EPTHe was the Miller. Now if there's a Cop, it should be a lot more effective.
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
He was the Miller. Now if there's a Cop, it should be a lot more effective. | ||
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Calix
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Jealous
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Calix
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On October 02 2016 07:04 Jealous wrote: I am starting to lose faith in this town and it's leadership. The Church of Xatalos is accepting new members. Seriously though, complaining won't change anything. It would be great to just hear your reads at least. More than just a list of potential scum. | ||
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Stutters695
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Calix
3379 Posts
From your filter, you only seemed to start scum-reading him at EOD when he turned up. Before that you were saying "He's done XYZ but I think he has a good chance of being town/ my gut tells me he is town" so you'll need to walk me through that one. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
 I'm glad the miller issue has been solved, but it sucks Stutters was a mislynch. I've tried to guide two people I think we're mafia to their deaths and it has failed, so I have little faith in this game anymore of my reads. I need you guys to help me out. I won't want to guide another to lylo. If we don't get a doc save or vet shot, it'll be 5-2 tomorrow. It'll probably be time to think about claiming (DO NOT DO IT BEFORE DAY THOUGH!) I'm going to an American Football party tomorrow, so I'll check in here and there, but do not expect much. Monday shouldn't be too busy (I HOPE) at work. I still do not get TT's 180 though, especially when we had the same reads. | ||
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Jealous
10336 Posts
Hard Town Reads: ptmc, Daneler, Calix. At least one scum between these: Scott, Skynx, Xata. My opinion is if Calix doesn't die tonight, there should be a heavy look at her. I could see a world where she is scum hiding under conftown. I hold no such suspicions of ptmc, but Daneler is a possibility also. Sorry for not being around as much as I'd like, really busy time of the year for people in my profession/position academically. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I really think a Scott/Xata team makes sense. Before you say this is a silly team as they called each other scum in the last phase, take a look at their posts. Scott's posts first started me on this line of thought, and it's why I flipped my read on him and wrote a case, so some of this is found in there. Simply put Scott did jack all with his read on Xata and instead posted bull about Stutters. The logic on Xata's scum read is the same (I'll talk more about it in his individual read). The weak bit here is that Xata was pretty willing to vote Scott in the end, so maybe not... In the chance that I'm totally on the wrong track with those two I really only have some tinfoil on Calix and Jealous to fall back on. It's really just a feeling I haven't looked into the idea much because it seems really out there. Mostly I mention this because this game has evened out, Town only has 2 mislynches before they loose, it's time to revisit townreads if only to find better reason to TR them. Calix - + Show Spoiler + Calix is a newcomer to this site, but is clearly very experienced with mafia. Everything I read her posts I feel like everything is being very carefully considered and weighed. Other than tone though I really only have the early vote on Lunatic D1 to backup this townread. Overall, even with the paranoia and tinfoil I mentioned, I'm pretty sure Calix is town. Pretty much who I expect to die if not me tonight. DanelerH - + Show Spoiler + Light poster, hopefully doesn't turn into another Stutters. I checked some stuff from him earlier and I just got townfeels from everything I saw. Reviewing things now I feel pretty confident he's town. Not only did he push Lunatic early on but the response from Lunatic def doesn't look like he's responding to a teammate. I really don't think he's mafia. ptmc - + Show Spoiler + I'm not sure anyone is even scumreading this guy. For a newcomer his play is highly engaged and impressive. His level of involvement and pushing his own ideas basically almost never comes from newbie scum imo. Jealous - + Show Spoiler + I checked some stuff from him earlier and I just got townfeels from everything I saw. I guess it's mostly tone that has had me townreading Jealous. I've kinda lost the townfeels lately so a filter review is in order here (not sure I've actually done one for Jealous yet). Wow, reading Jealous's filter, I actually really hate it >.