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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 11 2016 15:35 GMT
#1561
On September 12 2016 00:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On September 12 2016 00:16 Calix wrote:
On September 12 2016 00:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 12 2016 00:04 Calix wrote:
On September 12 2016 00:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
He is not helping the town, right, but NAI.

I actually liked his responses to your posts lately and am revising my read on him. If he becomes a town-read then I'm completely barking up the wrong trees as it means I have no other scum-reads.

Vivax's posts in the second half of D1 really dropped in quality. I suspect him of laying back because he was town-read. He is no longer a strong read for me.


You actually town-read his responses? He didn't respond to half of my points and brushed off my push as tunneling.

I feel like you are focusing on the wrong things here.


Town-read, no. I didn't scum-read them either.

And lol @"he didn't respond to half of my points". When I was pushing you, you did not answer to all of my points either. That's not always AI. TW answered none of the 10+ questions I've asked him too.

What are the right things I should be focusing on then?


That's not how it works. Damdred's scummy actions don't become less scummy just because he acted like non-scum elsewhere.


Need I remind you that your actions were scummy af too? Does it make you scum? I don't think so. Why would it make DDD scum then?

Show nested quote +
What do you make of TW and fuba's latest post?


Don't remember TW's last post, and I did not read fuba's last post with a critical viewpoint. I liked the post, agreed with the points he made but did not dig into it in other words.

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When I said "the wrong things" I was complaining about you town-reading Vivax less because "his posts at EOD dropped in quality" even though this argument applies to most of the players in the game. It's a dumb reason to trust someone less is my point.


~(o.o)~


To take a page from you for a moment, false equivalence. My actions are not scummy and my behaviour does not benefit the scum. You're just a scrub who thinks pronouns are a 'scum tell' rofl

I meant TW in general, not just his last post. Poor wording on my part.

O_O
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 11 2016 15:36 GMT
#1562
Vivax, let me know when you've finished catching up or whatever you're doing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 11 2016 15:38 GMT
#1563
On September 11 2016 05:52 Palmar wrote:
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On September 11 2016 05:51 Grackaroni wrote:
The slip is so stupid. He literally said in the post before "IF HF IS TOWN'

quiet boy

instead of being shithead, switch with me.

step back please, I'm going to do science.


I'd like to see what the science was. No one actually voting TW after the slip might have led Palmar to some conclusions as well. I'm not sure I buy he doesn't have any just cause nobody followed him, so at least let's hear the hypothetical version "what if somebody actually fueled a TT counterwagon", what would Palmar's conclusions have been on people following or not following him.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 11 2016 15:40 GMT
#1564
You guys put way too much importance in your meta reads.

You disregarded the points Calix and I made on DDD D1 because "lol, he will improve his play later on, meta", you don't want a lynch on someone you scum-read because meta says he will scumslip if he's scum, you said that TT wouldn't be inactive as town cuz' meta, etc.

Like, all the points I can make on someone are somehow invalid because you think that you will be able to read everyone with meta. It's not how it should work. Meta can evolve, and you can try to play your town meta as scum.

"Meta should be the icing on the cake not the whole fucking cake."
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 11 2016 15:41 GMT
#1565
On September 12 2016 00:36 Calix wrote:
Vivax, let me know when you've finished catching up or whatever you're doing.


Just shoot I'm reading wherever my interest takes me, not really catching up besides still having to sift through the stuff shape posted.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 11 2016 15:43 GMT
#1566
Like somebody said "town palmar has a plan" no matter how his play looks. He just claimed he had a plan, let's hear what the plan was and if he releases another "btich pls" type of statement instead of explaining we're voting him tomorrow.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 11 2016 15:44 GMT
#1567
On September 12 2016 00:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:
You guys put way too much importance in your meta reads.

You disregarded the points Calix and I made on DDD D1 because "lol, he will improve his play later on, meta", you don't want a lynch on someone you scum-read because meta says he will scumslip if he's scum, you said that TT wouldn't be inactive as town cuz' meta, etc.

Like, all the points I can make on someone are somehow invalid because you think that you will be able to read everyone with meta. It's not how it should work. Meta can evolve, and you can try to play your town meta as scum.

"Meta should be the icing on the cake not the whole fucking cake."


Most people past d1 I ignore meta on, but if you saw some of vivax mafia games you would see I think what I mean because it's not really about a scum slip per se
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 15:45 GMT
#1568
On September 11 2016 21:27 Holyflare wrote:
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On September 11 2016 21:06 Holyflare wrote:
He basically shut down my posts by saying "no that's not what he's thinking" DESPITE tt actually saying that is what he was thinking meaning tw was defending tt WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT HE SAID THIS GAME


Best post in the game imo will quote later.


Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 11 2016 15:53 GMT
#1569
Yes I agree tw is moat likely scum here.

I also think vivax last few posts have been good btw.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 11 2016 15:57 GMT
#1570
On September 11 2016 23:12 Palmar wrote:
Grack posts like mafia with the sass of a townie btw.

All his posts come at awkward times (like him casually dropping by while superbia and I were figuring out the mechanics, and most of his EOD posts), but he posts them like he's the king of the world and directly to me which means he's not afraid of me, which is something.

