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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 21:58 GMT
#1255
Eww gross EOD post.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 22:03 GMT
#1262
Well "bad town" is appropriate on more than one level.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 22:05 GMT
#1264
You can step it up anytime, lovie. If you're going to criticise the wagons/ players then you should be doing more to propose alternative methods or else you're just flinging shit for the hell of it.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 22:25 GMT
#1267
TT, why do you call Stutters' alignment disappointing?

From your filter, you only seemed to start scum-reading him at EOD when he turned up. Before that you were saying "He's done XYZ but I think he has a good chance of being town/ my gut tells me he is town" so you'll need to walk me through that one.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:19 GMT
#1324
I like how we were still horrendously off on our TPR reads.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:20 GMT
#1325
Also this means that TT tried to use "Calix is scum for being logical" as an argument without the excuse of a red check.

I'm dying.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:22 GMT
#1328
Yeah we shot TT because we figured out that he was the Cop and his random push on Scott would have been good to use the next day.

If that kill had gone through then we would still have a shot but since it didn't, we had no chance.

Jealous forgetting to include TT in his reads plus his random town-read on TT D4 made me think he was the Doctor.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:22 GMT
#1330
lol yeah, we would have never picked Skynx for a TPR hit after that post.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:27 GMT
#1335
From my perspective, I was worried that you would get vig-shot because you were so scummy by EOD. I don't know how the town saw it but I didn't think I would be able to get a lynch away from you at that point.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:28 GMT
#1337
And I know bussing for town cred is a shitty strategy. I only did it because I didn't see another viable option by that point.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:29 GMT
#1340
In general, I think I was way too focused on 'looking townie' with my posting and thus I didn't do enough pushing of mafia objectives. Thus I'm concluding that I played terribly.

I'll take tips from anyone
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:36 GMT
#1345
Well I don't disagree with that assessment. I am very focused and calculating as scum because I am informed and know that I have to mislynch X number of players from a group to win, so you would rarely catch me being aimless as mafia.

I'm trying to work on my emotional control in general (I don't think I'm doing a great job so far, lol) so I'm not sure how valid a metric that is to use when judging my posts.

I'll keep that point in mind. Thank you
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:41 GMT
#1349
On October 04 2016 05:33 NocturneMage wrote:
jesus I couldn't even tell what was going on myself when calix wanted to concede and xata kept playing on, but I think scum should have been prepared for tictock's reaction test or whatever play he was doing to go either way.

I can't argue with the concede - it would have taken two nights for us to knock the prot off before the cop and we were all off on who was prot. almost certain she'd have been redchecked before then.

at one point with the rels kp I thought it was a veteran in the game and not a doc when in reality the damn doc forgot to submit a check.

really unlucky there. the rels kill did allow the d3 mislynch to happen, so they made the most of that.

calix it was a pleasure coaching you, like I said, a lot of good takeaways, I think everyone needs to work on bluesniping but honestly it's hard, even having had people mentor me on that, it's quite hard to do and people who are good can wifom it away.

gg wp town.

also if our qt is shared here (don't care really), xata/luna, don't take offence at my criticism of your posts - just that you lot are a team, and that calix had to work around your posts as a result. all part and parcel there.


You were a great coach too. It was really nice being able to talk through ideas with another person and get a different perspective on things from someone who knows the site meta better.

Where does one go to learn how to TPR-hunt properly? I am so clueless there. We even had TT on N2 but managed to talk ourselves out of that to hit Rels instead.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:43 GMT
#1353
TT is probably my pick for the best town player. He made us overthink things way too much with regards to his posts
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:50 GMT
#1362
On October 04 2016 05:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 05:33 NocturneMage wrote:
jesus I couldn't even tell what was going on myself when calix wanted to concede and xata kept playing on, but I think scum should have been prepared for tictock's reaction test or whatever play he was doing to go either way.

