EPT[M][N] Murder on the Cruise Trip Mafia - Page 5
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On October 06 2016 00:09 Calix wrote: Question. How can my all of my pushes look shitty when you're voting for the same person I am? Why are you not trying harder to sort out myself/ batsnacks when we're clearly not on the same team? What does my 'ego type' have to do with anything? If you make a list of your pushes and two of them are bad and the other two other people have started (myself basically) then the only pushes you have made yourself are crap and the other two are REACTIVE based on the sentiment of the thread. Basically your posts seem entirely reactive and contain a plethora of things to assuage other people's fears. | ||
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On October 06 2016 00:21 Calix wrote: Even if we disregard two pushes of mine which I started, I was the first person to make a case against batsnacks. In literally no universe does your narrative of "Calix is entirely reactive" hold. You are just making up bullshit at this point. Read the thread and stop talking out of your arse. Then why are you the last person to vote on batsnacks? Why is jat and batsnacks a team but then if batsnacks is mafia grackaroni is ALSO part of that team while On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote: If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. he doesn't appear in your list of scum reads at all initially: On October 05 2016 18:17 Calix wrote: Pointless question, given that I have literally said "batsnacks and JAT are in cahoots" I don't have a third full-on scum-read. I just think that this group [Koshi/ Palmar/ HF/ Stutters] have scum among them. You think batsnacks is mafia. It's incredibly weird that you think jat is mafia for all of this association bs but then have grack as a "town lean" but he's probably mafia if batsnacks is mafia. It doesn't make sense in the slightest. All I did was ask you for a list of scum reads but then when I called you out on your bs reads that you can't possibly make you backtrack and say it's a list of people if your reads are WRONG. That's not what I asked for at all, it's scummy as shit, it's another inconstancy with the reads that you don't remember. Furthermore, you haven't expressed the majority of these reads. You tell me that your pushes are Superbia and Batsnacks but your read on me is entirely unqualified. I made good pushes/cases on both of these people and they are both people that you want to lynch and think are mafia. If I ask a person for a mafia read and they give me a list of people that "oh if i'm wrong these people are mafia maybe" then that's fucking dirty and scummy. If a person is asked about a possible world where someone is mafia and that world is the world that already exists in that persons mind why do they say the opposite? I'll give you the answer, it's because that person is mafia. | ||
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Calix has a scum read on Bats. Calix has a scum read on JAT for association and some minor point which she was told is wrong so it's really association. Calix is asked what Grack's alignment is and says if Bats is mafia Grack is mafia. ^^^^^^^^^ the above is a lapse in logic because she's never mentioned that before at all and she "town leans" grack which means her bats read is either: A) faked B) knows it's a town flip tl:dr part 2: Calix admits that she's pushed nu/oats (bad pushes) and followed on the pushes of superbia/bats (also my pushes) yet when I asked her to make a scum list she randomly spouts off extra names of: Koshi/Palmar/HF/Stutters. Calix gets called out on this bull shit list and she in fact says it's a "if bats doesn't flip mafia" list. ^^^^^ the above is a lapse in logic because she didn't get asked for that, it doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense at all to make a list of "if my two mafia reads are wrong" list when asked for the reasons she is scum reading someone. tl:dr part 3: her nu read was complete bull shit at the time, it had no evidence to back it up conclusion: mafia | ||
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On October 06 2016 02:10 NeverUnlucky wrote: Déjà vu... Your schedule is light because you study english Also stop being bad remember who he voted for last time day 1? that was mafia! | ||
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On October 06 2016 02:37 Calix wrote: Despite the fact that nobody can show town motivation for his posts, batsnacks has had a line of defenders who will focus on anyone else but batsnacks. He was coasting by without a single comment until I spotted him. He managed to get defended based on meta and my initial case on him was largely ignored. If he was bad town, that initial case would have met with FAR MORE support than it did. Now he's being chainsaw-defended by HF and JAT who have taken to attacking batsnacks' most vocal accuser. Note that NEITHER of them have explained how they town-read batsnacks. HF has said that he scum-reads batsnacks, yet he switches to me without a single comment explaining how his read has changed. (hint: said read 'progression' happened without batsnacks posting a single fucking thing) I won't claim that I haven't been defended, but the people defending me have stated town-reads on myself. They are not automatically assuming that XYZ are scum purely for attacking me. These are traits that are lacking in the push against me. My lynch is being pushed with far more conviction than batsnacks' is. That should tell you something. Here's the thing you need to learn. I don't care about associations, I don't care about teams that work together, I don't care who has pushed who. The simplest most honest thing I do is pushing things that I think are complete bull shit. Your vote on batsnacks was LAST on his wagon and you keep going on about how it's you and him and it must be you and him or whatever, you forgot your own reads, you didn't even post a list of scum reads when I asked you. I think your play has been super subpar compared to what I saw last game. So what if you even pushed batsnacks? You have outrageously bad thought patterns in YOUR filter. Batsnacks is still also scummy and I don't really care that you pushed him. | ||
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On October 06 2016 02:53 Koshi wrote: HF can you explain to me why you stopped putting pressure on JAT and went full out against Calix for that 1 post? because I remembered that I always scum read jat for playing like shit and I didn't mind his responses and I weigh someone scum reading me when they agree with everything I pushed way more likely mafia than anything else and all I did was ask for her scum reads and what i got instead was a "if my two scum reads AREN'T mafia then there's mafia in this pool" post instead of actual list of scum reads and reasons and my name was in the list which is bs. | ||
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On October 06 2016 02:58 Holyflare wrote: honestly don't care who we lynch as long as it's into stutters/superbia/bats/possiblycalixbutmaybenot/palmar/jat | ||
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