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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 12:19 GMT
#1432
Getting addicted to refreshing. Got to close browser lol.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 12:20 GMT
#1433
1 more thing. Out of marv/Palmar I would kill Palmar anyday everyday.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 15:02 GMT
#1514
On October 06 2016 23:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 23:27 Holyflare wrote:
I mean aren't we all full of prejudices that have been broken at some point?

I just haven't met any intelligent Americans yet.

Peekaboo!

Great answer to proof his statement. lol. Imagine it irl.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 15:57 GMT
#1560
I haven't read last 3 pages.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 17:41 GMT
#1632
On October 07 2016 02:01 Holyflare wrote:
I'm also feeling completely the opposite to your koshi read. He was perhaps one of my only town reads yesterday but his super strong town reads disappeared for no reason and they've flipped when seemingly momentum is gaining on their pushes (on you, marv etc)

He could and probably is likely town but he's definitely completely fallen off tonight enough for me to think he could be mafia again (null/town specifically), yes, even if I said I'd sheep him because that turned out to be a lie.

I am super busy and don't have the luxe (not the right word) to put this game into my mind. I have to actually use all my braincells currently at work and it shows. I did my best yesterday to give you the Town Koshi Experience.

Tomorrow I will go watch Belgium - Bosnia in the stadium and in the weekend I will be without computer access so this is going to get interesting.

Only fair I get some criticism though. I am surprised I am not getting more.

This morning I thought for a second that marv/Calix could both be mafia and then when I was in the thread with you and Palmar the feeling got stronger. But I read their filters (opened and skimmed) and saw the same posts I saw before so I don't believe it. Marv maybe, Calix nope.

I can follow the thread every 40ish minutes at work but can't do more than just read the posts and go back to work. Nothing really pings out to me anyway so I am not too bothered about posting a lot.

We still have at least 2 mlynches if Stutters doesn't get modkilled. If he gets modkilled we are probably in trouble for the last mafia but atm no need to panic.

That being said. Lynching Batsnacks was horrible and we should have always lynched Palmar. That's on all of you and excuses me from doing the dirty work. ty.


↑my current state of the game mentality.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 18:01 GMT
#1650
On October 07 2016 02:44 Calix wrote:
As a side note Koshi, the word you are probably looking for is "luxury"

Has anything else about Marv stood out to you?

Why would Stutters being modkilled 'probably put us in trouble'?

I don't know what you are asking about marv. My townread on him was based on the content of his posts only when I townread him and then the flip happened and based on that I flipped my read 180 degrees. While him being wrong should not be that impactful. Maybe a bit but not a full 180.

Stutters being modkilled is probably bad because 1) modkilled people flip town, that's simply life
+
2) we lose a ml (unless there is a vig) and then it's going to be a crappy 3 vs 1 lylo with biased people and the game is lost as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 18:20 GMT
#1662
On October 07 2016 03:05 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 02:44 Calix wrote:
As a side note Koshi, the word you are probably looking for is "luxury"

Has anything else about Marv stood out to you?

Why would Stutters being modkilled 'probably put us in trouble'?

I don't know what you are asking about marv. My townread on him was based on the content of his posts only when I townread him and then the flip happened and based on that I flipped my read 180 degrees. While him being wrong should not be that impactful. Maybe a bit but not a full 180.

Stutters being modkilled is probably bad because 1) modkilled people flip town, that's simply life
+
2) we lose a ml (unless there is a vig) and then it's going to be a crappy 3 vs 1 lylo with biased people and the game is lost as well.


One last question. Can you walk me through why your read flipped that much after batsnacks flipped town? If this is already explained elsewhere in your filter then just ignore this post.

Your Stutters comment stood out as you assumed he was flipping town but since you openly admit that with some reasoning (even if I find it weak and disagree), carry on.

It only flipped this morning after I slept because when I was going to work, I was considering who could be mafia if Palmar was not mafia, and I was thinking that would make you and marv most likely mafia. Marv for not caring at all about how we went towards EoD and putting batsnacks his name next to Palmars when he knew I was gunning for Palmar 100%. Making these 2 lynches the main wagons for sure.

You could be mafia for harddefending 1 townie like a tard while hard blindpushing another townie.

I even considered that nu was likely mafia with Palmar for voting his townread batsnacks over Palmar. (which is still a good consideration). But the guy posts so toxic I doubt he is mafia. Or if this is how he plays mafia I can only respect it. I can't do it like that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 18:31 GMT
#1666
On October 07 2016 03:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 03:20 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 03:05 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 02:44 Calix wrote:
As a side note Koshi, the word you are probably looking for is "luxury"

Has anything else about Marv stood out to you?

