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On September 17 2016 05:44 Damdred wrote:
I voted hf, somewhat try to save my own skin because I am not 100% of him being scum.
I also hate that all three lunches are people who were on scum shape.
Anyway I'm probably lynched here in any regard so this is what I think.
Hf is possible scum here, he had a train ran against him d1, scum should,be more interested in lynching him in that situation instead of afking on tt. Vivax also puts up decent points.
Super I'm more sure of. Doesn't care about game state, progression is weird on shape and how he reacts to each of the lunches. Including things I said earlier.
Palmar and tw are the last two I'm a bit meh at. But I see more town in palmar than tw.
It's a hard game and I've been busy so sorry about the effort this game.
Holy fuck you ARE mafia
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On September 15 2016 09:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +I'd like to townread shapelog cause the fuba stuff started jumping to me when I found the energy to actually read his posts (which still ended up being only his last filter page and some from the early game) and he mentioned fubas flip floppy post parts, but it also felt like he was casually throwing suspicion at me at some points which seemed out of character. But other than this his early posts seemed townie to me. Show nested quote +
All this vote bullshit is wifom anyway I literally don't care about the vote I care about shape being the person I want to lynch next if we don't get super or fuba.
You can wifom ride all you want it's not going to save him from me. The leeway time for my regular game buds is over.
His first page is fear mongering on me all the time without ever calling me mafia. He spends an entire post discussing how a guide to reading him by rsoultin is wrong, in answer to Damdred. He spent the post arguing against Damdred that his TR on shape is wrong, basically.
I'm still trying to figure out if there's more. The best thing I can think of in his defense is that he pointed out how fuba was flip floppy on some points. But otherwise I'm really unimpressed by shape this game, he loves to motivate town with youtube vids as well as town which is lacking this moment. He usually also is a much more constant presence. Not this in and out shape.
Relevant quotes from same day. Miraculous read turnaround. Gets his strongest scum read from shape. Fuck shape is so mafia for these reasons that existed when i town read him. Screw my scum reads here's a random wagon. - vivax 'the mafia' nubbins
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On September 17 2016 05:50 Vivax wrote:Nope I suspected fuba before, but when I dived Shape's latest page, I noticed that he raised good points on fuba, I looked at fuba's post in question and pointed out everything that made him suspicious to me. I'm sure fuba remembers so he can confirm. Which by now isn't really relevant cause as you see Shape tried to paint him scum (mehish argument, scum can always bus), and more importantly, I have reason to assume fuba is town cause I'm sure you and fuba are the mafia. And your next misrep attempt goes into the trash.
Nice slip fuba vivax scum team
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Don't say I didn't warn you about absolutely everything while you all fucked off.
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I'm not voting damdred over vivax and I don't care.
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Looking at these votes;
Vivax needed assistance lynching me, in 0 scenarios does scott go from trusting me to voting me. Resd my case on him because it's amazing his sjape vote appears from nowhere. Shape was his tkwn read.
Lynch fuba? Because he thinks mafias end game is to lynch him but votes me the person who has been defending him kber vivax who has scum read him non stop and then ditched it today to lynch me.
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This was super town favoured btw
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I didn't vig shot anybody 
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My lynch was still objectively terrible and you should all feel bad.
Also I've read all the QTs now. Calix you played very well, probably got a bit too taken up with arguing with your town reads that were critical of you but I can't blame you because I do the exact same thing.
NU you played well, were a good voice of reason at most times but probably need to cut back on the scum slips and wifom.
Uh other people you need to stop signing up to games if you're willing to put 0 effort in. There was no real analysis of any post after day 2 save from me??? You all afkd and came back to do random shit tone reads and afk again. If you're not willing to commit to a full game then join obs qt because you sure did play like one.
But despite crappy afk you somehow managed to look towny day 1 to 2 so not too bad after all.
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Oh also the "scum read" on you day 1 Calix from me and damdred is because we have quite a bus heavy, at times, meta and so anyone suggesting with ferocity that it must be a mislynch will come off looking weird and knowing too much. I like to yell and be certain of things (even without reading filters) because it convinces people to follow and the general meta tends to be sheeping me for some reason.
