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NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 14:27 GMT
#2036
Are you town? ^^
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 14:53 GMT
#2038
Marv, have you given out your reads?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 15:46 GMT
#2044
      Stutters / Scott:
The empty slot.



On October 04 2016 06:40 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:18 Calix wrote:
Fear not, I've also arrived.

You town this time?


Enters the game by asking Calix if she is town. Not really telling though I am leaning to think this is more of a townie question than a scum question.

On October 04 2016 07:47 Stutters695 wrote:
What is peeking?

Theoretical / not game-relevant question.

On October 04 2016 10:04 Stutters695 wrote:
Is calix this abrasive when she's town generally?

Another question about Calix's alignment. I think it is a genuine one for I cannot see it as a shade-throw. He looks interested in finding Calix's alignment. More town than scum post.

On October 05 2016 12:26 Stutters695 wrote:
Goddamn you guys post too much. Catching up.

Last thing we've heard from him. He never caught up.

Unlike what I I remembered of Stutts' filter, none of his posts are scummy.

Replaced by Scott:

On October 07 2016 06:20 scott31337 wrote:
Hey all - I'm at like page 71 and catching up.

NAI.

On October 07 2016 12:23 scott31337 wrote:
Koshi - Carefree Koshi, leaning town for now.
Calix - He hates it when I put him in the tinfoil town pile, so I'll do it again.
marvellosity - town, pretty confident of - if he got mafia again he'd be all mopey and shit
Palmar - Null/Leaning Scum - Trying to coast, doesn't give much for info. (Lynch Calix)
justanothertownie - leaning scum, he's doing the not getting info/shitposting JAT - which is a mafia trait for him.
Damdred-slight townlean/almost null - very little to go on.
NeverUnlucky - town, probably #2 - lots of info, somewhat helpful.
Oatsmaster - townlean - points out some inconstistencies in posts that I've seen
Superbia - Uggg - kind of like last game - not very helpful - null
Grackaroni - like last game too but nothing of help/doing/etc.

That's where I'm at now - Lynch Palmar/JAT preferred, Poke Super and Grack some more.


It feels like the explanation he gives for his reads do not match the player he associated them with. ie Oats pointing out inconsitencies, me having lots of info, JAT shitposting.

His reads criteria are inconsistent too - Palmar lean-scum, Damdred lean-town, Super + Grack null for essentially the same reasoning.

Also am uncertain of the validity of his read on Marv.

This post going somewhat along thread consensus left many questions unanswered which he still has not addressed.

Scummy-ish post for the mischaracterizations of the players and a very measly contribution (if any).

On October 07 2016 12:25 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 08:29 Palmar wrote:
sucks marv rolled mafia.I never got a good solvygamey vibe from him and now I know why.

But ok


Why aren't you voting for him then? Where's the phat case?


This post is NAI as well imo.



My conclusion: No real reason to scum-read this slot at the moment. \0 at its best.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 15:49 GMT
#2045
^ I quoted every one of their posts (minus scott's double post). 7 posts is all there is to their filter.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 15:57 GMT
#2047
Woah, marv has 8 pages of filter. I can barely remember any of his posts. That's telling. May filter dive him later when I get some motivation to do so.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 16:09 GMT
#2049
On October 08 2016 01:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:47 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:28 Grackaroni wrote:
[quote]
You called me obvious town around this point yesterday for doing exactly this. Jesus Koshi.

I was probably sleep deprived back then. I also don't recall that at all.
I do recall I thought you were town though. Somewhere.

Yeah I just checked you're in pretty deep here Koshi.

First you were arguing that I was bussing JAT. Now you're citing JAT's reasoning as a reason to scum read me without a connection to JAT when it's basically a summary of all the reasons you town read me to begin with.
On October 06 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah I remember why Palmar is in my scumlist.
He wanted to kill both Calix and Grack in consecutive posts when they are obv town.

Now that I reread his filter he is 100% mafia on Calix the entire game. The guy is not this bad.

##vote Palmar


On October 06 2016 04:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi, why is it you town read grack? I'm curious.

I had a +1 after his name after I did the read up. I don't know what post it exactly was. I think it was for going against the stream and pushing the Calix town read? That being said. He and rels owned my ass superhard last time so I should be still very careful.