Because you were supposed to come in here and help lynch the obvious mafia! HF and then you didn't read even though you were posting and I had prodded you so many times.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 15:57 GMT
#1571
On September 11 2016 21:04 Holyflare wrote:
Because you're scummy to me and I'm a great player and you do look like you pick the correct wifom every time despite everything we say and lots of good players agree and i don't rate tw as an amazing top tier player yet he made an entire weak case on you being town and keeps yelling about it and it's pretty much the only substantial thing that he's done other than arguing how tt wasn't mafia (again tmi) despite tt doing mafia looking things and afking. He basically shut down my posts by saying "no that's not what he's thinking" DESPITE tt actually saying that is what he was thinking meaning tw was defending tt WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT HE SAID THIS GAME.

Tw's plan this game is defend people that don't need defending for no reason and push me.

Abd he's fucked up calling me town and he called tt town in a slip too although slips basically mean nothing but they're there.

Basically i lynch people that make cases that can't possibly be made with the information normal people have.

NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 11 2016 16:00 GMT
#1572
On September 12 2016 00:35 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2016 00:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 12 2016 00:16 Calix wrote:
On September 12 2016 00:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 12 2016 00:04 Calix wrote:
On September 12 2016 00:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
He is not helping the town, right, but NAI.

I actually liked his responses to your posts lately and am revising my read on him. If he becomes a town-read then I'm completely barking up the wrong trees as it means I have no other scum-reads.

Vivax's posts in the second half of D1 really dropped in quality. I suspect him of laying back because he was town-read. He is no longer a strong read for me.


You actually town-read his responses? He didn't respond to half of my points and brushed off my push as tunneling.

I feel like you are focusing on the wrong things here.


Town-read, no. I didn't scum-read them either.

And lol @"he didn't respond to half of my points". When I was pushing you, you did not answer to all of my points either. That's not always AI. TW answered none of the 10+ questions I've asked him too.

What are the right things I should be focusing on then?


That's not how it works. Damdred's scummy actions don't become less scummy just because he acted like non-scum elsewhere.


Need I remind you that your actions were scummy af too? Does it make you scum? I don't think so. Why would it make DDD scum then?

What do you make of TW and fuba's latest post?


Don't remember TW's last post, and I did not read fuba's last post with a critical viewpoint. I liked the post, agreed with the points he made but did not dig into it in other words.

When I said "the wrong things" I was complaining about you town-reading Vivax less because "his posts at EOD dropped in quality" even though this argument applies to most of the players in the game. It's a dumb reason to trust someone less is my point.


~(o.o)~


To take a page from you for a moment, false equivalence. My actions are not scummy and my behaviour does not benefit the scum. You're just a scrub who thinks pronouns are a 'scum tell' rofl


The last will talk only benefits the scum. You were giving town a guideline to follow so that the scum can frame the LWs accordingly and not look suspicious. Nice try.

Eat a bag of dicks, asshole. + Show Spoiler +
http://i.giphy.com/DMCHbTE0n9Nzq.gif


I meant TW in general, not just his last post. Poor wording on my part.


Poor wording = scum. You fell in the abyss I dug in front of your house as a trap, mob.

His reasoning sucked for every argument he has made. Just look at the reason why he town-read me. (Something like "This is your 7th game, ok, I town-read you.) I hope for him it's NAI, but I can't know that.
He has had very little interaction with anyone. Just looking at his filter shows this. Most of his posts aren't in reply to anybody else. He has not answered a single one of my many questions. Not sure if it's NAI in general or NAI for him, but I can see scum acting this way not to draw attention to himself.
He, too, acts all nicey-nice.
He spent more time and effort making a case on why you were town than why his sr HF was scum. Town should obviously be doing the opposite. It's more of a scum thing to do to a) protect a teammate b) get town cred c)pocket the person you are defending.
Mischaracterizes a couple of things including how the game is being played (Group 1 vs Group 2).
Town tone.

I had other points on him before, but I do not remember them. I have him at null rn.

O_O

c:
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 16:04 GMT
#1573
I wager that I will die and I'm not leaving a kast will because it will get edited to something i didn't say so I'd rather just post what i want before i die
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 11 2016 16:04 GMT
#1574
I fail to see how you concluded 'null' after a ream of scummy or NAI behaviour unless you are really putting that much stock in your tone read.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 11 2016 16:04 GMT
#1575
On September 12 2016 01:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:Eat a bag of dicks, asshole. + Show Spoiler +
http://i.giphy.com/DMCHbTE0n9Nzq.gif


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 11 2016 16:06 GMT
#1576
On September 12 2016 01:04 Calix wrote:
I fail to see how you concluded 'null' after a ream of scummy or NAI behaviour unless you are really putting that much stock in your tone read.


There's that.

There's also the possibility of him just being a terrible player which would explain all of the scum points I made on him.

He's either bad or scum in my world basically.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 11 2016 16:19 GMT
#1577
Need to pack stuff and travel for a bit will pop in later.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 17:11 GMT
#1578
On September 12 2016 01:19 Vivax wrote:
Need to pack stuff and travel for a bit will pop in later.


wow master of fucking dodging game changing points here
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 11 2016 17:29 GMT
#1579
On September 12 2016 02:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2016 01:19 Vivax wrote:
Need to pack stuff and travel for a bit will pop in later.


wow master of fucking dodging game changing points here

Blazinghand did it better.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2016 17:33 GMT
#1580
comment on my posts whore
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