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On October 06 2016 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 1: Final Vote Count - batsnacks (5) - marvellosity, Damdred, Calix, Oatsmaster, NeverUnlucky
- Palmar (4) - Grackaroni, Holyflare, Koshi, Superbia
- Damdred (1) - batsnacks
- Superbia (1) - justanothertownie
- Holyflare (1) - Palmar
Not voting (1) - Stutters695
Scott has no vote.
Palmar tried starting a new train.
Grack was voting Palmar.
Oats and Damdred were involved in the ML for reasons I can't remember.
On October 09 2016 06:04 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 2: Final Vote Count - Palmar (2) - marvellosity, Koshi,
- Damdred (1) - Grackaroni
- justanothertownie (2) - Palmar, Oatsmaster
- marvellosity (1) - Superbia
- Superbia (4) - justanothertownie, Calix, NeverUnlucky, scott31337
Not voting (1) - Damdred
Grack CFD.
Palmar and Oats on Jat for sick read.
Scott ninja'd.
Damdred AWOL.
Potential scum were minimally involved in any ML.
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On October 09 2016 23:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 06 2016 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 06 2016 21:20 Superbia wrote:Stutters is a pretty shit shot. If you want to policy shoot, shoot Palmar (for info). If you want to hit mafia probably shoot Damdred. + Show Spoiler +Like there even is a vigi Palmar is a pretty shit shot. You always lynch palmar and similar people who are good at defending themselves as town. Stutters is by far the best shot because he will never be readable and the day we finally get rid of him will be a complete waste with 0 information gained. What did you think of Palmar's defense? If you are asking why I am suggesting to not shoot him there - Palmar is really really good at defending himself against being mislynched. So unless I am 100 % sure that he is mafia it is always better to try and lynch him because if he is actually defending himself you should be able to see his alignment. He will not go down like superbia a scrub as town. While trying to lynch stutters would have lead to no information obtained ever regardless of his alignment.
No, I understood your suggestion. I am asking for your thoughts on his D2 defense.
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On October 09 2016 23:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2016 23:42 Koshi wrote:On October 09 2016 22:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 09 2016 22:35 Calix wrote:
Yes, doing shit is generally a good thing.
'arbitrarily better' ???
I thought Palmar's responses were okay until Koshi pointed out the flaws in them. You also agreed with this assessment. I agreed with koshi's points on Palmar just like I agreed with jat's points on Super. Despite agreeing with them, I did not scum-read either. I pretty much voted Superbia because I agreed with jat's case even though I did not scum-read Super. I regret that. Arbitrarily better because jat's got no town tone and never proposed that his lynch was a ML nor that he was town. No words... Really just look at those 3 paragraphs. Mind = blown In a bad way
Sadface.
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I am back. I have decided to take the game more seriously and properly sit down, take my time to think, write down my thoughts, and stop acting like a troll/retard.
I've just read through Koshi's whole filter in the perspective that he was scum. The only incriminating thing I found was that he at some point agreed with lynching Super and bats who were in his "never lynch" list and then blamed town for it both times. Other than that, I think he is clear.
Koshi, day 1 you theorized that JAT/Palmar was a possible scum-team. Do you still think that way?
On October 06 2016 02:58 Koshi wrote:
Ok. So let's not lynch into these names.
Calix, Koshi, Oats, NU, Superbia, Grack, Damdred, Marv, batsnacks
Who is left?
Palmar
justanothertownie
Holyflare
Stutters695
Pretty good stuff.
On October 06 2016 03:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 03:22 Calix wrote:
I think lynching among JAT/ HF/ batsnacks is way more likely to hit multiple scum. Better return.
You don't agree? I think batsnacks is town and Palmar mafia. Palmar/JAT is also very possible.
On October 10 2016 03:57 Koshi wrote:
Mafia team is within Oats/Palmar/Scott/Damdred. I would say Grack is mafia but probably not. Just pretending to be. Or maybe he is. Who knows?
Why isn't Jat here?
In your next post you say that DDD seems to have a clean filter, so you cleared him. Here's what you said about him day 1. (minor point)
On October 07 2016 16:59 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 13:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Writing a case for Damdred is harder than I thought.
There's the point that Bats made of Damdred primarily making a reads dump and very little questioning, which seems uncharacteristic.
I think a case could also be made that he's only willing to scum read weaker players that won't give him too much trouble. He mentioned HF in his initial reads post and backed off that very quickly.
Primarily I'm going to go with, "I have a lot of town reads and the feels are reals." Can you disprove my feels, Damdred? Bats getting so much heat and little support also points towards Damdred mafia. The guy who gets lynched D1 often sits on mafia. I like it.