Also, yeh, I probably shouldn't play because while I do spam a lot of reads they've all just been surface thoughts and no real effort into reading people's filters like I used to. Work life really makes me bad, hence the bad past few games (even if we did win 2/3) I've not been as consistent as I used to be.
But the worst part is putting in effort with no time to play and nobody reciprocating or even talking to me about it. Shame. Shammeeeee.
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16:51:28] Calix: also is HF always like this?
[16:51:30] Calix: just wondering
[16:55:38] live:deniztur214_1: i've played with him just once before, read few other games.
[16:55:53] live:deniztur214_1: first game i read he ragequitted and voted himself as mafia d1
[16:56:36] live:deniztur214_1: second he fakeclaimed rec copcheck on a townie then they both got lynched
[16:57:38] live:deniztur214_1: You know what its not much of an alignment tell but he said before joining game on few other places he's caught in work and unable to play mafia from there anymore
[16:57:46] live:deniztur214_1: but he's got a 23 page filter
[16:57:54] live:deniztur214_1: i think thats more town than scum
This makes me sad to not be remembered as the best player ever 
Probably the worst games I've played ever! Read some of my profile, post count especially doesn't count. :D
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Also Skynx i scum read you n2 because you had the exact same thought process as me, I had it before you and then you made an entire case on me being mafia for having the same thought process as you.
I even pointed out it was wrong and I had the thoughts first and you still scum read me.
Like you, I also weigh mind meld quite highly and that just didn't quite add up enough for me. No hard feelings though, I got the revenge for the vig shot in the palmar game, I hold no grudges
Nice save too ^^
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On September 21 2016 10:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I felt like I played fine Day 1. Oh well.
Day 1 was your best day, you established being town and were logical and had a solid approach. It was good.
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On September 21 2016 15:25 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 15:07 Holyflare wrote:On September 21 2016 10:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I felt like I played fine Day 1. Oh well. Day 1 was your best day, you established being town and were logical and had a solid approach. It was good. How do you think I can improve?
Being alive.
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For real though scott I think in general you've just got to be really forthcoming with everything you're thinking. You have good ideas and a general idea of what to look for that's scummy and that's encouraging. The only thing to be worked on is weighing up the pros and cons of a person and valuing whether they are mafia over someone else.
Everyone does scummy things but lynch the people that do the most scummy things! I think a good way to play is by finding people you think are towny first and foremost and then that narrows down your scum pool quite easily (make sure your town reads aren't shit).
Reading filters after having read the whole game is imo the best way to play. Reading filters on their own can make people look bad without context. If someone looks bad in context then filter dive and have a look at their overview of the game, if it's bad and no contributions and just popping up to say nothing then they are likely mafia.
Gotta put yourself in the mindset of a person trying to survive amd mislynch people/look good and the circumstances of the game. Vivax is a good example, his Shapelog read doesn't really fit with what he should be thinking, he got his top scum read reading Shapelog filter but somehow his town read dropped and became a scum read whem nobody was talking about shape and vivax didn't even particularly push it.
Also there's nk wifom which is very likely wifom but also not :D
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If you look through our qt I'm constantly weighing up whether a player is mafia or town based on what they are doing and have done in an overview. It helped narrow down the pool substantially.
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On September 21 2016 22:26 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 22:16 Damdred wrote:
We love our shenanigans more than we like bussing I think, nothing like switching the lynch vote with less than a minute to go after a solid day of working out who is scum, RIP TH ELIFE This is what I hate most about the current meta personally, 47h of work for those that did the work down the drain, and >90% of the time town get it wrong, you guys honestly got very lucky there as Shape wasn't able to defend himself (regardless of alignment), he's had issues where he's forced to disappear as both alignments. Holyflare lynch IMO was beyond awful. But the spirits/ghosts (unlike last game) saved it.
Personally I only support shenanigans if you think the person being lynched is towny and you want a switch, such as on damdred. There is no alternative to a "47 hour talked about case", people quite often spew town at deadline for some reason and if you don't do it then you're lynching town which is more dumb than switching to a higer chance than 0% potential mafia person.
If it hits mafia, loads of info too. If it hits town then also info!
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