• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:18
CEST 17:18
KST 00:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow6[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30
Community News
MaNa leaves Team Liquid14$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy5GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow Leta's ASL Ro24 Review The Korean Terminology Thread ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The China Politics Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1798 users

[M][T] Haunted Mansion 3 - Page 68

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 66 67 68 69 70 155 Next
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 10 2016 21:52 GMT
#1341
On September 11 2016 06:52 Calix wrote:
Superbia's logic is not consistent. He says we should look at the people defending the ML and that 'town would never defend TT in that situation' but is uncritically town-reading NU despite him defending the ML too. And he has said nothing on how NU defending TT isn't scummy yet my defense is.


I think NU is town. Especially after his "look at me too" posts. Though the WIFOM may be real.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 10 2016 21:53 GMT
#1342
Though I did dive on both you and tumble because of gut. Which is pretty much always correct.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 10 2016 21:53 GMT
#1343
~10% error margin.
Minimal effort.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 10 2016 21:54 GMT
#1344
On September 11 2016 06:51 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:48 Damdred wrote:
@Super just hypothetical what's the point of defending a 100% lynch as scum?


It's instinctual to "bend towards the truth" when you have too much information. Like you're more likely to call town town. Especially if they're being scum read.


I may actually be completely wrong on Calix btw. I need to re-read EoD1.


Just follow with me for a moment as I'm working through this.

Lets say that you are a mid to high tier player (as I think every one in this game is). You rolled scum, you already have a scum read on the person getting lynched.

Its wifom partly, but what's the point to flipping your read bringing ore attention to yourself when your ere being 80% town read just for a I told you so at that point?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:54 GMT
#1345
That's called constipation.

But seriously, fuck 'gut reads' to high hell.

And if you think I'm relenting on my read of you because you might 'reconsider' your shitty 'scum-read' then you can suck it.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 10 2016 21:54 GMT
#1346
On September 11 2016 06:54 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:51 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:48 Damdred wrote:
@Super just hypothetical what's the point of defending a 100% lynch as scum?


It's instinctual to "bend towards the truth" when you have too much information. Like you're more likely to call town town. Especially if they're being scum read.


I may actually be completely wrong on Calix btw. I need to re-read EoD1.


Just follow with me for a moment as I'm working through this.

Lets say that you are a mid to high tier player (as I think every one in this game is). You rolled scum, you already have a scum read on the person getting lynched.

Its wifom partly, but what's the point to flipping your read bringing ore attention to yourself when your ere being 80% town read just for a I told you so at that point?


Who are we talking about here specifically?
Minimal effort.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 10 2016 21:54 GMT
#1347
On September 11 2016 06:44 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:37 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:36 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:35 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:31 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:28 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:27 Calix wrote:
Damdred had 2 votes. HF had 2 votes until I voted for him within the last 10 minutes.

Continue to mischaracterise the situation, why don't you?


Did you actually try to convince people to go on damdred? I recall you actually being pretty quiet during the final (and most important) hour.


Yes, idiot.

And the overall response was "Damdred can be useful if he's town" and "TT is a better option, let's sheep his train"

You said yourself that "TT would have posted if he was town" - how do I argue with such stellar reasoning exactly?


I'll see when I reread EoD.


You haven't answered how I would have countered that kind of point.

Your reasoning for joining the TT train is extremely weak and you have nothing to say about that when you were proven wrong, eh?


TT is a good town who literally stopped posting when someone put pressure on him. Like I am expecting him, as town, to come in and defend himself or at least do fucking something.


lol so the possibility of him being legitimately AFK never occurred to you? Calling bullshit.


For an entire day and a half? Right at the point when pressure is applied to him? Was highly unlikely.

The fact remains that TT was indeed objectively scummy and that people have defended him for completely shitty reasons. As it stands, we, as town, should always look at the people who defended him because:
- There was literally no good reason to believe he is town as town because towns never know for certain. There simply is no(t enough) town-alignment-indicative information provided by TT to ever read him town, and all the reasons to put pressure on him and/or read him mafia.
- Therefore; a town should never defend TT because they should never read him town. UNLESS it is strictly BECAUSE people are defending TT (mafia-defense etc.).
- Also it is possible that a town null-reads TT but would much rather push his own target, but that's different from defending.


If a train is utter shit, the trained player is in most cases TOWN. Calix and I have explained many times how the train was shit and that TT was most likely town given this. Do you not do VCA in TL?

Also, we were pushing for Damdred, but it did not get attention because the scum were most likely drawing everyone's attention to TT, leaving our case in the shadows.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 10 2016 21:55 GMT
#1348
On September 11 2016 06:54 Calix wrote:
That's called constipation.

But seriously, fuck 'gut reads' to high hell.

And if you think I'm relenting on my read of you because you might 'reconsider' your shitty 'scum-read' then you can suck it.


I'm only scared that I may lose too much town favor in terms of votes.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 10 2016 21:56 GMT
#1349
On September 11 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:44 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:37 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:36 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:35 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:32 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:31 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:28 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:27 Calix wrote:
Damdred had 2 votes. HF had 2 votes until I voted for him within the last 10 minutes.