< There is very little original or critical thought in his posts, I feel like there is no passion or interest in his scumreads they just go with the flow basically. This guy def deserves some pressure and scrutiny, I really get the feeling he's just sliding by. Looking at his reads I could totally see a Jeal/Xata team, Xata floats around Scum to null in almost all of Jealous' reads and his reads on Xata all feel really weird and forced without any followup. Skynx - + Show Spoiler + Yolo tone read, dude is town. Actually this is probably pretty meta based, I caught Skynx in his first scumgame, he was nowhere near this carefree and conscience as scum. Have a hard time believing his scumgame would improve so much so quickly (no offense). He's town. Xatalos - + Show Spoiler + I decided to give Xata some space yesterday and see what happened. What I saw was him continue to push Skynx despite calling his own case on skynx bad, and despite calling Scott scum made no effort to explain why. When I questioned him about their relative post strength he made the same conclusion I did (Scott looked worse) but did absolutely nothing to go further. In fact he waited till I made my big case on Scott and basically went "Sure, looks good" nothing more about skynx. Contrast this lack of scumhunting to his towncase on Stutters. Plenty of other stuff to discuss here, but that is the strongest thing in my mind right now. scott31337 - + Show Spoiler + I made a big case, I'm not gunna recap that stuff I think it still stands but... I think there is still a chance Scott is town. His reaction to my push feels pretty towny to me. I dislike his last post where he is showing signs of giving up, but I have seen that from town Scott before despite it being a fairly anti-town attitude imo. I'm actually gunna go with the scumteam Lunatic/Jealous/Xata for post game cred here. Reviewing Jealous' filter made this seem really likely. Plus my earlier team of Xata/Scott is kinda weak when you look at how easily Xata was willing to lynch Scott. Xata is my preferred lynch, I've tried a few times now to convince myself he is town but still can't do it. The only staws I can grasp at are his activity and that he was so willing to draw attention to himself with the stutters stuff. Still those fall apart when you look at the actual content, and that Xata spent more time suggesting he had some super-mega great reason to TR stutters (+ Show Spoiler + which he clearly didn't. Hell 2-3 posts after his big towncase he admitted his reasoning in that was weak besides something that had JUST happened + Show Spoiler + PS: Sorry if it's confusing I change my mind a bit as I go, I write and check stuff in a stream of thought so sometimes I end a post thinking something different than I start. Especially with these bigger posts | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
*feels like death is approaching* | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
Day 4 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PZmec0g.jpg) Everyone woke up merrily. Day 4 has begun! You have until Tuesday, Oct 04 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to vote for your preferred lynch. Voting is mandatory and has to be done in the voting thread. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
If there was a Vet you should claim, if Medic just good shit! Don't claim. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Lets get that pressure on Jealous I was talking about. ##Vote: Jealous | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 03 2016 06:59 Tictock wrote: Humm, why wasn't I in that list Jealous? | ||
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Jealous
10336 Posts
Tictock, I didn't include you in any list because I am kinda on the fence about you. On the one hand, I feel you're townie largely due to tone/us having similar ideas, but I can't put you in the conftown group with ptmc/daneler/Calix. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 03 2016 07:07 Jealous wrote: Nice Tictock, I didn't include you in any list because I am kinda on the fence about you. On the one hand, I feel you're townie largely due to tone/us having similar ideas, but I can't put you in the conftown group with ptmc/daneler/Calix. Ok, so who do you think we should lynch today and why? Also why are you more certain about Dane than me? | ||
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Jealous
10336 Posts
On October 03 2016 07:13 Tictock wrote: Ok, so who do you think we should lynch today and why? Also why are you more certain about Dane than me? We have to resolve the Scott/Xata/Skynx situation first. I'd have to look at their filters again to see which one seems most scummy, but if memory serves it's Xata. I think resolving this triangle will point us to the second scum, at least. Dane had some really good posts in D2. I will have a lot more time tomorrow to give specific reads that I've been promising. Sorry about that. Just got home today after being away for 2 days and not having a laptop cable. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
Day 4 Vote Count Jealous (1) Tictock Not Voting (7): scott31337, ptmc, Calix, Skynx, DanelerH, Xatalos, Jealous At the current vote count, Jealous is slated to be lynched. You have to vote here. Voting is mandatory! | ||
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