marvellosity Palmar justanothertownie Damdred Stutters695 Maybe add oats for atrocious night posts but kinda like his style. Maybe remove jat if he goves me a frilly list post of mafia reads. A lot of townish reads can also come back, Superbia very very flimsy town read. Why are Super and Grack not in that list? Rest is fine. I would probably remove marv though. They've said funny things and i like to laugh. Marv also said funny things. Palmar too. I don't rate their funny posts very highly on my arbitrary scale. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 07 2016 05:35 Calix wrote: Lack of a response for that massive contradiction noted. If you haven't night-killed me because you somehow think I'm getting mislynched still, I'm 100% voting for you tomorrow. Have fun. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 15 2016 06:04 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2016 19:41 Holyflare wrote: This will be a game where either good people roll mafia and lose or bad people roll mafia and lose. Pretty hard when 50% of the game afk. I agree. Still well played i guess. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
| ||
| ||
Next event in 12h 43m
[ Submit Event ] |
StarCraft 2 NeuroSwarm 220 StarCraft: Brood WarNathanias 142 ProTech123 JuggernautJason 117 RuFF_SC2 112 -ZergGirl 76 ForJumy 66 CosmosSc2 51 Dota 2 Counter-Strike Super Smash Bros Heroes of the Storm Other Games tarik_tv16602 Grubby2555 FrodaN1227 shahzam817 ToD554 shoxiejesuss410 Hui .241 XaKoH 131 NuckleDu99 Trikslyr96 Mew2King80 PPMD45 Organizations StarCraft 2 StarCraft: Brood War StarCraft 2 StarCraft: Brood War
StarCraft 2 • Berry_CruncH153 StarCraft: Brood War• MEDOEDLive 104 • musti20045 16 • Gussbus • LaughNgamez Trovo • Poblha • Migwel • aXEnki • intothetv • Laughngamez YouTube • Kozan • IndyKCrew Dota 2 League of Legends Other Games |
ESL Pro Tour
World Team League
ESL Pro Tour
Reynor vs MaNa
GunGFuBanDa vs Spirit
Elazer vs Krystianer
SKillous vs MaxPax
Big Brain Bouts
Korean StarCraft League
Afreeca Starleague
hero vs Soulkey
AfreecaTV Pro Series
Reynor vs Cure
ESL Pro Tour
World Team League
ESL Pro Tour
[ Show More ] BSL
Zhanhun vs DragOn
Dewalt vs Sziky
CSO Cup
Replay Cast
Sparkling Tuna Cup
ESL Pro Tour
World Team League
ESL Pro Tour
BSL
Gypsy vs Bonyth
Mihu vs XiaoShuai
ESL Open Cup
ESL Open Cup
ESL Open Cup
ESL Pro Tour
ESL Pro Tour
|
|