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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 03 2016 15:25 GMT
#1281
I guess it doesn't matter that Mafia didn't get their shot off...

Dead game anyways.

I'm gunna go find a game that has people playing.
I can take that responsibility.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 03 2016 16:19 GMT
#1282
I'm here Ticky lemme catchup.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 03 2016 17:32 GMT
#1283
TT you are actually 100% town you know.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 03 2016 17:43 GMT
#1284
Yeah this game is actually so dead.

I'm starting to think Jeal/Scott are always tvs. Will try to expand on this later on.
Xata didn't got any better but I think we're past the point where I'm ready to call him top scum anymore based on his shitty push on me.
Not much can be said about ptmc, boy was offski on weekend as he said. The way he went about saying "well, I'm just gona vote stutters and enjoy my weekend off" just tingling me to give him more town points.
Dan has fallen off the face of earth.


This is the point where everyone should re-read Calix I think. Got early town reads D1, never got pressured again. I didn't necessarily liked his Jealous push earlier and yesterday he spent mostly moaning about me n Xata being childish. Most importantly however, he's the top townread of everyone but he never bothers to give "these are my final thoughts in case i get nk'd". He could've been saved last night but he was around eod and never bothered to give reads. He just rather posted random stuff that has nothing to do with anything critical.

On October 02 2016 07:25 Calix wrote:
TT, why do you call Stutters' alignment disappointing?

From your filter, you only seemed to start scum-reading him at EOD when he turned up. Before that you were saying "He's done XYZ but I think he has a good chance of being town/ my gut tells me he is town" so you'll need to walk me through that one.


Like this is such a filler post 20 mins to nk flip. If you're a top town read, give out reads.
Anyway, ppl please read his filter. I'll do so as well and give thoughts later on.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:05 GMT
#1285
Well, that was a nice surprise. I guess the Vet/Doc should claim if being lynched, but not otherwise yet. It's a pretty solid position anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:08 GMT
#1286
Nothing much has changed in regards to potential scum. scott is probably always scum at this point, and the last should be Skynx/Jealous. If not, scum Tictock/Calix has played well. Upcoming blue claims etc. should clear that up anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:11 GMT
#1287
Actually, might it be best to already claim up and solve it once and for all? Let's discuss it before going through with it though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:16 GMT
#1288
I guess it depends on the roles. There's probably no Vig since there hasn't been a shot yet. There's certainly a Doc/Vet. If it's Doc+Vet, not much use to claim, but if there's a Cop, it could be enough to solve the game by now. Well, maybe. I guess it's up to him. There's still a GF but it should be enough to eliminate several possible scumteam combinations from these:

Skynx/scott
Skynx/Jealous
Skynx/Tictock
scott/Tictock
Jealous/Tictock

Leaving us with possibly only one or two possible combinations left.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:17 GMT
#1289
Meh, I forgot DanelerH. He hasn't really done anything lately. And Calix has kind of dropped off. Same with ptmc.

So I guess it's not quite as clear yet..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 03 2016 18:18 GMT
#1290
That post you quoted was right after the lynch Skynx, not right before Daypost.

I do kinda like your point though.

Actually if I were to rate everyone in the game I would say Jealous and Calix have been the most sidelined players.

By that I mean they aren't doing much thats Super towny and they aren't doing anything that raises an eyebrow. Like I stand by what I said about Xata putting so much effort into that Stutters read vs his scumreads, but at the same time that doesn't fit mafia play at all. It just stands out like a sore thumb.
I can take that responsibility.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:20 GMT
#1291
Well, let me know what you guys think. If not, just finally lynch scott with fire. He's somehow slipped through so far. No wonder, I guess.

Slept around 2 hours last night and another early wakeup coming so won't be here for long to discuss.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:26 GMT
#1292
On October 04 2016 03:18 Tictock wrote:
That post you quoted was right after the lynch Skynx, not right before Daypost.

I do kinda like your point though.

Actually if I were to rate everyone in the game I would say Jealous and Calix have been the most sidelined players.

By that I mean they aren't doing much thats Super towny and they aren't doing anything that raises an eyebrow. Like I stand by what I said about Xata putting so much effort into that Stutters read vs his scumreads, but at the same time that doesn't fit mafia play at all. It just stands out like a sore thumb.


It's really hard to solve the game since most people aren't doing enough of anything noteworthy in the game. Myself included, kinda. I'm pretty sure scott is scum now, but with how this game has been, it's getting harder to clear even Dan/Calix for their D1 stuff anymore.. I was quite sure of stutters being town, at least. Too bad he was the one who got lynched even so....

Well, I sure hope you're town or there's not going to be much of town thread presence left at this rate.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 03 2016 18:34 GMT
#1293
Ok so if I just go with yolo gut reads right now.

Skynx and Scott both are that type of player who are not vocal, but they both feel like they are just sharing what they think when they do. Even the stuff I was getting on Scott about with the stutters stuff fits that logic actually, scum!scott is more likley to invent reasons that sound good, town!scott will just post whatever he thinks even if it's kinda shit.

Xata doesn't feel like he's doing much to me, just kinda sitting on a few weak thoughts. However I will admit that he is keeping stuff coming. Like I said before I'm starting to doubt scum!Xata would stick with the stuff with Stutters. On one hand I can WIFOM that he would hard townread Stutters like that as scum, but the way that he went about it doesn't feel like it comes from a scum mindset imo. Still one of my more torn reads (like i said I really do keep trying to see the townieness).

ptmc is almost never mafia, if he is I for one welcome the reign of our new mafia overlords to this site.

