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On September 15 2016 10:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 10:31 Grackaroni wrote:On September 15 2016 10:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 15 2016 10:01 Grackaroni wrote:
lol nope I just had a total epiphany between the minute I posted that and right now. Holyflare killed Skynx because in his mind he's going to look strange in LYLO for not dying even though nobody else is thinking that.
It makes way more sense than that same reasoning being applied to Vivax because I don't think Vivax would ever think that. I don't understand why you make those conclusions. I would find it suspicious that HF hasn't died in LYLO as scum has the possibility of disabling all protection. It seems like you are trying to frame HF here because you are giving YOUR reasoning to why HF wasn't killed and are expecting others to agree with it by presenting it as a fact. Why would Vivax not think that? On September 15 2016 09:37 Holyflare wrote:
Also I'm going to trust that Calix would have left a last will or voted nu if he was mafia so I can town read him without reading a single thing he's saying and flame calix if she's wrong end game I want to change alignment just to see that happening. It's actually not because HF didn't die. I didn't expect HF to die. HF was saying that Vivax made the kill for that reason which made me realize that this would be a more plausible motive for HF than Vivax. You went from "Holyflare killed Skynx because in his mind he's going to look strange in LYLO for not dying even though nobody else is thinking that. " to "more plausible motive" in two posts. Inconsistent to say the least. Why are you making a case/post if your goal is not to convince? You are marginalizing your own posts. Show nested quote +And I get that you think that HF is super townie but I don't think you understand that HF is a really strong mafia player. Definitely in the running for the best on this site. He's super active and opinionated regardless of alignment. Yes, I understand that he's a great player. That doesn't make him scummy nor does it change my stance on him. I never said that activity nor opinions were AI.
They're the same reason.
HF said that Vivax is mafia for the night kill because Vivax doesn't want to look bad in LYLO for still being alive. Knowing HF I think that's a much more plausible motive for HF than Vivax.
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You just said vivax pulled Shapelog read out of his anus and somehow magiced away his town read and ditched his scum reads
But now I'm mafia because I made some good nk wifom and actually proved his read was bull shit?
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I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.
These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me.
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On September 15 2016 11:07 Holyflare wrote:
You just said vivax pulled Shapelog read out of his anus and somehow magiced away his town read and ditched his scum reads
But now I'm mafia because I made some good nk wifom and actually proved his read was bull shit?
Well no if Vivax is mafia it's for withholding thoughts on Shapelog. He didn't ditch a scum read on Damdred as I've already explained. But yeah I spend a lot of time wavering and that pushed me back a bit.
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On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.
These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me.
Who are you referring to here?
Well activity wise you are a very strong scum player. I still think you do a lot of stupid things like make reads you wouldn't make as town and I thought you were scum in the obs QT as well.
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On September 15 2016 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.
These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me. Who are you referring to here? Well activity wise you are a very strong scum player. I still think you do a lot of stupid things like make reads you wouldn't make as town and I thought you were scum in the obs QT as well.
*In the Star Wars game.
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Also I'm still of the opinion that Vivax is pretty likely town.
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On September 15 2016 11:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 11:07 Holyflare wrote:
You just said vivax pulled Shapelog read out of his anus and somehow magiced away his town read and ditched his scum reads
But now I'm mafia because I made some good nk wifom and actually proved his read was bull shit? Well no if Vivax is mafia it's for withholding thoughts on Shapelog. He didn't ditch a scum read on Damdred as I've already explained. But yeah I spend a lot of time wavering and that pushed me back a bit.
I never even mentioned anything about damdred.
I'm saying he bull shitted a reason to switch on his partner to look good later when Shapelog dies (could have been modkilled). He didn't wager damdred would look towny and me and skynx switch.
There's no way vivax TOWN READS Shapelog and goes to dinner and MAGICALLY finds a reason to scum read Shapelog who he town reads and who he got his main scum read (fuba) from. He showed absolutely no hesitancy when I told him the votes were manipulated either. None whatsoever.
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On September 15 2016 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.
These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me. Who are you referring to here? Well activity wise you are a very strong scum player. I still think you do a lot of stupid things like make reads you wouldn't make as town and I thought you were scum in the obs QT as well.
Quote reads or this is bull shit. I can explain every read and move I make.
As mafia I'm 100x more careful.
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On September 15 2016 11:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.
