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On October 14 2016 03:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:55 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum. Well, there a first time for everything. And considering your play I seriously doubt that this is true anyways unless the level of play on the site you are coming from is absolutely abysmal. You will flip scum.
Nope. Neither am I scum nor will I flip today.
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Let's say this,
If marv is town and green checked, its to mafia!jat discretion to let more suspicion build up on marv and he doesn't have to waste a kill and let people think Marv is not dead why?
While he can still do that he's taken a lot of,pressure off marv now and most if not,all town read marv now. There is not much point to leaving marv alive now when he can just do what he wants.
If that makes sense, its sub optimal for jat to do what he did as scum. Not in possible but,just nit what I would expect him to do.
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On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum.
even if you're right, today wouldn't be the day for it
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And honestly pocketing marv doesn't work that well especially going into 2 v 1.
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On October 14 2016 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum. You are twisting my words. I said marv will be killed IF he is town. Because mafia can't let a confirmed town live. I did NOT say that I consider marv confirmed town at that point.
people do seem to misunderstand the term 'confirmed town'. confirmed means there doesn't exist a world where the player is mafia. so there is no 'if' marv is town. just a semantics point.
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On October 14 2016 04:02 Damdred wrote:
And honestly pocketing marv doesn't work that well especially going into 2 v 1.
+1
i may be vain but i know how the game works
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On October 14 2016 04:02 Damdred wrote:
And honestly pocketing marv doesn't work that well especially going into 2 v 1.
Question: Who do you think is the scum-team now?
With your recent posts, it looks like you're trying to sell me that you, marv, jat, and I are the town while Koshi, Oats, and Scott are the scum.
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On October 14 2016 04:02 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 03:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 14 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
While I do appreciate the view it is to make naive people town read him, it's never in scrums best interest to give marv space or take pressure off him.
Jay has effectively made pressure on marv bad from him,and has in fact backed himself,more in the corner for,Whatcom team he can push.
Its not good to,do as scum and if jat did it it is pretty gutsy abd would result in a harder road to go. And forces him to kill marv at some point. If you've read Jat's earlier posts, he says that marv will be NKed because he is confirmed town (He is not, so that pretty much looks like a tmi). So yes, pocketing marv matches his agenda. I called Jat obvious scum. When I'm confident enough to call someone obvious X, that someone will always flip X. Jat will flip scum. You are twisting my words. I said marv will be killed IF he is town. Because mafia can't let a confirmed town live. I did NOT say that I consider marv confirmed town at that point. people do seem to misunderstand the term 'confirmed town'. confirmed means there doesn't exist a world where the player is mafia. so there is no 'if' marv is town. just a semantics point.
You are technically right. But I am sure you get what I mean.
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On October 14 2016 04:00 Damdred wrote:
Let's say this,
If marv is town and green checked, its to mafia!jat discretion to let more suspicion build up on marv and he doesn't have to waste a kill and let people think Marv is not dead why?
While he can still do that he's taken a lot of,pressure off marv now and most if not,all town read marv now. There is not much point to leaving marv alive now when he can just do what he wants.
If that makes sense, its sub optimal for jat to do what he did as scum. Not in possible but,just nit what I would expect him to do.
for the sake of argument, there is +ev in a jat-mafia wanting to alleviate pressure temporarily, even if in the long run it doesn't pan out. maybe just long enough to get the mislynch needed?
i think the nks implicate more than clear jat. that's something, especially later in the game. it's somewhat conjecture but it is something.
i would actually have to read jat's filter before making a good stab at his alignment mind you. i just want to put it off.
can anyone tell me if on day 2, there were other possible options other than Palmar before jat pushed Superbia? because pushing Superbia when palmar was on the table is a plus point for jat-town, all things considered
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Day 4: Vote Count 1
- justanothertownie (0) -
NeverUnlucky
- scott31337 (4) - Damdred, Koshi, NeverUnlucky, marvellosity
- Damdred (1) - justanothertownie,
NeverUnlucky, marvellosity
Not voting (2) - Oatsmaster, scott31337
Remember, voting is mandatory. The voting thread is located here.
Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched.
Day 4 will end in (Friday, Oct 14 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
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Yes, jat was set to be lynched day 2 at first.
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The OP has been updated with dead players, night/day posts and so on, sorry for being lazy.
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On October 14 2016 04:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 04:00 Damdred wrote:
Let's say this,
If marv is town and green checked, its to mafia!jat discretion to let more suspicion build up on marv and he doesn't have to waste a kill and let people think Marv is not dead why?
While he can still do that he's taken a lot of,pressure off marv now and most if not,all town read marv now. There is not much point to leaving marv alive now when he can just do what he wants.
If that makes sense, its sub optimal for jat to do what he did as scum. Not in possible but,just nit what I would expect him to do. for the sake of argument, there is +ev in a jat-mafia wanting to alleviate pressure temporarily, even if in the long run it doesn't pan out. maybe just long enough to get the mislynch needed? i think the nks implicate more than clear jat. that's something, especially later in the game. it's somewhat conjecture but it is something. i would actually have to read jat's filter before making a good stab at his alignment mind you. i just want to put it off. can anyone tell me if on day 2, there were other possible options other than Palmar before jat pushed Superbia? because pushing Superbia when palmar was on the table is a plus point for jat-town, all things considered
At the point that I made my case there was no alternative. People were voting me earlier but the wagon died way before that.
And I don't think the nightkills implicate me at all. Calix and Grack were most likely the mafia cop hunting.
And HF is actually a kill that would be really stupid for me to make. He was the only one in the game defending me from time to time.
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HF was neutral on you
looking at the vote thread you always had votes and they only really went away when the superbia thing came. guess i can't have that in your favour ^^
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On October 14 2016 04:13 marvellosity wrote:
HF was neutral on you
looking at the vote thread you always had votes and they only really went away when the superbia thing came. guess i can't have that in your favour ^^
Yes, there were 2 votes who stayed on me but the thread sentiment changed much earlier as you would know if you had read it. The votes were afk Palmar and afk oats.
Yes, HF was neutral but still the only one defending me against calix for example.
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Noone of the thread leaders was scumreading me anymore when I started the push on superbia. I just thought he was the better lynch.
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okay. just musing for now.
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2 more pages of filter than koshi despite being afk for 48 hours O.o
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On October 14 2016 04:35 marvellosity wrote:
2 more pages of filter than koshi despite being afk for 48 hours O.o
Good thing my filter oozes town then.
I am off to bed. Tomorrow busy day once more and again soccer before deadline. This time we will have drinks so will be phoneposting.
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Yay we are lynching scott.
Great boys.
Scum-team is obviously scott/damdred/jat.
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