On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


Those are 2 completely different instances. The reason I called you town in the first quote was because you went against some people pushing your reads. Now I am saying that JAT reason to scumread you is the most sheepable of all his reads.

You put those together and call it deep shit? lol

Yes when you read JAT's "sheepable reasons" the complete opposite way only the day before. You were one of the people who targeted JAT while he wasn't there. You town read me for defending Calix.

Yes and? What?

It seems pretty self explanatory to me. Now that Palmar is off the lynch block you're looking for a backup and you're using some reasoning you couldn't possibly agree with to try to support killing me.

I am not doing that at all. Not at fucking all. marv/JAT/Palmar and if a back up is needed I am thinking Damdred/Scott. Never did I want to go to you.


you think both marv and palmar are mafia?


Who do you think are the mafia, hmm? ^^
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 17:23 GMT
#2052
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 17:32 GMT
#2054
Jat, how about you kindly remove me from the /ignore list so we can have a little chat? I will try not to be abrasive, as I can understand it can ruin the fun of the game sometimes. :3

On October 07 2016 18:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
anyone who tries to give reasons to lynch palmar is clearly not reading the thread because there is nothing new that can be added to the stuff already said about palmar.


The fact that there is nothing new in itself is a reason to scumread palmar btw.
Yes, he is a lazy asshole as town but not when he is the designated lynch.


First I want to address this. You say that Plamar is lazy as town unless he is set to be the lynch.

Considering that he has made some attempts to contribute this morning, why is your vote still on him? What makes him scummy?

My understanding of your vote was that it was a pressure vote to get him to contribute, which he has done to an extent. Therefore, unless you think he is scummy and can show me how, I don't understand why your vote is still on him.

On October 07 2016 19:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 19:14 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 19:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 07 2016 19:09 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 19:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 07 2016 19:03 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 19:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 07 2016 18:59 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 07 2016 18:50 Calix wrote:
[quote]

Eww gross post.

[quote]

Eww another gross post.

Why would me being "passive compared to NU" mean anything? You're not actually accusing me of being passive in general, so your comment is meaningless.

You're not accusing me of being mafia. You just FELT the need to make a comment saying that I'm less townie than NU...but you don't think it makes me scum so again, this comment is meaningless.

What the fuck was the point? All you said was "Calix is less townie than NU" but you don't think I'm mafia either so it looks like you just posted some bullshit for the sake of posting it.

The point was very simple. People (oats I think) called your shitfight obviously TvT. I disagree with that - this should not be a reason to townread you.


Okay so you were just discrediting a town-read that Oats had even though you don't scum-read me either.

Good to know.

I did not say that either.

You are somewhere between low end of null and scum. Haven't made up my mind yet.


Duh, obviously you're not going to directly say that.

You saw someone give out a town-read.

Your first response was to attack the town-read even though you claim you don't scum-read me either.

Your reasoning is that I'm "less townie than NU" (lol)

This reads like scum rationale over a townie mindset.

Are you intentionally misrepresenting me or just bad at reading?

I saw someone throw out a reason to townread you which I think is faulty. I mentioned that. The end.

Never said that I scumread you in this context or any of the other stuff you are saying right now. My only message was that the shitfight should be treated as NAI regarding you.


Keep proving my point, lol.

Why don't you case me and I case you if I'm 'null-scum'? Sound fair?

I will case you whenever I think I need to which is not right now since I am not trying to lynch you.

Since you seem to be trying to lynch me you should probably case me if you can though. So go ahead.


If you're not trying to lynch me then who are you trying to lynch?

And if you're not trying to lynch anyone then what are you doing again?

I am lynching Palmar right now and have said that and also voted him for ages. That should be pretty obvious.

I would love to keep listening to your bullshit but unfortunately I have to work now.

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 17:34 GMT
#2055
On October 08 2016 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
And I will immediately prove myself as a giant hypocrite by sayng that as long as Palmar and marv keep scumreading each other the likelihood that I will vote outside of those 2 is very low and I think not solving this today would be a big mistake.


Why Plam over marv may I ask?