These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me. Who are you referring to here? Well activity wise you are a very strong scum player. I still think you do a lot of stupid things like make reads you wouldn't make as town and I thought you were scum in the obs QT as well. Quote reads or this is bull shit. I can explain every read and move I make. As mafia I'm 100x more careful.
lol I already did with TT.
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On September 15 2016 11:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 11:10 Grackaroni wrote:On September 15 2016 11:07 Holyflare wrote:
You just said vivax pulled Shapelog read out of his anus and somehow magiced away his town read and ditched his scum reads
But now I'm mafia because I made some good nk wifom and actually proved his read was bull shit? Well no if Vivax is mafia it's for withholding thoughts on Shapelog. He didn't ditch a scum read on Damdred as I've already explained. But yeah I spend a lot of time wavering and that pushed me back a bit. I never even mentioned anything about damdred. I'm saying he bull shitted a reason to switch on his partner to look good later when Shapelog dies (could have been modkilled). He didn't wager damdred would look towny and me and skynx switch. There's no way vivax TOWN READS Shapelog and goes to dinner and MAGICALLY finds a reason to scum read Shapelog who he town reads and who he got his main scum read (fuba) from. He showed absolutely no hesitancy when I told him the votes were manipulated either. None whatsoever.
I'll let Vivax defend himself but the posts were made over a day apart not a dinner.
I don't really want to get in another big spat with you. Go to bed HF.
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No he lists someone as town and then never is mentioned again and then after dinner just appears?
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On September 15 2016 12:00 Holyflare wrote:
No he lists someone as town and then never is mentioned again and then after dinner just appears?
Ah I see you are referring to a different post than the original Shapelog read.
I went back to check and he is literally the first one to suggest Shape. He did so even before TW.
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I don't even understand how you can function after playing mafia until 4 every night.
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I am exhausted and burnt out and yesterday i forgot portions of my journey and ended up where i needed to be.
So functioning just great
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On September 15 2016 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 12:00 Holyflare wrote:
No he lists someone as town and then never is mentioned again and then after dinner just appears?
Ah I see you are referring to a different post than the original Shapelog read. I went back to check and he is literally the first one to suggest Shape. He did so even before TW.
Where?
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On September 14 2016 01:51 Vivax wrote:Palmar you usually keep your distance from me as if I had leprosy, now you find my stuff on fuba solid and even think I'm new and improved? If your reads keep being wrong and you don't die in the night we will have a score to settle, you and I. Trying to be buds with me feels out of character you usually just ignore me or tell someone why I'm town, and then you never sound so praising (except when I'm smurfing and you don't know it's Vivax behind the name). Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:54 Damdred wrote:
It's cause I'm town and the scum team is scared of me.
Boo.
Also think palmar might be town rip the dream. Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:14 Damdred wrote:On September 11 2016 03:13 Skynx wrote:On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it. It's a very strong opening. But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because: On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
But... he's not mafia? I mean nearly all these stuff are applicable to Palmar as well. However you are ready to ignore him cuz of meta. You say not defending when pressure doesn't fit town!TT meta but in meantime TT is totally entirely afk from this game while Palmar is pretty much here but refuses to post any content. Why are you not considering him? Palmar can have a date with the noose Monday but not really going to consider him on a weekend and that's the main reason. This led me to check on Palmar, cause it's the only thing I could find in Damdred so far that seems unexplained. His other reads seem set in stone except the one on Palmar here. Then I see the post where he says "remember your place peon" (lol) and proceeds to coach the guy, so I just think he's town, for that and for gut. Mafia Damdred is nice guy Damdred/fake anger Damdred. I also don't think he would randomly put my name out there for scum if he were mafia. He'd be more comfy just tring me all the time. In other words, I think mafia is still super/fuba + shape/palmar/HF if alive for too long. S hape especially has dropped off a lot activity wise and if anyone is going to shenanny, shenanny on shape. I'll join you if I make it, at least one of the unreadables will be gone. Don't really have much else to add on him.
On September 14 2016 04:04 Tumblewood wrote:
does anyone want to move to shape
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Let me ask you this, do you have any reason not to kill Palmar right now?
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On September 15 2016 12:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Let me ask you this, do you have any reason not to kill Palmar right now?
oo I can answer this
the answer is no
even if Palmar is a good player he has been a do-nothing this game, which makes him somewhat likely scum. Damdred falls into the same category except people have been on his case for quite a while instead of for 7 minutes
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Off to work i go 
1 hour sleep best sleep
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