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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 30 2016 19:59 GMT
#1160
What's the case on Scott again? I know he had some dubious associations with Lunatic but I don't remember anything else that he's done.

I'm not sure why people are suddenly getting cold feet around Stutters when he hasn't done anything but inquire about Scott.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 30 2016 20:25 GMT
#1164
Yes Stutters, I would appreciate something longer than three lines from you. I'm sure you can understand.

I can even save you some time and tell you to can it with the meta because I won't give a fuck.

Take it while stock lasts!
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 30 2016 20:29 GMT
#1166
Like I said, I don't have much of an opinion on the dude himself so I'm all ears. At the least, this'll be a change in discussion focus which we could do with tbh. I feel like we've been focused a lot on the same 2-3 people.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 10:20 GMT
#1174
You're forgetting that the weekend's started. A drop in activity is only to be expected.

I'm popping out in five. I'll look him over when I get back and I'll probably be around for EOD.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 19:26 GMT
#1191
I don't feel so hot and can't sleep so haven't read the chat properly.

Skimmed the Scott case and I think Stutters is the better option, partly because I think he's scummier than Scott, partly because of policy and a little bit because I'd rather give Scott a better shot to defend himself if possible. I don't think his response is worth noting rn because he seems frustrated due to his RL commitments not game stuff. Stutters has had plenty of opportunities and he's ignored all of them.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 19:31 GMT
#1193
Daneler is just sitting on the sidelines and Xatalos being a smug bastard with his SECRET TOWN-READ GUISE is well, smug. Never have I related to a post as hard as #1190.

Town needs to start fucking doing shit. Picked the wrong time to say that cos it's the weekend but half the players are just popping in with some shitty posts and AFKing again.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 19:37 GMT
#1194
Okay so Stutters' vote is self-preservation so NAI but I find it super-interesting that we have two closely contested trains for the first time this game.

This isn't going anywhere as I don't know what to make of it right now but 100% worth remembering for later.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 19:53 GMT
#1196
Stutters, what do you make of Daneler's push on Lunatic?

I thought the initial case was crap, his follow-up was decent and then he kind of dropped off after that.

In fact, how much have you read up on anyway?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 20:05 GMT
#1204
That went from soppy "let me die" poetry to popcorn real fast, lol.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 20:09 GMT
#1208
It can come from both alignments because he has a contesting train on his arse.

Your insistence on being the master of evasion with what you're getting at is so bad.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 20:17 GMT
#1214
Self-preservation is NAI, dunno why you are acting like it is unless you are making a point on how he's trying to save his arse.

I don't see anything massively townie from Stutters' responses. As you said, the main thing is him actually turning up and posting before he dies (after his reliable inactivity)
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 20:33 GMT
#1221
I don't follow your town-read on Xatalos. Care to explain there?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 20:44 GMT
#1224
The bulk of your defense is self-meta which is flawed because you are aware of said meta.

Activity is not alignment-indicative.

Why would you being dead mean you put less effort in? If I was in your shoes then I would imagine that I'd be putting in more effort because I wouldn't ever have to after today.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 20:56 GMT
#1228
Holy shit, an actual contribution from Xatalos.

Excuse me for a moment, I need to lie down.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 21:03 GMT
#1232
Can we let the meta thing die? That Xat/ Stutters comment has been inflated to legendary proportions.

Xatalos' post boils down to tone, attitude and associations which aren't terrible reasons actually, but the first half of that post didn't need to be hidden.

That TPR part is literally Lunatic 2.0. At least this time, I can see why someone would conclude that he's a TPR from his posts although I think that's just Stutters being cocky. I think Rels came to a similar conclusion re: Stutters being a TPR.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 21:09 GMT
#1234
His whole "I'd never be this bad as scum" shtick (which his 'never getting lynched today' comment fits into) is what I mean there.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 21:21 GMT
#1240
What makes you think Scott > Stutters?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 21:30 GMT
#1244
TT said he was disappearing for something or another.

I don't see Scott ever getting lynched now given the influx of votes on Stutters so I'll review it later when I feel up to the task.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 21:43 GMT
#1248
I want Stutters dead more and I've wanted him dead long before Scott was cased. That's not a defense.

Also I have no idea how you keep overlooking my Stutters read.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 01 2016 21:58 GMT
#1254
On October 02 2016 06:50 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote:
On October 02 2016 06:35 Jealous wrote:
Both cases have pretty big holes imo, and both Scott and a stutters are doing a decent job of playing town coming towards eod. Overall, I'd have to say the case on Scott is marginally stronger, and I'm surprised Calix is defending him like this. Maybe Calix thinks her trains are always best trains, which I can empathize with. Anyway, I'm voting for what I see not what I presume.


I am quite disappointed with this...

Can you at least elaborate on what the holes in the cases where, and why Scott is stronger in your mind?

Both are reliant on single posts here and there with a lot of what feels like meta/tone read in between. In Scott's case it's the questionable posts relevant to DYH, in Stutters' it's the fact that he was hard town read by a noob scum who is prone to make dumb errors. I find it weird that TT made the case then backed off, too.

@Calix: I'm well aware of your Stutters case and I have had him in my scum list for about as long as you have. That doesn't mean Scott isn't the better vote today. In part I think it will be more illuminating on associations, which can't be said for Stutters.


Stutters has been discussed by many players so I disagree on your last point.

That's a gross simplification of the cases against Stutters. Do you still scum-read Stutters or has your read changed?

Who are your current scum-reads anyway? Is there a better case that you want us to focus on? I'm not sure where you stand given recent events.
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