Marv is the scummier of the two in my eyes.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 17:43 GMT
#2057
Ok, I follow you.

Let's say you weren't committed to voting Marv/Palmar depending on their interactions (Which may never evolve given Plam's recent apathy), who would you be voting?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 17:46 GMT
#2058
Hmm, nevermind. Looking over your filter it's clear that it would be Superbia.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 17:53 GMT
#2060
Perhaps you would like to elaborate in a more concise fashion now?

If not, what is your opinion on Scott/Stutts? What is your opinion on my simili-filter-dive of that slot?

Also, I've seen you say that you "null-scum" read Calix. Care to go more in detail?

If there is any other subject of discussion you can come up with, I am all ears.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 17:58 GMT
#2062
On October 08 2016 02:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On the other hand I did not have that much of a problem with his content and he said he was sick. Maybe he will get replaced.

Similarly, you said that Stutters would get modkilled if he was town (Or I think that was you...). Does him not being MKed but instead replaced make you feel he is town/scum or do you think that your previous argument was just bad?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 18:26 GMT
#2067
I am really ambivalent on Jat at the moment. I am neither convinced he is town nor convinced he is scum.

Pros:
+ Show Spoiler [Pre-flip associations are bad bad bad…] +
I cannot think of a scumteam that makes sense for him with bats and HF dead.

Did not like Calix's 'case' on him (Maybe it's my distrust of her, idk)
Don't remember Plam nor Oats stating why they were voting for him ie indication of a bad train.
He is pugnacious.

Cons:
Seemed defensive
No town tone (To me that's a big one)

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 18:32 GMT
#2070
Are you town?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 19:06 GMT
#2076
On October 08 2016 03:57 marvellosity wrote:
most of the game is just other people asking people (e.g. me) to 'do things' as if that's doing something themselves. it isn't. no-one is actually doing anything.


That's my biggest FM pet peeve.

On October 08 2016 04:02 marvellosity wrote:
i wish you guys had just gone along with me more on the palmar thing, because he had a half hour flurry of decent posts and now he's coasting on it because everyone went 'oooh that looked nice'. it's so dull


:/

What is your Jat read?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 19:07 GMT
#2079
On October 08 2016 04:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 00:57 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Woah, marv has 8 pages of filter. I can barely remember any of his posts. That's telling. May filter dive him later when I get some motivation to do so.

you have 13 and i think much the same. so de facto you're scummier. except i don't particularly think you are, so meh.


Comparing yourself to others is a common thing for you, mmk.

Surely you remember my posts. Just think of Shitposts, Powerpuff Girls and "bad".
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 19:14 GMT
#2082
On October 08 2016 03:57 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar isn't being supertown despite his own proclamations, so i can basically conclude he's unable to give any reasonable explanation for his actions


Ok, but why are you voting him?

"Not supertown" != Mafia
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 19:20 GMT
#2086
On October 08 2016 04:15 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 04:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 08 2016 03:57 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar isn't being supertown despite his own proclamations, so i can basically conclude he's unable to give any reasonable explanation for his actions


Ok, but why are you voting him?

"Not supertown" != Mafia

i explained so i won't again.

Quote it at least. No reason to act anti-town.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 07 2016 19:27 GMT
#2088
On October 07 2016 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
might as well elaborate on palmar a little, pros and cons:

flicking through his filter just now, there are quite a few posts that look decently like flippant town palmar

but he criticised the lynch while doing absolutely nothing about it. it's an awfully long time ago now but it reminds me very much of rockband where he shat all over the prplhz lynch d1 while doing absolutely nothing about it.

he voted for hf instead (on nothing) having previously kinda townread him, and then subsequently townread him (????). like he says hf looks fine, votes him for a total non-reason at deadline while doing nothing to dissuade the bats wagon, and then calls him town after. it's all just nonsense and palmar doesn't generally do nonsense of that variety as town.

plus there were one or two other things i picked out on day 1 that i don't remember now

but hey if he's town he can so easily turn things around, because i'll always listen to him (which he knows)


The bolded is a decent argument. But it's really all there is to your case.

"plus there were one or two other things i picked out on day 1 that i don't remember now" isn't really helpful.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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