Continue to mischaracterise the situation, why don't you?


Did you actually try to convince people to go on damdred? I recall you actually being pretty quiet during the final (and most important) hour.


Yes, idiot.

And the overall response was "Damdred can be useful if he's town" and "TT is a better option, let's sheep his train"

You said yourself that "TT would have posted if he was town" - how do I argue with such stellar reasoning exactly?


I'll see when I reread EoD.


You haven't answered how I would have countered that kind of point.

Your reasoning for joining the TT train is extremely weak and you have nothing to say about that when you were proven wrong, eh?


TT is a good town who literally stopped posting when someone put pressure on him. Like I am expecting him, as town, to come in and defend himself or at least do fucking something.


lol so the possibility of him being legitimately AFK never occurred to you? Calling bullshit.


For an entire day and a half? Right at the point when pressure is applied to him? Was highly unlikely.

The fact remains that TT was indeed objectively scummy and that people have defended him for completely shitty reasons. As it stands, we, as town, should always look at the people who defended him because:
- There was literally no good reason to believe he is town as town because towns never know for certain. There simply is no(t enough) town-alignment-indicative information provided by TT to ever read him town, and all the reasons to put pressure on him and/or read him mafia.
- Therefore; a town should never defend TT because they should never read him town. UNLESS it is strictly BECAUSE people are defending TT (mafia-defense etc.).
- Also it is possible that a town null-reads TT but would much rather push his own target, but that's different from defending.


If a train is utter shit, the trained player is in most cases TOWN. Calix and I have explained many times how the train was shit and that TT was most likely town given this. Do you not do VCA in TL?

Also, we were pushing for Damdred, but it did not get attention because the scum were most likely drawing everyone's attention to TT, leaving our case in the shadows.


What the fuck is a VCA.
Minimal effort.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 10 2016 21:56 GMT
#1350
On September 11 2016 06:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:31 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Calix, you've got to interact with me if you want us to be efficient. I town-read you. Now more than ever is the time you have to collaborate with me.


Wild prediction: this guy is getting shot tonight.


I actually predict that the mafia'll shoot Vivax over me because he has site experience and it would be framing you, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was found riddled with bullets tomorrow morning. Both of us are so widely tr'ed that we're as close as we can get to confirmed towns in this setup.

Then again, they might WIFOM and shoot someone else.


Did you have both me and Vivax as townreads? Someone needs to check at some point.

Tbf I just think you're town, never a lynch target, and on the wrong side of the argument.

Yes, I did have you as lean-town. What is your point though?

Yes, TT's flip proved that, right? zzz
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 10 2016 21:56 GMT
#1351
Vivax does too sometimes. Remember Nut?
On September 11 2016 06:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:43 Calix wrote:
I would propose not directing the shot because I recall the scum have some Doctor role that allows them access to the TPR chats if they heal correctly or some shit.


That's what I said 4 times, dear. >_>

Show nested quote +
Also stop saying what I said.

(^ Shapelog quote)

Read the first 15 pages of this thread. Literally ALL of your posts were repeating what I had said 5 minutes earlier. All of them. Fuck off.

Bold is wrong, and I don't even had to reread.

Ik i was the first to talk about Vivax posting. I also have different views in those pages as well IIRC.

So no.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 10 2016 21:56 GMT
#1352
On September 11 2016 06:54 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:54 Damdred wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:51 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:48 Damdred wrote:
@Super just hypothetical what's the point of defending a 100% lynch as scum?


It's instinctual to "bend towards the truth" when you have too much information. Like you're more likely to call town town. Especially if they're being scum read.


I may actually be completely wrong on Calix btw. I need to re-read EoD1.


Just follow with me for a moment as I'm working through this.

Lets say that you are a mid to high tier player (as I think every one in this game is). You rolled scum, you already have a scum read on the person getting lynched.

Its wifom partly, but what's the point to flipping your read bringing ore attention to yourself when your ere being 80% town read just for a I told you so at that point?


Who are we talking about here specifically?


Let's not nAMe names lets just answer honestly
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 10 2016 21:57 GMT
#1353
On September 11 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:48 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:31 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Calix, you've got to interact with me if you want us to be efficient. I town-read you. Now more than ever is the time you have to collaborate with me.


Wild prediction: this guy is getting shot tonight.


I actually predict that the mafia'll shoot Vivax over me because he has site experience and it would be framing you, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was found riddled with bullets tomorrow morning. Both of us are so widely tr'ed that we're as close as we can get to confirmed towns in this setup.

Then again, they might WIFOM and shoot someone else.


Did you have both me and Vivax as townreads? Someone needs to check at some point.

Tbf I just think you're town, never a lynch target, and on the wrong side of the argument.

Yes, I did have you as lean-town. What is your point though?

Yes, TT's flip proved that, right? zzz


1. Something that's probably irrelevant.

2. No.
Minimal effort.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:57 GMT
#1354
Also I haven't used TT's mislynch as a "I told you so" thing. You people keep saying "Calix defended TT" but you haven't said what I would actually get out of it.