That leaves me Jealous and Calix. Nothing particularly towny stood out in my mind looking through Jealous' filter yesterday, in fact having played with town!jealous before I feel like he is incredibly restrained. Calix feels very sidelined since D1, glancing over her posts regarding Stutters there was very little consideration going on, I also dislike the N1 posts about how scum must be in the lurkers and how 100% solid that logic is (that's a bit nitpicky though, it's is likely I just don't like the assertion that it HAS to be true).

The biggest issue I have considering a scum!Calix though is that means that a fairly epic buss happened D1. Otherwise by feels alone I could see Jeal/Calix here.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 03 2016 18:40 GMT
#1294
On October 04 2016 03:11 Xatalos wrote:
Actually, might it be best to already claim up and solve it once and for all? Let's discuss it before going through with it though.


Besides claiming Vet I think the blues should claim as they wish.

Although... a thought does occur if we have a medic and cop the cop could claim their checks and would be for sure able to live one more day. I think it's safe to assume there is a cop? I mean we clearly don't have a vig and it would be kinda OP for town to have medic and vet so...
I can take that responsibility.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:45 GMT
#1295
How is Doc+Vet OP though? I think Doc+Cop is more powerful for example. Cop can claim and live forever etc.

But the problem is if it's just Vet+Cop. Then Cop claiming would be stupid.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 03 2016 18:46 GMT
#1296
On October 04 2016 03:26 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 03:18 Tictock wrote:
That post you quoted was right after the lynch Skynx, not right before Daypost.

I do kinda like your point though.

Actually if I were to rate everyone in the game I would say Jealous and Calix have been the most sidelined players.

By that I mean they aren't doing much thats Super towny and they aren't doing anything that raises an eyebrow. Like I stand by what I said about Xata putting so much effort into that Stutters read vs his scumreads, but at the same time that doesn't fit mafia play at all. It just stands out like a sore thumb.


It's really hard to solve the game since most people aren't doing enough of anything noteworthy in the game. Myself included, kinda. I'm pretty sure scott is scum now, but with how this game has been, it's getting harder to clear even Dan/Calix for their D1 stuff anymore.. I was quite sure of stutters being town, at least. Too bad he was the one who got lynched even so....

Well, I sure hope you're town or there's not going to be much of town thread presence left at this rate.


I'm not sure how much more obv town I can get, and it's a problem imo if I'm the towniest person in the game

Can we play another game?

Comparing Scott and Calix, who's posts have a more cautious constructed nature to them?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 03 2016 18:49 GMT
#1297
Honestly I just think it's a really good thing that we actually take a step back and relook at everyone this game. It's all too easy to get confirm bias and just steamroll through a bunch of lynchbait town.

Case in point, this game.

Besides that kinda atmosphere is so much better for town than scum imo.
I can take that responsibility.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:52 GMT
#1298
On October 04 2016 03:46 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 03:26 Xatalos wrote:
On October 04 2016 03:18 Tictock wrote:
That post you quoted was right after the lynch Skynx, not right before Daypost.

I do kinda like your point though.

Actually if I were to rate everyone in the game I would say Jealous and Calix have been the most sidelined players.

By that I mean they aren't doing much thats Super towny and they aren't doing anything that raises an eyebrow. Like I stand by what I said about Xata putting so much effort into that Stutters read vs his scumreads, but at the same time that doesn't fit mafia play at all. It just stands out like a sore thumb.


It's really hard to solve the game since most people aren't doing enough of anything noteworthy in the game. Myself included, kinda. I'm pretty sure scott is scum now, but with how this game has been, it's getting harder to clear even Dan/Calix for their D1 stuff anymore.. I was quite sure of stutters being town, at least. Too bad he was the one who got lynched even so....

Well, I sure hope you're town or there's not going to be much of town thread presence left at this rate.


I'm not sure how much more obv town I can get, and it's a problem imo if I'm the towniest person in the game

Can we play another game?

Comparing Scott and Calix, who's posts have a more cautious constructed nature to them?


Hm. Calix doesn't seem like he's shared much of his thoughts. Mostly questions. scott has shared, but they've been pretty much safe/sheepish reads (for example, some pretty random/NAI reasons to scumread me after it became fashionable).

I guess you could say Calix would have been more careful in the sense that he hasn't pushed much of anything lately.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 03 2016 18:56 GMT
#1299
On October 04 2016 03:45 Xatalos wrote:
How is Doc+Vet OP though? I think Doc+Cop is more powerful for example. Cop can claim and live forever etc.

But the problem is if it's just Vet+Cop. Then Cop claiming would be stupid.


To roles that stop KP sounds pretty townfavored to me.

Idk I guess this is all moot until we get a claim or a blue flip but with a flipped Miller and scum having a GF I'd bet there is a cop.
I can take that responsibility.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 18:59 GMT
#1300
On October 04 2016 03:56 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 03:45 Xatalos wrote:
How is Doc+Vet OP though? I think Doc+Cop is more powerful for example. Cop can claim and live forever etc.

But the problem is if it's just Vet+Cop. Then Cop claiming would be stupid.


To roles that stop KP sounds pretty townfavored to me.

Idk I guess this is all moot until we get a claim or a blue flip but with a flipped Miller and scum having a GF I'd bet there is a cop.


Wasn't it random though?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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