What makes you town-read him?
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After the NK is revealed, I think it is beneficial for town if Scott/DDD/Palmar/Jat/Oats is the cop to claim. This way we town-clear a foggy slot and scum cannot force a 1v1 in LyLo in the eventuality that we ML.
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I've read Damdred's filter. He's lock scum to me.
On October 05 2016 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Stutters
Bats
Super
Hf
Is my scum pool currently. I'm somewhat more confident in almost everyone else being town.
3 flipped town, other is a guy who had made 4 posts from which 2 were questions. Scummiest player in the game?
Awful scum pool.
On October 05 2016 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Like stutters feels more like a policy lynch with how sideline and active he is (or isn't in this case) so if we have to policy lynch we should do him.
Bats I think is on the sideline and is just posting things to exist basically. His one tinfoil isn't enough and I don't really see him sticking his neck,out and he's super agreeable and right in the middle on certain subjects (hf I believe) he also asked several questions that seemed not to,go anywhere.
I'd rather lynch bats atm
Bats was one of the few to scum-read Damdred with me day 1. He has not been agreeable nor in "the middle on certain objects".
What tinfoil?
Bats was not posting things just to exist. That is actually what Damdred has done. Same goes for his point about questions leading nowhere.
That is one bad scum-read.
On October 05 2016 03:41 Damdred wrote:
Hf probably going to rage on me to which will be sad and I do just do nit think super and hf will be on the same scum team with how super just name dropped him so easily.
Also super even when using the lurker d1 stool had decent posts when we last played instead here kind of seems like he is wanting to poke marv to rage instead of doing anything interesting.
Kind of think super is scum.
Very hesitant in his read.
Super's interaction with marv (re: "TMI'ing Calix as town") was in no way something that Super made in an attempt to make marv rage.
On October 05 2016 05:25 Damdred wrote:
I will say I've missed the marv sassiness in my life.
Grack could be scum to,I guess he's not been to amazing yet, but I have a higher view of his scum game than his town game over all.
Like as scum I generally see him as mire proactive and leading away while. I'm not sure lazy Grack makes me sad (and I think more likely town by my experience so far)
Hesitation.
On October 05 2016 05:28 Damdred wrote:
Hi marv.
Did you disagree with anything I've thought so far?
Interesting that he chose to say DISAGREE over AGREE. As in he expected marv to disagree. Again, this shows how hestiant he is.
On October 05 2016 07:08 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me. You just do not have good taste then since even calix town reads me. Maybe I'm wrong about NU being town I'm unsure now based on him reading the game opposite how he would idk.
"Even Calix town-reads me" What is this supposed to mean? It's as if he was trying to convince me to TR him because Calix did. Absolutely shit argument.
What does he know about how I would read the game?
Hestitant read.
I've seen zero town motivation in his posts. I would like to hear why Koshi and Calix TR the guy.
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Still in the process of reading through everyone's filter, but atm I'm at Palmar + Damdred + ? (Jat/Grack/marv).
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Grack, would you kindly comment on any of the filter-dives I've made and/or on the cop claim?
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On October 10 2016 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Still in the process of reading through everyone's filter, but atm I'm at Palmar + Damdred + ? (Jat/Grack/marv). Any reason for why grack and me are scummier than let's say - scott and oats?
I forgot Oats, thank you.
I don't see Scott+DDD in the same team at the moment.
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On October 10 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:On October 10 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
Jesus Christ, I'm going to die in just over an hour and some garbage accusations on Marv and Koshi are what come up?
Grack and Palmar can join Team Go Fuck Yourselves for whining that we're scum-reading them when they have done jack shit the entire game. The only valid point I saw in that was Grack defending Palmar with the "calling Superbia a bad lynch just draws attention to him" argument.
Otherwise no. Waaaaah you haven't done anything. Waaaaaah now you are accusing Marv and Koshi and I dislike that. Make your choice. You're one of the biggest whiners here. You haven't done anything yet you have the audacity to talk shit about the people who have? Why is it that you've only sprung to life after people start accusing you? lol
Calix, please focus. You have one hour left in this thread, and I want you to make the most of it.
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On October 10 2016 04:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:On October 10 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:On October 10 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:
Jesus Christ, I'm going to die in just over an hour and some garbage accusations on Marv and Koshi are what come up?
Grack and Palmar can join Team Go Fuck Yourselves for whining that we're scum-reading them when they have done jack shit the entire game. The only valid point I saw in that was Grack defending Palmar with the "calling Superbia a bad lynch just draws attention to him" argument.