Why would Stutters being modkilled 'probably put us in trouble'?

I don't know what you are asking about marv. My townread on him was based on the content of his posts only when I townread him and then the flip happened and based on that I flipped my read 180 degrees. While him being wrong should not be that impactful. Maybe a bit but not a full 180.

Stutters being modkilled is probably bad because 1) modkilled people flip town, that's simply life
+
2) we lose a ml (unless there is a vig) and then it's going to be a crappy 3 vs 1 lylo with biased people and the game is lost as well.


One last question. Can you walk me through why your read flipped that much after batsnacks flipped town? If this is already explained elsewhere in your filter then just ignore this post.

Your Stutters comment stood out as you assumed he was flipping town but since you openly admit that with some reasoning (even if I find it weak and disagree), carry on.

It only flipped this morning after I slept because when I was going to work, I was considering who could be mafia if Palmar was not mafia, and I was thinking that would make you and marv most likely mafia. Marv for not caring at all about how we went towards EoD and putting batsnacks his name next to Palmars when he knew I was gunning for Palmar 100%. Making these 2 lynches the main wagons for sure.

You could be mafia for harddefending 1 townie like a tard while hard blindpushing another townie.

I even considered that nu was likely mafia with Palmar for voting his townread batsnacks over Palmar. (which is still a good consideration). But the guy posts so toxic I doubt he is mafia. Or if this is how he plays mafia I can only respect it. I can't do it like that.


Who did she harddefend?

My posts are not toxic :c

The way I play mafia is by getting lynched. If I am not lynched I am not mafia.

Palmar.

They are. But Calix is ok with it so I don't care. I prefer playing this way. But I got banned for a lot less. Or warned. Probably both.

Cool. So we can't ml you tomorrow?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 21:13 GMT
#1730
+ Show Spoiler +
Lynch Palmar. I was threatening to nobody but him this night. If I die he is 100% confirmed mafia. 100%. Vote him and lynch mafia. I promise.


↑Was going to post that right before EoD. I was late.

Oh well.

##vote Palmar
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 21:22 GMT
#1740
On October 07 2016 06:15 marvellosity wrote:
why even vote palmar koshi?

you know you're going to end up scumreading me in about 24-36 hours and do something else anyway

Don't know why you are trying to influence what I will do. If you are planning on being super obvious mafia in 36 hours I will indeed push you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 21:25 GMT
#1744
On October 07 2016 06:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:15 marvellosity wrote:
why even vote palmar koshi?

you know you're going to end up scumreading me in about 24-36 hours and do something else anyway

Don't know why you are trying to influence what I will do. If you are planning on being super obvious mafia in 36 hours I will indeed push you.

i'm super obvious mafia to you in about 95% games i'm town when we play together, so yes, i am planning on being super obvious mafia to you.

lol. I am pretty sure that that isn't true. I just had a period in which I liked to annoy you a bit. innocently for shit and giggles.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 06 2016 21:48 GMT
#1764
On October 07 2016 06:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:
To add to marv's points on Plam - Plamar said that I should have been modkilled day 1 for trying to abuse the game mechanics. This would only favor mafia.

That's his one post that made me think he is mafia.

Pretty sure that this is NAI but keep let's keep piling on!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 07:53 GMT
#1853
On October 07 2016 12:23 scott31337 wrote:
Koshi - Carefree Koshi, leaning town for now.
Calix - He hates it when I put him in the tinfoil town pile, so I'll do it again.
marvellosity - town, pretty confident of - if he got mafia again he'd be all mopey and shit
Palmar - Null/Leaning Scum - Trying to coast, doesn't give much for info. (Lynch Calix)
justanothertownie - leaning scum, he's doing the not getting info/shitposting JAT - which is a mafia trait for him.
Damdred-slight townlean/almost null - very little to go on.
NeverUnlucky - town, probably #2 - lots of info, somewhat helpful.
Oatsmaster - townlean - points out some inconstistencies in posts that I've seen
Superbia - Uggg - kind of like last game - not very helpful - null
Grackaroni - like last game too but nothing of help/doing/etc.

That's where I'm at now - Lynch Palmar/JAT preferred, Poke Super and Grack some more.

Can you explain these 2 townreads better?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 07:59 GMT
#1854
On October 07 2016 13:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Writing a case for Damdred is harder than I thought.

There's the point that Bats made of Damdred primarily making a reads dump and very little questioning, which seems uncharacteristic.

I think a case could also be made that he's only willing to scum read weaker players that won't give him too much trouble. He mentioned HF in his initial reads post and backed off that very quickly.

Primarily I'm going to go with, "I have a lot of town reads and the feels are reals." Can you disprove my feels, Damdred?