I'm not using TT's mislynch to push a scum-read on anyone. I'm not saying "I told you so". I'm not saying I am town for defending TT. I am not saying I am town for making this post "cuz WIFOM lul"

But fuck WIFOM for a second...what exactly would scum!Calix get out of this if not those things?
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 10 2016 21:57 GMT
#1355
On September 11 2016 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:54 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:54 Damdred wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:51 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:48 Damdred wrote:
@Super just hypothetical what's the point of defending a 100% lynch as scum?


It's instinctual to "bend towards the truth" when you have too much information. Like you're more likely to call town town. Especially if they're being scum read.


I may actually be completely wrong on Calix btw. I need to re-read EoD1.


Just follow with me for a moment as I'm working through this.

Lets say that you are a mid to high tier player (as I think every one in this game is). You rolled scum, you already have a scum read on the person getting lynched.

Its wifom partly, but what's the point to flipping your read bringing ore attention to yourself when your ere being 80% town read just for a I told you so at that point?


Who are we talking about here specifically?


Let's not nAMe names lets just answer honestly


If someone scum scumread TT early on they're somewhat likely to join the waffling near EoD. Or dig in.
Minimal effort.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#1356
Also if this site doesn't do VCA and that's the reason this argument is taking place, I'm going to brain myself with a crowbar.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#1357
On September 11 2016 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:54 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:54 Damdred wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:51 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:48 Damdred wrote:
@Super just hypothetical what's the point of defending a 100% lynch as scum?


It's instinctual to "bend towards the truth" when you have too much information. Like you're more likely to call town town. Especially if they're being scum read.


I may actually be completely wrong on Calix btw. I need to re-read EoD1.


Just follow with me for a moment as I'm working through this.

Lets say that you are a mid to high tier player (as I think every one in this game is). You rolled scum, you already have a scum read on the person getting lynched.

Its wifom partly, but what's the point to flipping your read bringing ore attention to yourself when your ere being 80% town read just for a I told you so at that point?


Who are we talking about here specifically?


Let's not nAMe names lets just answer honestly

Are you trolling us?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#1358
On September 11 2016 06:23 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:
UPDATE -- SINCE I THINK THAT CALIX IS TOWN, I WILL MAKE A LAST WILL IN WHICH I WILL INCLUDE INFORMATION ONLY SHE CAN KNOW. SHE WILL CONFIRM THAT MY LW IS IN FACT MINE (if she is town).

@scott1337 -- Do not shoot N1. Your shot is most likely going to be neutered by the Death Whisperer.

the last will stuff falls into sketchy rules area that may or may not result in mid action. I'd be careful and check with a host first.
and Scott should shoot Hf. something something "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" plus it means Hf won't get a chance to shoot calix


Whenever you wanna stop slipping :D
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 10 2016 21:59 GMT
#1359
On September 11 2016 06:51 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:48 Damdred wrote:
@Super just hypothetical what's the point of defending a 100% lynch as scum?


It's instinctual to "bend towards the truth" when you have too much information. Like you're more likely to call town town. Especially if they're being scum read.


I may actually be completely wrong on Calix btw. I need to re-read EoD1.

Given that Damdred only has town-reads and that you think that scum are more likely to town-read town, what is your read on him?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 10 2016 21:59 GMT
#1360
Some of us do vote count analysis. Some do not.
Prev 1 66 67 68 69 70 155 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 339
Hui .305
Lowko270
ProTech127
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 12140
Calm 6558
Bisu 3810
Horang2 2081
Jaedong 1527
Mini 649
EffOrt 548
Stork 446
BeSt 427
firebathero 342
[ Show more ]
Larva 241
Soulkey 177
actioN 158
Hyun 151
Zeus 139
Rush 139
Pusan 107
ggaemo 86
Dewaltoss 73
[sc1f]eonzerg 58
Killer 55
Sea.KH 50
Mind 49
ToSsGirL 44
zelot 40
Nal_rA 28
Barracks 27
Rock 19
Movie 18
Hm[arnc] 16
Terrorterran 12
IntoTheRainbow 12
GoRush 12
Bale 11
Sexy 7
Dota 2
qojqva2193
syndereN394
420jenkins239
League of Legends
Reynor43
Counter-Strike
fl0m4095
olofmeister3523
Other Games
B2W.Neo1014
hiko981
XBOCT364
crisheroes321
Pyrionflax177
KnowMe113
RotterdaM103
QueenE81
ArmadaUGS60
FrodaN39
Mew2King36
Trikslyr20
Organizations
Other Games
WardiTV670
BasetradeTV599
Counter-Strike
PGL251
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 18
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Shameless 21
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen50
League of Legends
• Nemesis1971
• TFBlade1447
• Jankos879
Other Games
• Shiphtur56
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
42m
OSC
8h 42m
Afreeca Starleague
18h 42m
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
18h 42m
GSL
20h 42m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 8h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 17h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
IPSL
5 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL
6 days
IPSL
6 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.