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On September 15 2016 08:31 Grackaroni wrote:
I was going to try to check but it doesn't look easy. I'll take your word on being bad at mafia because I remember Calix was shitting on your scum play earlier.

The reason I said that about the night kills is that there actually aren't a lot of people I could see killing Skynx. A lot of people way overvalue certain players i.e. why some people think Palmar would be a good kill here.

On September 11 2016 03:02 Vivax wrote:
Still unsure about fuba. Went through the guys voting TT atm and HF was the guy who originated that scumread, superbia chimed in but decided to instead vote TW for his read on TT. Haven't heard much from him since.

Damdred adds to HF's points that his entrance was forced, that TT lurks as scum.

As for fuba I have no clue what his reasons for voting TT are. The closest I got was this. Where he says to check his post above, but in that post he's adressing NUs posts. So still no clue what fubas reason for the vote on TT are. On page 1 he spends more time talking about TW than TT whom he's voting. If anyone has any idea what fuba is voting TT for, enlighten me.

His biggish posts are townie but that might be wall of text bias.

On September 12 2016 06:04 Vivax wrote:


Wut? He said it before the lynch, he then flipped town, so Damdred's meta turned out to be wrong. Why should I jump on somebody just for being wrong? The meta was legit, but turned out shitty.

I might as well jump on anyone else for being on TT. But it was a solid lynch. I'm more concerned that I spotted the same pattern adopted on TT being used by you, but it's a big picture thing, and Damdred wasn't nearly as hyperbole as you on TT, or TW now.

On September 12 2016 08:37 Vivax wrote:
Encrypted last wills, or how to turn a game of mafia into a Dan Brown book. Back to real business fun's over. A little test for HF if you will, finding out who wrote this before answering is against the rules, play fair:



1. Is bolded true?
2. Do you think this post is scummy?
3. Do you think this would ever be able to reach a correct conclusion as to your alignment and this player would believe he could?
4. Once you find out who posted this (you may now), why does he mention you in this way after stating another intention in writing this?


A few more would come to mind but that'd be an assault on your attention span.

I answered to your Damdred stuff, manus manum lavat.

I'd like to townread shapelog cause the fuba stuff started jumping to me when I found the energy to actually read his posts (which still ended up being only his last filter page and some from the early game) and he mentioned fubas flip floppy post parts, but it also felt like he was casually throwing suspicion at me at some points which seemed out of character. But other than this his early posts seemed townie to me.

On September 14 2016 01:18 Vivax wrote:
Either way I have a dinner in 2-3 hours, dunno if I can make it for EoD. It's really really important we get a wagon going on fuba or super I don't want to come back and see a shenanny lynch.

Going to take a closer look at Damdred, just gut wise he has been appearing scummier than when he was mafia in his last games (which would mean he's town) . This game feels like one of the games where everyone relies on tone reading people and when somebody (read:I) goes for post analysis it's rejected as irrelevant.

Remember the me vs you vs yamato lylo damdred?

In other words, I think mafia is still super/fuba + shape/palmar/HF if alive for too long. Shape especially has dropped off a lot activity wise and if anyone is going to shenanny, shenanny on shape. I'll join you if I make it, at least one of the unreadables will be gone. Don't really have much else to add on him.

On September 14 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote:
I'm back. Damdred is being voted by calix, presumably, and Shape by scott.
Fuba is a read magnet when it comes to his posts. It feels like lots of people think he's town but keep calling his posts bad.

If neither fuba nor super are happening I'm voting Shape. Not going to sit on solely my own wagon this time.

On September 14 2016 05:26 Vivax wrote:


I am not aware of such a thing.

On September 14 2016 05:45 Vivax wrote:


What if he doesn't think damdred is mafia?
All this vote bullshit is wifom anyway I literally don't care about the vote I care about shape being the person I want to lynch next if we don't get super or fuba.

You can wifom ride all you want it's not going to save him from me. The leeway time for my regular game buds is over.

His first page is fear mongering on me all the time without ever calling me mafia. He spends an entire post discussing how a guide to reading him by rsoultin is wrong, in answer to Damdred. He spent the post arguing against Damdred that his TR on shape is wrong, basically.

I'm still trying to figure out if there's more. The best thing I can think of in his defense is that he pointed out how fuba was flip floppy on some points. But otherwise I'm really unimpressed by shape this game, he loves to motivate town with youtube vids as well as town which is lacking this moment. He usually also is a much more constant presence. Not this in and out shape.

And then there's the PoE, I'm certainly not ending on a wagon that HF/fuba/Palmar/super were on first, besides that I don't think Damdred and Skynx are our best lynches for today.

I'd like to townread shapelog cause the fuba stuff started jumping to me when I found the energy to actually read his posts (which still ended up being only his last filter page and some from the early game) and he mentioned fubas flip floppy post parts, but it also felt like he was casually throwing suspicion at me at some points which seemed out of character. But other than this his early posts seemed townie to me.

All this vote bullshit is wifom anyway I literally don't care about the vote I care about shape being the person I want to lynch next if we don't get super or fuba.

You can wifom ride all you want it's not going to save him from me. The leeway time for my regular game buds is over.

His first page is fear mongering on me all the time without ever calling me mafia. He spends an entire post discussing how a guide to reading him by rsoultin is wrong, in answer to Damdred. He spent the post arguing against Damdred that his TR on shape is wrong, basically.

I'm still trying to figure out if there's more. The best thing I can think of in his defense is that he pointed out how fuba was flip floppy on some points. But otherwise I'm really unimpressed by shape this game, he loves to motivate town with youtube vids as well as town which is lacking this moment. He usually also is a much more constant presence. Not this in and out shape.

On September 15 2016 10:01 Grackaroni wrote:
lol nope I just had a total epiphany between the minute I posted that and right now. Holyflare killed Skynx because in his mind he's going to look strange in LYLO for not dying even though nobody else is thinking that.

It makes way more sense than that same reasoning being applied to Vivax because I don't think Vivax would ever think that.

On September 15 2016 10:01 Grackaroni wrote:
lol nope I just had a total epiphany between the minute I posted that and right now. Holyflare killed Skynx because in his mind he's going to look strange in LYLO for not dying even though nobody else is thinking that.

It makes way more sense than that same reasoning being applied to Vivax because I don't think Vivax would ever think that.

On September 15 2016 09:37 Holyflare wrote:
Also I'm going to trust that Calix would have left a last will or voted nu if he was mafia so I can town read him without reading a single thing he's saying and flame calix if she's wrong end game

On September 15 2016 10:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:


I don't understand why you make those conclusions.

I would find it suspicious that HF hasn't died in LYLO as scum has the possibility of disabling all protection. It seems like you are trying to frame HF here because you are giving YOUR reasoning to why HF wasn't killed and are expecting others to agree with it by presenting it as a fact.

Why would Vivax not think that?



I want to change alignment just to see that happening.

On September 15 2016 10:31 Grackaroni wrote:

It's actually not because HF didn't die. I didn't expect HF to die. HF was saying that Vivax made the kill for that reason which made me realize that this would be a more plausible motive for HF than Vivax.

Regardless it's not going to convince anyone of anything.

And I get that you think that HF is super townie but I don't think you understand that HF is a really strong mafia player. Definitely in the running for the best on this site. He's super active and opinionated regardless of alignment.