Bats getting so much heat and little support also points towards Damdred mafia. The guy who gets lynched D1 often sits on mafia. I like it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 10:33 GMT
#1933
On October 07 2016 17:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 16:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 13:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Writing a case for Damdred is harder than I thought.

There's the point that Bats made of Damdred primarily making a reads dump and very little questioning, which seems uncharacteristic.

I think a case could also be made that he's only willing to scum read weaker players that won't give him too much trouble. He mentioned HF in his initial reads post and backed off that very quickly.

Primarily I'm going to go with, "I have a lot of town reads and the feels are reals." Can you disprove my feels, Damdred?

Bats getting so much heat and little support also points towards Damdred mafia. The guy who gets lynched D1 often sits on mafia. I like it.

What do you mean by the last sentence?

That it wouldn't be the first time that somebody who pushes a mafia read D1 gets lynched.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 10:40 GMT
#1935
On October 07 2016 18:46 Palmar wrote:
It jives rather well with what I've been thinking about this game.

Batsnacks sounded like a townie
Oats sounds like a townie
NU sounds like a special snowflake
Grack is not as funny as I would've thought he should be, but I do like him nonetheless, for now.

Superbia is being an ass, but he does that all the time as all alignments, don't think he's been overtly scummy. One of the big milestones today is going to be whether or not he realizes what is up. If he doesn't, he needs to be dropped very low on everyone's lists when I flip town. Superbia is smart, knows me well, and a good player in general. If he votes for me when I'm town, that's super concerning.

Damdred and Stutters are players I have completely ignored.

Marv is going to drop his vote on me. If he actually stays he's 100% mafia. He reads me better than any player in the history of TL mafia, he has basically a 100% rate on figuring my alignment by day 2 when he's town. If I ever flip town, and he is still calling me mafia, he is scum. there is NO WAY AROUND IT. Thing is, I also know that he knows exactly this. He CAN'T be wrong on me, so I know he's going to end up drop his vote on me today. Depending on whether I believe the reasoning there's a tiny chance I'm wrong. But the NK, his play, his lack of enthusiasm for some things and just some tonally weird things, all point to marv-mafia. Not to mention, both HF and I picked up a townie vibe from batsnacks, and marv completely failed to recognize it. He is better at town than both of us, and that is super concerning.

JAT/Koshi/Calix <--- Three strong players who have been atrociously wrong throughout the game. There is definitely town in this group, probably even two. Whichever ones of you are town need to pull head out of asses and start playing reasonably. It is very likely that one of the townies is Koshi, because him tunneling stupid things is kind of what he does as town, the other two are slightly better so who knows.

Regarding Calix specifically, my day 1 read of her is mostly tonal. She felt very analytical and willing to try to solve the game when she was town in the last game I was with her. This contrasts her more timid and reserved tone here. I am also slightly suspicious of how she could read me so well on day 1 (against all odds she was calling me town) and then dropped it with some complete bullshit reasoning on n1, that is worrying.

I like how people are only mafia after you flip. It's your only argument. Fearmongering at its best.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 10:42 GMT
#1936
On October 07 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote:
We're lynching JAT koshi, get with the times.

I am looking forward to be covered in your town ooze in the previous 2 pages.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 10:47 GMT
#1940
On October 07 2016 19:16 Palmar wrote:
Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today:

I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side.

Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch

JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT

I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia.

In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad.

Don't worry. We are going to lynch into JAT/marv/Palmar.
Koshi pinkie promise.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 10:50 GMT
#1942
On October 07 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 19:16 Palmar wrote:
Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today:

I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side.

Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch

JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT

I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia.

In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad.


The only way to avoid this, is if someone else, (Calix? Superbia?) takes the mantle of leadership and whips this town into shape. It's going to be really tough, but it's what needs to be done.

I feel insulted somehow;
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 10:57 GMT
#1947
On October 07 2016 19:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 17:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2016 16:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 13:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Writing a case for Damdred is harder than I thought.

There's the point that Bats made of Damdred primarily making a reads dump and very little questioning, which seems uncharacteristic.

I think a case could also be made that he's only willing to scum read weaker players that won't give him too much trouble. He mentioned HF in his initial reads post and backed off that very quickly.

Primarily I'm going to go with, "I have a lot of town reads and the feels are reals." Can you disprove my feels, Damdred?

Bats getting so much heat and little support also points towards Damdred mafia. The guy who gets lynched D1 often sits on mafia. I like it.

What do you mean by the last sentence?

That it wouldn't be the first time that somebody who pushes a mafia read D1 gets lynched.

still not following.

It's ok Oats. Don't worry.
I had a good night of sleep.
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