I can't argue with the concede - it would have taken two nights for us to knock the prot off before the cop and we were all off on who was prot. almost certain she'd have been redchecked before then.

at one point with the rels kp I thought it was a veteran in the game and not a doc when in reality the damn doc forgot to submit a check.

really unlucky there. the rels kill did allow the d3 mislynch to happen, so they made the most of that.

calix it was a pleasure coaching you, like I said, a lot of good takeaways, I think everyone needs to work on bluesniping but honestly it's hard, even having had people mentor me on that, it's quite hard to do and people who are good can wifom it away.

gg wp town.

also if our qt is shared here (don't care really), xata/luna, don't take offence at my criticism of your posts - just that you lot are a team, and that calix had to work around your posts as a result. all part and parcel there.


You were a great coach too. It was really nice being able to talk through ideas with another person and get a different perspective on things from someone who knows the site meta better.

Where does one go to learn how to TPR-hunt properly? I am so clueless there. We even had TT on N2 but managed to talk ourselves out of that to hit Rels instead.


Nowhere lol >< Some are really good at it? Chez and VA come to mind. But you'll have people who have been doing this for years and still can't find blues to save their lives


Looks like I'll be falling into the latter category then. Man, I really thought I was onto something with Jealous xD

I dislike associative reads in general. (although I use them occasionally because I am hypocritical) Generally I stick to 'normal' scum-hunting and just use what people have posted. Best way to get around scum bussing each other and the like imo.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:54 GMT
#1367
Aside from that mistake with the cop check (which only meant that Skynx was more resistant to lynching Jealous), I think you did a pretty decent job.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 20:55 GMT
#1372
On October 04 2016 05:53 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 05:50 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 05:43 rsoultin wrote:
On October 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 05:33 NocturneMage wrote:
jesus I couldn't even tell what was going on myself when calix wanted to concede and xata kept playing on, but I think scum should have been prepared for tictock's reaction test or whatever play he was doing to go either way.

I can't argue with the concede - it would have taken two nights for us to knock the prot off before the cop and we were all off on who was prot. almost certain she'd have been redchecked before then.

at one point with the rels kp I thought it was a veteran in the game and not a doc when in reality the damn doc forgot to submit a check.

really unlucky there. the rels kill did allow the d3 mislynch to happen, so they made the most of that.

calix it was a pleasure coaching you, like I said, a lot of good takeaways, I think everyone needs to work on bluesniping but honestly it's hard, even having had people mentor me on that, it's quite hard to do and people who are good can wifom it away.

gg wp town.

also if our qt is shared here (don't care really), xata/luna, don't take offence at my criticism of your posts - just that you lot are a team, and that calix had to work around your posts as a result. all part and parcel there.


You were a great coach too. It was really nice being able to talk through ideas with another person and get a different perspective on things from someone who knows the site meta better.

Where does one go to learn how to TPR-hunt properly? I am so clueless there. We even had TT on N2 but managed to talk ourselves out of that to hit Rels instead.


Nowhere lol >< Some are really good at it? Chez and VA come to mind. But you'll have people who have been doing this for years and still can't find blues to save their lives


Looks like I'll be falling into the latter category then. Man, I really thought I was onto something with Jealous xD

I dislike associative reads in general. (although I use them occasionally because I am hypocritical) Generally I stick to 'normal' scum-hunting and just use what people have posted. Best way to get around scum bussing each other and the like imo.


well i mean it's a bit early to call it quits!

and yeah, some players are pretty good at disassociating, too. that's one of glowingbear's greatest strengths


Half the mafia chat is me arguing with Xatalos over wherever the mafia team were fucked or not.

Then we assumed that I had been red-checked due to TT tinfoiling me out of nowhere and we had already decided that one of us dying on D4 would mean that we would auto-lose, so that was that.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 21:02 GMT
#1376
Yeah, I saw people doing that in my first game here although I didn't bother myself. (died N1)

Not sure if it's a habit that I'll get into though - I am lazy when it comes to night phases because my reads are liable to flip-flopping after a night kill - but I'll try to keep it in mind and post a short LW or some updated thoughts or whatnot.

I really hope the "she hasn't died by Day X, must be scum" argument doesn't get used against me again. I've had that thrown at me back on the old site if I lived past N1 and it was always annoying to deal with >_>
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 21:14 GMT
#1385
That Jealous comment was really conspicuous, TT. Only reason you didn't die N2 was because we thought you might have been the player that the host gave the check to.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 21:19 GMT
#1392
I don't like bussing, lol. I maintain that it's an inferior strategy and definitely not something I often do as scum.
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