Otherwise no. Waaaaah you haven't done anything. Waaaaaah now you are accusing Marv and Koshi and I dislike that. Make your choice. You're one of the biggest whiners here. You haven't done anything yet you have the audacity to talk shit about the people who have? Why is it that you've only sprung to life after people start accusing you? lol Calix, please focus. You have one hour left in this thread, and I want you to make the most of it.
Thoughts on my 3 latest contributions?
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On October 10 2016 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 04:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:On October 10 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Still in the process of reading through everyone's filter, but atm I'm at Palmar + Damdred + ? (Jat/Grack/marv). Any reason for why grack and me are scummier than let's say - scott and oats? I forgot Oats, thank you. I don't see Scott+DDD in the same team at the moment. Because of the shit vote I guess. Don't necessarily agree that that makes it impossible but at least I see your point.
I would find it outlandish that Damdred who was willing to PL Stutts/Scott whom he had as #1 scum-read out of 4 posts and Scott who voted Damdred for being sick (lol) were in the same team.
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On October 10 2016 05:00 Calix wrote:
NU, your Damdred case wasn't terrible although it's not compelling enough for me to consider him 'lock scum'.
There's also the issue of Scott to content with. Sadly dwelling on this is just speculation because neither of them are actually playing.
Yeah, but why do you and Koshi TR him?
Agreed. We pretty much have to keep our last ML to make sure we don't flip the coin on the wrong side when dealing with scott/ddd.
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On October 10 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Also NU was accusing me of buddying Marv for your dick joke earlier. This is why we don't make jokes JAT!
I'm really glad I'm not Calix because having an argument with NU every 15 pages must be pretty miserable.
Who's worse to argue with now that you've tasted Calix? 
+ Show Spoiler [To get things straight] +The dick measuring contest joke was mine -_-
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On October 10 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2016 05:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:On October 10 2016 04:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 10 2016 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:On October 10 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Still in the process of reading through everyone's filter, but atm I'm at Palmar + Damdred + ? (Jat/Grack/marv). Any reason for why grack and me are scummier than let's say - scott and oats? I forgot Oats, thank you. I don't see Scott+DDD in the same team at the moment. Because of the shit vote I guess. Don't necessarily agree that that makes it impossible but at least I see your point. I would find it outlandish that Damdred who was willing to PL Stutts/Scott whom he had as #1 scum-read out of 4 posts and Scott who voted Damdred for being sick (lol) were in the same team. I don't think it is outlandish. Damdred is a known hardbusser. And the vote is so obviously shit that I don't think that is unthinkable either.
Mmk. Forget that point then, it is forseeable.
On October 10 2016 05:07 Calix wrote:
I only skimmed the last few pages since I'm only playing for the next fucking hour, but the impression I got from Grack is that his main focus is on defending Palmar/ Oats with pushing scum-reads as a secondary objective.
This may not be entirely accurate. It's just the vibe I got and people should look into it when Day 3 starts.
Who do you 100% trust? I'll need someone else to bounce my reads off of.
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On October 10 2016 04:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
After the NK is revealed, I think it is beneficial for town if Scott/DDD/Palmar/Jat/Oats is the cop to claim. This way we town-clear a foggy slot and scum cannot force a 1v1 in LyLo in the eventuality that we ML.
What do you think of this?
Who would you lynch tomorrow?
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Why does Calix think that dying tonight gives her the right to act like a grumpy grandpa? lol
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On October 10 2016 05:43 Calix wrote:
Also vaguely annoyed that I lack the skill to sort through Damdred/ Scott/ Grack/ Palmar/ Oats any more than I have.
I'm more disappointed that the game did not turn out the way I expected it to between me being retarded and shitposting, Palmar, Marv and Koshi not having the time to play, Superbia having the time to play but prefering to be a shitter, and two slots being empty. :/
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On October 10 2016 05:49 Calix wrote:
Ah well, we just have to make the best of a very shitty situation. Wouldn't expect to catch any breaks this game.
Weird question to ask but I'll ask anyways.
Do you have tips/things to watch out for for me?
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On October 10 2016 05:58 Calix wrote:
I'm going to laugh if I end up living and I'm just being melodramatic for no reason, but that might just be me being unreasonably optimistic.
The only reason for that to happen is if mafia have a blue read they are confident in (even then they have framer/rber).
Other than that any kill that isn't you is a bad one. You're the most active player in the game, and it's much easier to win the game by killing it than by outplaying others.
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